ReflectedLight Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 no way i'm wasting money on these guys. it's just not a must see show for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 I've pretty much had the album on CONSTANT spin in my car the past two weeks. Can't wait for the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 If I could make it 1981 again I would go see Van Halen. I still listen to them on my Ipod all the time, but in 2012, Dave is completely shot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwOIDmL_Yw...layer_embedded#! If someone can tell me different after viewing this video link, I'd love to hear otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Tick @ Feb 20 2012, 07:44 AM) If I could make it 1981 again I would go see Van Halen. I still listen to them on my Ipod all the time, but in 2012, Dave is completely shot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwOIDmL_Yw...layer_embedded#! If someone can tell me different after viewing this video link, I'd love to hear otherwise. The new album is great IMO, but I'm.having issues with the live clips I've seen....roths microphone head set is embarrassing to see..part of the greatness of van halen was the energetic live show...and Dave and Eddie have clearly slowed down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) I'm not bothered by a headset....any more than I am by the clothes he chooses to wear. Sammy used one on the 5150 tour as well, although I realize he played guitar. It frees up his hands. That's just about posturing. To me they sound no different than in '07. Roth has NEVER sounded good live...even in '82, where when drunk he'd sing about every fourth word on a good night. I'm not making excuses either....but you go see VH live for the energy. Go watch the US Festival in '83. Now THAT is a fecking embarrassment. Band in its prime too f*cked up to know right from left on what was their biggest show to date. Only the sammy years really impressed me LIVE as far as overall playing went. Still I had a great time in the moment of that 07 show and I doubt it'll be different now. As far as bands slowing down, that's about everyone. I love RUSH to death, but you sure can't say that they play at the same tempo these days. Rush has the proficiency but plays with little eagerness or engergy compared to, say, 1981 themselves. That's my biggest complaint about Rush live albums is that they sound like you're playing a 78 RPM disc on 45. (see Limelight 30 years ago vs now). Not trying to throw Rush under the bus or compare them to VH (so don't go off on me saying VH is better than Rush live)....just that tempo suffers as bands get older, almost without exception. Edited February 20, 2012 by Presto-digitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 09:04 AM) I'm not bothered by a headset....any more than I am by the clothes he chooses to wear. Sammy used one on the 5150 tour as well, although I realize he played guitar. It frees up his hands. That's just about posturing. To me they sound no different than in '07. Roth has NEVER sounded good live...even in '82, where when drunk he'd sing about every fourth word on a good night. I'm not making excuses either....but you go see VH live for the energy. Go watch the US Festival in '83. Now THAT is a fecking embarrassment. Band in its prime too f*cked up to know right from left on what was their biggest show to date. Only the sammy years really impressed me LIVE as far as overall playing went. Still I had a great time in the moment of that 07 show and I doubt it'll be different now. As far as bands slowing down, that's about everyone. I love RUSH to death, but you sure can't say that they play at the same tempo these days. Rush has the proficiency but plays with little eagerness or engergy compared to, say, 1981 themselves. That's my biggest complaint about Rush live albums is that they sound like you're playing a 78 RPM disc on 45. (see Limelight 30 years ago vs now). Not trying to throw Rush under the bus or compare them to VH (so don't go off on me saying VH is better than Rush live)....just that tempo suffers as bands get older, almost without exception. Its just hard for me to watch David Lee Roth in his current state. I remember the high flying stud that commanded the stage. Now he has these awkward goofy stage moves that are uncomfortable to watch. I would go to a show if given a ticket, for sure to judge for myself, but to fork up big bucks for them now. Nope. Edited February 20, 2012 by Tick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Well that's fair. If it's not for you then it's not for you. Concerts are far too expensive to go see bands you're not eager to see, so I can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unattractive Truth Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Roth sounds like he always does. He doesn't follow the melody, he's flat, he falls behind...this is nothing new. I saw him in 1986 at it sounded exactly the same. The vocals are rough, but there's so much more going on. I personally can't wait to see them live. It's not going to be technical triumph, but a damn good time will be had by all, I'm sure. I wish they were doing more from the new album. You don't get to say that too much anymore.