Slime Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Let us imagine the following scenario. You know some dude or lady (for the sake of argument, I call them Slimebaby). Let's say Slimebaby knows WHO Rush is and has heard plenty of the heavily rotated hits on the radio (Tom Sawyer, Limelight, TSOR and the like). Slimebaby, rather than being blown away at the pure genius that is Rush is simply NOT impressed or worse he HATES this band every time he hears them. The task for y'all is: Pick anywhere between THREE and FIVE songs that you feel would change their mind about DA BAND. Which three to five songs would give the best hope of having Slimebaby either investigate the band further or convert them to fans on the spot. Pick your songs! My initial picks would be: The Enemy Within, Red Sector A, Leave that Thing Alone, Driven, Entre Nous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Play them some nickelback because the are probably too dumb to like Rush!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finbar Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 2112. The album. It worked once, and if it doesn't work again, I don't know what will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcaressed Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 It's not necessary to win anybody over to the cause...there is no cause. There's really no point in the distribution of enlightenment to the ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangheili Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 QUOTE (steelcaressed @ Jan 3 2007, 10:33 PM) It's not necessary to win anybody over to the cause...there is no cause. There's really no point in the distribution of enlightenment to the ignorant. Definately the full album of 2112. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Give 'em the commercially friendly, slick stuff: "Subdivisions" and "New World Man". Oh, and "The Pass", "Available Light", and "Bravado" are good choices too. They've worked for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 It depends entirely on the individual's personal tastes. If they like.... Classic Hard Rock/Metal: Maybe something off 2112, or even FBN Powerful but mainstream Rock: SoR, Red Barchetta Prog: Hemispheres, Xanadu Jazz: Where's my Thing 80's music: Big Money, Kid Gloves, Subdivisions Pop: New World Man, Time Stand Still Modern Heavy Rock: Something off VT. Disco: The Weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Baby Dragon Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 These aren't in any specific order. New World Man: I'm not sure if it counts- while it is probably one of Rush's best-known songs, I've never heard it on the radio. I consider it Rush's most accessible song. I don't mean that in a bad way, either- it's my favorite song on Signals. YYZ: It's kinda well-known, but it doesn't really get radio play. People who hate Rush (not that Slimebaby does) still always "respect" this song. The Color Of Right: A criminally underappreciated song that I consider the most "personal" track on Test For Echo. Dreamline: Everyone mostly agrees that it's a great song, and it doesn't really have anything wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthshine Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Tom Sawyer Spirit Of Radio Limelight Color Of Right One Little Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 The Camera Eye Natural Science Xanadu Cygnus X-1 Book 11 Jacob's Ladder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 QUOTE (steelcaressed @ Jan 3 2007, 10:33 PM) There's really no point in the distribution of enlightenment to the ignorant. I may have to borrow that line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 We could borrow a page from the middle ages and force others to listen to Rush and proclaim them the best band ever or face death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcaressed Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (Maddy @ Jan 4 2007, 08:03 AM) QUOTE (steelcaressed @ Jan 3 2007, 10:33 PM) There's really no point in the distribution of enlightenment to the ignorant. I may have to borrow that line. It's all yours. I've long since given up trying to make other people get it. It's like licorice...those who like it really like it...those who don't, hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I feel proud of myself. In the course of the past year, I have successfully gotten no less than four people at least partially into Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roddy Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (Kudzu @ Jan 4 2007, 09:46 PM) I feel proud of myself. In the course of the past year, I have successfully gotten no less than four people at least partially into Rush. A fine effort. That's more than I've done in 25 years. And I've tried! But then, I live in Australia, where bands like Wolfmother get huge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udanax Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (Roddy @ Jan 3 2007, 11:23 PM)It depends entirely on the individual's personal tastes. If they like.... Classic Hard Rock/Metal: Maybe something off 2112, or even FBN Powerful but mainstream Rock: SoR, Red Barchetta Prog: Hemispheres, Xanadu Jazz: Where's my Thing 80's music: Big Money, Kid Gloves, Subdivisions Pop: New World Man, Time Stand Still Modern Heavy Rock: Something off VT. Disco: The Weapon Rap: Roll the Bones Reggae: The Spirit of the Radio/New World Man Folk Music: Resist (acoustic) Opera: Just play one of the songs where Geddy hits some really HIGH notes Any genre we didnt cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudzu Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Moving Pictures, Signals, and Presto are obviously the most accessible Rush albums (and, IMO, are among the very best; my third-favorite, Grace Under Pressure, is not nearly as accessible to first- or even second-time listeners). