All right. I'm calling some of you guys out . . .

[Rick N. Backer]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

 

I dont think Moving Pictures is their best work, I think Hemispheres or PW is. CA is difficult to compare because its more of a concept album (personally not a big fan of CA). You could make an arguement that lyrically CA is superior, and that the concept aspect makes it "better"

 

Its very apparent that Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves are in a different class than Test for Echo or Roll the Bones. People may like RTB or TFE better, which is fine, but id really like to hear a decent arguement as to why they are better albums

 

Don't hold your breath Tex.

[Narps]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

 

I dont think Moving Pictures is their best work, I think Hemispheres or PW is. CA is difficult to compare because its more of a concept album (personally not a big fan of CA). You could make an arguement that lyrically CA is superior, and that the concept aspect makes it "better"

 

Its very apparent that Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves are in a different class than Test for Echo or Roll the Bones. People may like RTB or TFE better, which is fine, but id really like to hear a decent arguement as to why they are better albums

 

Don't hold your breath Tex.

Seems an impossible task unless you just make sh*t up...

[Tuesday's Gone]

I do believe however that it is possible that Caress Of Steel could be ones favorite i.e. LedRush...

 

No chance Narp. We're all fans, so we can listen to it and enjoy the experience. To say it is the apex of their creativity and performance? Cut it out.

I mean that it could be ones "favorite". Everyone knows AFTK is definitively their best work... :)

 

Meh, AFTK needs more cowbell.

[Narps]

I do believe however that it is possible that Caress Of Steel could be ones favorite i.e. LedRush...

 

No chance Narp. We're all fans, so we can listen to it and enjoy the experience. To say it is the apex of their creativity and performance? Cut it out.

I mean that it could be ones "favorite". Everyone knows AFTK is definitively their best work... :)

 

Meh, AFTK needs more cowbell.

Listen to In The Mood for it if you really need that... :)

[Narps]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

May I ask how old you are or at least when you became a fan? Its just for a survey I am doing for a book I am writing regarding this forum and Rush fandom in general... :)

...

[Rick N. Backer]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

[Attttui]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

May I ask how old you are or at least when you became a fan? Its just for a survey I am doing for a book I am writing regarding this forum and Rush fandom in general... :)

...

 

I was maybe 14 or 15 when I became a fan (I'm 18)

[Narps]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

Amen. The "margin of error" . Made my day. Margin of error defined as 76'-84' or 2112-Grace Under Pressure I am guessing... :)

[Tombstone Mountain]

if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

You're right, I'm taking Clockwork Angels. Gimme metal

[Narps]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

May I ask how old you are or at least when you became a fan? Its just for a survey I am doing for a book I am writing regarding this forum and Rush fandom in general... :)

...

 

I was maybe 14 or 15 when I became a fan (I'm 18)

:dweez: Thought so. Thanks much... :cheers:

[bluefox4000]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

 

lol.......you might let 4 go by.......Well i MIGHT not need your list approval :P :D

 

Mick

[Attttui]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

May I ask how old you are or at least when you became a fan? Its just for a survey I am doing for a book I am writing regarding this forum and Rush fandom in general... :)

...

 

I was maybe 14 or 15 when I became a fan (I'm 18)

:dweez: Thought so. Thanks much... :cheers:

 

Though A Farewell to Kings is a close second for me!

[apetersvt]

. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

I think Caress Of Steel would be it for me. That or Hemispheres. But since Hemispheres is shorter, pretty sure it would be COS.

[Narps]

I've been reading quite a few of the posts in topics like "Rank the Rush Albums" or "What is the Most Underrated Album" recently. Let's stipulate that music is subjective, so every one has and is entitled to their own opinion about what they like and why. Some people love Signals (I do) while others do not. Some people love Hold Your Fire while others do not (like me).

 

But . . .

