Bear Grylls Vs. Les Stroud

[Jack Aubrey]

I saw a couple of people saying they didn't like Bear Grylls over in RS so I thought I'd start a poll.

 

Personally I prefer Bear Grylls. Yes, I know Les worked with Rush, but I think Bear's show is better. Les just has a tendency to get a little whiny.

 

 

[Territorial_Game]

Les doesn't have his crew set up scenarios- he goes out and survives. Bear is a beast, but I'd bet the farm that Les could outlast him if you stuck them both out in the middle of nowhere.

[RealAir]

I much prefer the setup of Les' show. I don't like the "Here's one I made earlier" Blue Peter style of Bear's show.

I think, if Bear was to make his show the same format as Les, it would be 110% awesomeness.

[thesweetscience]

One thing I will say for Bear is that he will eat some gross shit. I like Les's show better because it seems more real and less "produced", if that makes any sense.

[Stormtron]

Survivorman

[vaportrail]

Les's shows are fantastic, you definitely learn a lot and he has a good sense of humor.

 

Bear is just a dick, especially the way he kills animals for no other reason to than to take one bite out of them.

[-D-RocK-]

Les is kind of a hometown hero up here in these parts. I believe he and his wife spent some time in the NWT back in the 90s.

[Steevo]

QUOTE (thesweetscience @ Sep 23 2008, 10:03 AM)

One thing I will say for Bear is that he will eat some gross shit.

No shit!! Always a delight to see what new tasties hes gonna down Totally hooked on Bear, regardless of some of the neg commentries on his earlier episodes. Cant say Ive seen much of the other guy here, so I cant really vote. Anyways, up to the Panama experience at the mo. Essential viewing

[Ancient Ways]

We had a thread about this about a year ago. I definitely prefer Les. I respect Bear's experience. Les is alone. He sets up all his own camera equipment which means he walks ahead 100 meteres, sets a camera, walks back, then walks toward the camera just to get these shots. Bear has a crew with him which definitely changes the experience. Les is in much more danger than Bear because of this. A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film.

[PhilCastro]

Bear Grylls is awesome

 

 

I find Les boring to watch...

 

Bear actually entertains me

[gleamingalloyaircar81]

Bear Grylls all the way!

[Sark]

Les for sure!

[Jack Aubrey]

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Sep 22 2008, 08:23 PM)

We had a thread about this about a year ago.  I definitely prefer Les.  I respect Bear's experience.  Les is alone.  He sets up all his own camera equipment which means he walks ahead 100 meteres, sets a camera, walks back, then walks toward the camera just to get these shots.  Bear has a crew with him which definitely changes the experience.  Les is in much more danger than Bear because of this.  A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film.

QUOTE

A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film.

 

The same is true of Les. If you watch the 'Survivorman-Behind the Scenes' special you'll see that for yourself.

 

BTW, I know we've discussed this before, I pretty much did this for the heck of it and I admit to shamelessly seizing on a topic I saw in another forum to increase traffic in this one!

 

I think my own personal reason for preferring Bear over Les is because Bear just seems more personable. Les comes off as a bit dour and moody. Also, I don't mean to take away from Les' accomplishments, but Bear's are more impressive. He was British SAS, where he survived a helicopter crash and recovered from severe spinal damage and went on to be, until a couple of years ago, the youngest man to have climbed Mt. Everest. Then he crossed the Arctic Ocean in an open boat and went through the French Foreign Legion's boot camp, which is widely recognized as the toughest in the world. Bear also holds the paramotoring altitude record. While I respect Les Stroud, I have more respect for Bear Grylls.

 

Edit: I also enjoyed Bear's book Man Vs. Wild: Survival Techniques From The Most Dangerous Places On Earth. It's one of the best survival manuals I've ever read.

Edited September 23, 2008 by Jack Aubrey

[King Troll]

Bear Grylls is a pussy.

I don't know Les Stroud. I understand he's Canadian - meeow.

 

Ray Mears Rules them both

[steelcaressed]

Les is fun to watch.

Bear makes me cringe. And I love it.

 

Go ahead Bear, eat another scorpion, gut another camel.

 

 

[Jack Aubrey]

QUOTE (King Troll @ Sep 23 2008, 11:35 AM)

Bear Grylls is a pussy. I don't know Les Stroud. I understand he's Canadian - meeow. Ray Mears Rules them both

Yes, Mears is very cool. I still need to read Bushcraft. But aren't you being a bit harsh towards Grylls and Stroud?