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDDAP Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I know many people who have "heard the bigger hits" (which means listened to them once because I forced them too but not really payed attention) but already know that they aren't going to like them because they're "old and therefore not cool". Then they go back to their rap and punk rock. The girls I know are such losers. <_< Anyhow, it would definitely depend on what they're into. If they're more of a metal fan, something like 2112, Bastille Day, or Earthshine could work. If they like rap, Roll The Bones. If they're into a more modern alternative sound, maybe stuff off Counterparts or Test For Echo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDL2112 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (thesweetscience @ Jan 3 2007, 07:25 PM) Play them some nickelback because the are probably too dumb to like Rush!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian Hunter Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (Kudzu @ Jan 5 2007, 06:28 AM) Moving Pictures, Signals, and Presto are obviously the most accessible Rush albums (and, IMO, are among the very best; my third-favorite, Grace Under Pressure, is not nearly as accessible to first- or even second-time listeners). I'll agree with you on the first two, but Presto? If some die-hard Rush fans can't stand it, i doubt new listeners will like it. GUP would be a great one to introduce people too. Or Signals. They way music's going over here in Britain, those two would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huck Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (Mandalorian Hunter @ Jan 5 2007, 04:33 PM) QUOTE (Kudzu @ Jan 5 2007, 06:28 AM) Moving Pictures, Signals, and Presto are obviously the most accessible Rush albums (and, IMO, are among the very best; my third-favorite, Grace Under Pressure, is not nearly as accessible to first- or even second-time listeners). I'll agree with you on the first two, but Presto? If some die-hard Rush fans can't stand it, i doubt new listeners will like it. GUP would be a great one to introduce people too. Or Signals. They way music's going over here in Britain, those two would be great. I concur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fridge Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Seriously, why are you so concerned whether your friend/partner/girlfriend/wife/whatever is interested in Rush or not? I honestly can't remember the last time I mentioned them in casual conversation to anyone but my band mates (who needless to say, aint interested, but lets face it, Rush and pub covers bands are kind of mutually exclusive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (thesweetscience @ Jan 3 2007, 07:25 PM) Play them some nickelback because the are probably too dumb to like Rush!! Actually, you make a very salient point here. I think the case for a lot of groups is people tend to judge them by their big hits, and they really lose out on what the band is really all about when they do that. Rush is different. Their biggest hist for me are really right up there among their best songs. If people listen to the radio and they hear the usual crop of Rush songs that get played: Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Spirit of Radio, Freewill, Subdivisions, Closer to the Heart, etc., and they don't like them, I think the chances of them becoming big fans are very slim, because those are great representations of their best work. Sure, you won't hear long brilliant tacks like 2112, La Villa Strangiato, Xanadu and others on the radio, but I doubt that would convert people over who don't like their more commercially successful songs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 QUOTE (Fridge @ Jan 5 2007, 11:50 AM) Seriously, why are you so concerned whether your friend/partner/girlfriend/wife/whatever is interested in Rush or not? I honestly can't remember the last time I mentioned them in casual conversation to anyone but my band mates (who needless to say, aint interested, but lets face it, Rush and pub covers bands are kind of mutually exclusive) Yeah, most people just aren't gonna dig them no matter what. I've been with my wife over 7 years, and she's heard me play Rush until her ears bleed, and she'll never be more than a very casual fan who would never go out of her way to listen to Rush on her own. I still think it's worth trying to convert people who are unfamiliar with them, but I think people are either gonna have a presisposition towards liking them or not based on their innate tastes, and if after a few tries they don't get, they're not likely to ever get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slime Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Lemme clear up a thing or two here 1) I'm not actively looking to convert anybody to Rushism. I'm simply asking a what if question here. Fantasy scenario, alternative history or whatever you want to call it. IF somebody asks me about Rush and suggestions for what to listen to, I've got a good enough idea of what I'd tell them. But I'm not preaching this on the streets. 2) Insulting the intelligence of people who dislike Rush is, first and foremost, pretty damn lame. I hate seeing it PLUS it doesn't say anything about the quality of Rush's music. The point of this exercise was, and shall remain, as I have stated it. Simply picture a scenario wherein Slimebaby has heard Rush's radio hits and does not like them. THEN suppose he were willing to give them a chance. That's where your imaginations come in: what non-radio staples would you suggest for them to listen to in order for them to change their mind or investigate further. And now back to our regularly scheduled thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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