Texas King Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich. And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers. The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer? So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I can't pretend I know enough about buddy rich to even make a choice so I'll defer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Apparently Buddy Rich had perfected his double-stroke paradiddle rolls ... at 4 years old ! Neil gets my vote. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 This is a obvious reason why is Rich (who is in his 60s in this video) SUPERIOR to Neil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Any poll pitting any drummer against Buddy Rich isn't fair, regardless of style or genre. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9esWG6A6g-k This is a obvious reason why is Rich (who is in his 60s in this video) SUPERIOR to Neil. That YouTube clip didn't work for me. It said it wasn't available in this country (U.S.). Texas King, where are you from? This one should work for those who can't play the original: http://youtu.be/738sdgMNfrA (EDIT: I just realized that the above video is a joke. It's part of a series of "SHREDS" clips where audio of very bad playing is dubbed onto a performance video. I can't seem to find the legit version of this drum solo.) Edited December 13, 2016 by 1-0-0-1-0-0-1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super25Smasher Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Neil Peart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. Edited December 12, 2016 by GotNeilPeart? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas King Posted December 12, 2016 Author Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Edited December 12, 2016 by Texas King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permanent-Rush Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one? No one can replace Neil as my fav drummer of all time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthemic Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers. The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject. this is a completely ridiculous expectation. no one can state absolutely who is a "better" drummer, only who THEY, PERSONALLY think is better, i.e., prefer! there are no valid objective standards for determining who is BETTER, only different ways to parse the question, none of which will produce an absolute answer but only a set of preferences. especially considering that pretty much everything about the contexts in which neil peart played and buddy rich played were completely different, from the size of their kits to the styles of music they played to the musicians they played with. pretty much the only thing they have in common in any objective sense is that they both hit things with sticks. :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. So then how your vote can be accurate if you didn't listen the other one? no vote is going to be "accurate!" for the reasons i stated above. your search for absolutes in subjective matters such as musical performance are doomed to frustration. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YYZumbi Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 In terms of techical abilities who is a superior drummer?My opinion that is Buddy Rich and it's kind of NO BRAINER for me. I prefer Peart's drumming(he is my second fave rock drummer), but techically he cannot surpass Rich.And in general jazz drummers are easily superior to rock drummers. The question is not which drummer you prefer, than who is a better drummer?So I expect that you will not be biased on this subject. Buddy is a good drummer. Ive seen a few things with him. He is like the Jedi Master while Neil is the apprentice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 :Neil: I have not heard Buddy rich at all,so the vote is easy. Neil would tell you to listen to some Buddy Rich records. :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscanobarga Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm not a drummer so can't comment on technical ability. I'm not familiar with Buddy's music. I find most drum solos boring. So Neil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ed does a good job, gotta give him credit for even getting in the ring ... And while I feel it is not fair to compare musicians like this, it is fun, nonetheless I think Neil would be the first to admit that he'd probably be out of his league here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) What is with all the dumb comparison threads lately? And for those of you unfamiliar with Buddy... Maybe you should familiarize yourself with him.Here, let Neil Peart give you a tour:http://youtu.be/qfO9NHIH7MY Edited December 12, 2016 by Mr. Not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaportrailer Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Buddy Rich is a drumming freak. (Papa Jo Jones too) Buddy Rich is actually more musical than some people would think, and is a tasteful and swinging accompanist (check out his work with various vocalists).He also did some recording with Ravi Shankar, and the results were pretty decent. Neil is a very good rock drummer, whose strength seemed to lie in coming up with interesting drum arrangements for the songs. Who's better than Buddy Rich? Maybe Joe Morello in terms of technique, but that's about it. A very short list indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaportrailer Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm not a drummer so can't comment on technical ability. I'm not familiar with Buddy's music. I find most drum solos boring. So Neil. I'm a drummer who finds drum solos boring. So Buddy.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toscanobarga Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If i had just listened to an audio of that Tonight show drum battle I'd have no idea which one was Buddy or which one was "better" or whether or not Neil could match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Joe Morello, really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disembodied Spirit Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I don't know much about drumming training but I am certain Ricki Rockett of Poison never had 1 lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaportrailer Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) Joe Morello, really? Oh yes! What he could do was scary.Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Rondo Ala Turk, Unsquare Dance etc). The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper. Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it. Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested. Edited December 12, 2016 by vaportrailer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 This thread was doomed to failure before it even started. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Joe Morello, really? Oh yes! What he could do was scary. Speed, technique, musicality - Joe had it all, plus he did some great work with odd-times, and making them sound musical (Take 5, Blue Ronda Alla Turk, Unsquare Dance etc). The cool thing about Joe was that he wasn't a show-off, so no stick twirling, but he could play some stupidly amazing things, and look as relaxed as if he was reading the paper. Unbelievable technique. Then again, he studied and worked hard at it. Morello also wrote a couple of very challenging technical exercise books (Master Studies I and II), for those who might be interested. Take Five is a classic, and I love a lot of Brubeck...but never really paid attention to the drumming as a standout feature of that band. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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