 

[steelcaressed]

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Sep 23 2008, 11:52 AM)

QUOTE (King Troll @ Sep 23 2008, 11:35 AM) Bear Grylls is a pussy. I don't know Les Stroud. I understand he's Canadian - meeow. Ray Mears Rules them both Yes, Mears is very cool. I still need to read Bushcraft. But aren't you being a bit harsh towards Grylls and Stroud? The next time he thinks before he types will be the first.

[Jack Aubrey]

QUOTE (steelcaressed @ Sep 23 2008, 11:57 AM)

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Sep 23 2008, 11:52 AM) QUOTE (King Troll @ Sep 23 2008, 11:35 AM) Bear Grylls is a pussy. I don't know Les Stroud. I understand he's Canadian - meeow. Ray Mears Rules them both Yes, Mears is very cool. I still need to read Bushcraft. But aren't you being a bit harsh towards Grylls and Stroud? The next time he thinks before he types will be the first.

[Snowman]

QUOTE (Steevo @ Sep 22 2008, 06:16 PM)

QUOTE (thesweetscience @ Sep 23 2008, 10:03 AM) One thing I will say for Bear is that he will eat some gross shit.  No shit!! Always a delight to see what new tasties hes gonna down Totally hooked on Bear, regardless of some of the neg commentries on his earlier episodes. Cant say Ive seen much of the other guy here, so I cant really vote. Anyways, up to the Panama experience at the mo. Essential viewing I once saw him sqeeze and drink liquid from the guts out of a recently dead cows stomach. He eats and drinks all kinds of shit.   I think it is more action with the Bear Grylls show. I like to watch both, but I am going to vote for BG.

[obamamama]

BEAR!!!!!

 

 

"I've got to find sheltah!!"

 

 

He's so much more entertaining and I like his personality!!

 

mmmmmmmmmm turd juice!!

 

[ILSnwdog]

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Sep 23 2008, 08:32 AM)

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Sep 22 2008, 08:23 PM) We had a thread about this about a year ago.  I definitely prefer Les.  I respect Bear's experience.  Les is alone.  He sets up all his own camera equipment which means he walks ahead 100 meteres, sets a camera, walks back, then walks toward the camera just to get these shots.  Bear has a crew with him which definitely changes the experience.  Les is in much more danger than Bear because of this.  A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film. QUOTE A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film.   The same is true of Les. If you watch the 'Survivorman-Behind the Scenes' special you'll see that for yourself.   BTW, I know we've discussed this before, I pretty much did this for the heck of it and I admit to shamelessly seizing on a topic I saw in another forum to increase traffic in this one!   I think my own personal reason for preferring Bear over Les is because Bear just seems more personable. Les comes off as a bit dour and moody. Also, I don't mean to take away from Les' accomplishments, but Bear's are more impressive. He was British SAS, where he survived a helicopter crash and recovered from severe spinal damage and went on to be, until a couple of years ago, the youngest man to have climbed Mt. Everest. Then he crossed the Arctic Ocean in an open boat and went through the French Foreign Legion's boot camp, which is widely recognized as the toughest in the world. Bear also holds the paramotoring altitude record. While I respect Les Stroud, I have more respect for Bear Grylls.   Edit: I also enjoyed Bear's book Man Vs. Wild: Survival Techniques From The Most Dangerous Places On Earth. It's one of the best survival manuals I've ever read. Try not eating for 5 days and see how moody you get!   Survivorman is my favorite show on Discovery Channel. Bear gets on my nerves because he is so over the top. His show is so contrived. I'd much rather watch Les. Plus, I love Les' dry sense of humor, and respect that he goes it alone.

[hunter]

QUOTE (ILSnwdog @ Sep 23 2008, 10:28 AM)