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Indeed that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 What would you folks select as a second single, just for shits and giggles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRushed Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 03:40 PM) What would you folks select as a second single, just for shits and giggles? "Blood and Fire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 08:04 AM) I'm not bothered by a headset....any more than I am by the clothes he chooses to wear. Sammy used one on the 5150 tour as well, although I realize he played guitar. It frees up his hands. That's just about posturing. To me they sound no different than in '07. Roth has NEVER sounded good live...even in '82, where when drunk he'd sing about every fourth word on a good night. I'm not making excuses either....but you go see VH live for the energy. Go watch the US Festival in '83. Now THAT is a fecking embarrassment. Band in its prime too f*cked up to know right from left on what was their biggest show to date. Only the sammy years really impressed me LIVE as far as overall playing went. Still I had a great time in the moment of that 07 show and I doubt it'll be different now. As far as bands slowing down, that's about everyone. I love RUSH to death, but you sure can't say that they play at the same tempo these days. Rush has the proficiency but plays with little eagerness or engergy compared to, say, 1981 themselves. That's my biggest complaint about Rush live albums is that they sound like you're playing a 78 RPM disc on 45. (see Limelight 30 years ago vs now). Not trying to throw Rush under the bus or compare them to VH (so don't go off on me saying VH is better than Rush live)....just that tempo suffers as bands get older, almost without exception. By slowing down, I meant in their stage performance. I realize Eddie had hip issues, and I don't fault them for age taking its toll, but the problem with bands like van halen, unlike Rush, is that the stage performance was just as important as the tunes....and its clear that aspect of the band isn't much there anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 QUOTE (ReRushed @ Feb 20 2012, 04:18 PM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 03:40 PM) What would you folks select as a second single, just for shits and giggles? "Blood and Fire" Good call. Mine would either be that one or Big River. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchance to Dream Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 03:25 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Feb 20 2012, 04:18 PM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 03:40 PM) What would you folks select as a second single, just for shits and giggles? "Blood and Fire" Good call. Mine would either be that one or Big River. I heard Big River on my local FM Classic Rock station so perhaps that is indeed the new single. When the song was over the DJ said, "That's more like it!" As far as the concert goes: I can't wait! I won't be standing there wondering if so and so will hit that 16th note just like in the studio. This one is all about having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredtamasrule Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I've heard that the sound at the concert in Louisville wasn't great so VH may have had system problems bugs to work out or either the Yum Center has bad acoustics...which I know doesn't because Rush sounded awesome there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) SPOILER Enjoyed hearing this one resurrected: Outta Love Again Edited February 21, 2012 by Presto-digitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Saw this yesterday, great stuff. I am on board with the Lose the Headset crowd. Very weird for me to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Reminds me, ironically, of Sammy Hagar on the 5150 tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unattractive Truth Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 03:25 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Feb 20 2012, 04:18 PM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 20 2012, 03:40 PM) What would you folks select as a second single, just for shits and giggles? "Blood and Fire" Good call. Mine would either be that one or Big River. How about You and Your Blues? It's radio friendly, and has that classic VH sound... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (metaldad @ Feb 21 2012, 09:42 AM) Saw this yesterday, great stuff. I am on board with the Lose the Headset crowd. Very weird for me to see He looks like some cheesy motivational speaker with the headset on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielmclark Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 21 2012, 08:00 AM) Reminds me, ironically, of Sammy Hagar on the 5150 tour. But Sammy had the excuse that he needed to play guitar. Still not a necessity, but at least understandable. Roth just looks like he's constantly trying to figure out what to do with his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii324/jawkjaw/double%20s%20pro/wolfgang-van-halen-celebrities-arriving-beso-DD9pE41-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (danielmclark @ Feb 21 2012, 09:35 AM) QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 21 2012, 08:00 AM) Reminds me, ironically, of Sammy Hagar on the 5150 tour. But Sammy had the excuse that he needed to play guitar. Still not a necessity, but at least understandable. Roth just looks like he's constantly trying to figure out what to do with his hands. Sure, that's true. It's an odd look for rock, granted. I don't mind it. It doesn't make him sing any better or worse. We should all still be more put off by what he wears than the style of mic he uses. At least he doesn't still deem the chaps (and nothing underneath) or the platinum blonde wig a worthy look. Yowza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Edward looks like he's the host of Blues Clues for shit sake with the horizontal stripe thing going on. http://cdn.static.ovimg.com/episode/199086.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metaldad Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Feb 21 2012, 09:44 AM) Edward looks like he's the host of Blues Clues for shit sake with the horizontal stripe thing going on. http://cdn.static.ovimg.com/episode/199086.jpg It worked in 1981, not so much now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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