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Sep 23 2008, 08:32 AM) QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Sep 22 2008, 08:23 PM) We had a thread about this about a year ago.  I definitely prefer Les.  I respect Bear's experience.  Les is alone.  He sets up all his own camera equipment which means he walks ahead 100 meteres, sets a camera, walks back, then walks toward the camera just to get these shots.  Bear has a crew with him which definitely changes the experience.  Les is in much more danger than Bear because of this.  A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film. QUOTE A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film.   The same is true of Les. If you watch the 'Survivorman-Behind the Scenes' special you'll see that for yourself.   BTW, I know we've discussed this before, I pretty much did this for the heck of it and I admit to shamelessly seizing on a topic I saw in another forum to increase traffic in this one!   I think my own personal reason for preferring Bear over Les is because Bear just seems more personable. Les comes off as a bit dour and moody. Also, I don't mean to take away from Les' accomplishments, but Bear's are more impressive. He was British SAS, where he survived a helicopter crash and recovered from severe spinal damage and went on to be, until a couple of years ago, the youngest man to have climbed Mt. Everest. Then he crossed the Arctic Ocean in an open boat and went through the French Foreign Legion's boot camp, which is widely recognized as the toughest in the world. Bear also holds the paramotoring altitude record. While I respect Les Stroud, I have more respect for Bear Grylls.   Edit: I also enjoyed Bear's book Man Vs. Wild: Survival Techniques From The Most Dangerous Places On Earth. It's one of the best survival manuals I've ever read. Try not eating for 5 days and see how moody you get!   Survivorman is my favorite show on Discovery Channel. Bear gets on my nerves because he is so over the top. His show is so contrived. I'd much rather watch Les. Plus, I love Les' dry sense of humor, and respect that he goes it alone. Bear belongs on Fear Factor and nothing else.

[Ancient Ways]

Here is an example of why I prefer Les. Bear, instead of walking around the water in a very cold climate, took his clothes off and jumped in near freezing water and swam to the other side. He reasoned that he could "see material to start a fire with on the other side." This is a terrible idea that you would never do in reality.

 

I do respect Bear's accomplishments and he is more personable. The Legion series was awesome. He went through it with former Legion officers and enlisted as instructors with random dudes that signed on to train. He ended up basicaly being an extra trainer and was obviously up to the challenge. Pure survival and military training are generally different with different goals.

[Jack Aubrey]

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Sep 23 2008, 04:21 PM)

Here is an example of why I prefer Les.  Bear, instead of walking around the water in a very cold climate, took his clothes off and jumped in near freezing water and swam to the other side.  He reasoned that he could "see material to start a fire with on the other side."  This is a terrible idea that you would never do in reality. I do respect Bear's accomplishments and he is more personable.  The Legion series was awesome.  He went through it with former Legion officers and enlisted as instructors with random dudes that signed on to train.  He ended up basicaly being an extra trainer and was obviously up to the challenge.  Pure survival and military training are generally different with different goals.

Damn! I didn't think of it that way! Ok, ok, I concede the point...grudgingly. (Just kidding ).

 

Edit: if I were desperate enough to find firewood I would at least consider swimming across a cold river, but the area I was in would have to be absolutely barren for a good 10 square miles and there was no way to get around the water or shallow places to ford it.

 

Edited September 23, 2008 by Jack Aubrey

[workingcinderellaman]

QUOTE (hunter @ Sep 23 2008, 01:50 PM)

QUOTE (ILSnwdog @ Sep 23 2008, 10:28 AM) QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Sep 23 2008, 08:32 AM) QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Sep 22 2008, 08:23 PM) We had a thread about this about a year ago.  I definitely prefer Les.  I respect Bear's experience.  Les is alone.  He sets up all his own camera equipment which means he walks ahead 100 meteres, sets a camera, walks back, then walks toward the camera just to get these shots.  Bear has a crew with him which definitely changes the experience.  Les is in much more danger than Bear because of this.  A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film. QUOTE A lot of the stuff Bear seems to just know he actually learns from locals right before they film.   The same is true of Les. If you watch the 'Survivorman-Behind the Scenes' special you'll see that for yourself.   BTW, I know we've discussed this before, I pretty much did this for the heck of it and I admit to shamelessly seizing on a topic I saw in another forum to increase traffic in this one!   I think my own personal reason for preferring Bear over Les is because Bear just seems more personable. Les comes off as a bit dour and moody. Also, I don't mean to take away from Les' accomplishments, but Bear's are more impressive. He was British SAS, where he survived a helicopter crash and recovered from severe spinal damage and went on to be, until a couple of years ago, the youngest man to have climbed Mt. Everest. Then he crossed the Arctic Ocean in an open boat and went through the French Foreign Legion's boot camp, which is widely recognized as the toughest in the world. Bear also holds the paramotoring altitude record. While I respect Les Stroud, I have more respect for Bear Grylls.   Edit: I also enjoyed Bear's book Man Vs. Wild: Survival Techniques From The Most Dangerous Places On Earth. It's one of the best survival manuals I've ever read. Try not eating for 5 days and see how moody you get!   Survivorman is my favorite show on Discovery Channel. Bear gets on my nerves because he is so over the top. His show is so contrived. I'd much rather watch Les. Plus, I love Les' dry sense of humor, and respect that he goes it alone. Bear belongs on Fear Factor and nothing else.