 

I've seen more than a few folks suggest that their favorite Rush album of all time is Hold Your Fire. Or Caress of Steel. In a similar vein, I've seen people place Test For Echo higher than Moving Pictures in a ranking of the band's discography. I get it. "Real fans" love to say they don't like Tom Sawyer or Limelight because they've heard them too many times. Like everyone else, I like variety in what I listen to, and sometimes I'm not in the mood to listen to Permanent Waves. But there is a difference ( :finbar: ) between saying you need a change of pace from listening to a particular song or album, and suggesting that your own fatigue with a song diminishes its quality. Like it or not, Tom Sawyer is an amazing tune. It's the reason that we all own Counterparts, but chances are the person next to you at the coffee shop, if he or she is a rock fan, owns Moving Pictures.

 

So knock it off. If you have everything Rush ever released on your iPhone all the time, by all means, listen to Vapor Trails and Roll the Bones today. But if you were being banished to a desert island, and you only could take one Rush album to listen to for the rest of your life, you're not taking Caress of Steel. You know it. :)

 

There is a lot of truth in what you've posted. I think an important to distinguish what is your "favorite" versus what is the "best." I went through a period of time where I preferred to listen to synth and 90s Rush because it still had a degree of newness to me. At that time, I might have said Power Windows was my favorite album..........but even at that time I would still ranking Moving pictures as the better album.

 

Another observation- on an internet forum, people are often looking for attention or trying to stif something up, and like to flaunt their own "unique" tastes. This is not necessarily a bad thing, it certainly helps to start conversation

 

But not everyone will think the "best" is the same as you. Personally I think Clockwork Angels is their best. I'm not doing that for attention, it is, in my opinion, their best work. These are all subjective, you can't say that Moving Pictures is objectively the best work, because so many huge fans can disagree on that.

May I ask how old you are or at least when you became a fan? Its just for a survey I am doing for a book I am writing regarding this forum and Rush fandom in general... :)

...

 

I was maybe 14 or 15 when I became a fan (I'm 18)

:dweez: Thought so. Thanks much... :cheers:

 

Though A Farewell to Kings is a close second for me!

Nice. Must be a pleasure to the ears after listening to your favorite... :)

[Blue J]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

 

lol.......you might let 4 go by.......Well i MIGHT not need your list approval :P :D

 

Mick

 

Stick to your list, Mick!

 

This whole thread, to me, is a case of 'consider the source'. The OP is the same cat who called me out in another thread recently for saying that my two favourite Zeppelin albums are Led Zeppelin III and Presence (which they are, no lie).

 

As if a person's tastes cannot possibly be such... :sigh:

[Rick N. Backer]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

 

lol.......you might let 4 go by.......Well i MIGHT not need your list approval :P :D

 

Mick

 

As it turns out you do. :)

 

Honestly, some of you guys are missing this whole "good humored" thing.

[Narps]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

 

lol.......you might let 4 go by.......Well i MIGHT not need your list approval :P :D

 

Mick

 

Stick to your list, Mick!

 

This whole thread, to me, is a case of 'consider the source'. The OP is the same cat who called me out in another thread recently for saying that my two favourite Zeppelin albums are Led Zeppelin III and Presence (which they are, no lie).

 

As if a person's tastes cannot possibly be such... :sigh:

Geez no wonder he called you out...

[LedRush]

The distinction between the better albums and your favorite albums is an important one, though when I put my lists together, they are usually a hybrid of the two.

[LedRush]

my top 5 cause i like lists, lol

 

1. Hemispheres

2. HYF

3. Permanent Waves

4. Power Windows

5. Signals

 

Mick

 

1, 3 and 5 are all well within the margin of error. I might, might let 4 go by. But not 2. That does not belong in the top 19. :)

 

lol.......you might let 4 go by.......Well i MIGHT not need your list approval :P :D

 

Mick

 

Stick to your list, Mick!

 

This whole thread, to me, is a case of 'consider the source'. The OP is the same cat who called me out in another thread recently for saying that my two favourite Zeppelin albums are Led Zeppelin III and Presence (which they are, no lie).

 

As if a person's tastes cannot possibly be such... :sigh:

 

At least you didn't try and put Signals in the same class as Rush's best work.

[Narps]

The distinction between the better albums and your favorite albums is an important one, though when I put my lists together, they are usually a hybrid of the two.

Mine are just one in the same... ;)

[Tuesday's Gone]

The distinction between the better albums and your favorite albums is an important one, though when I put my lists together, they are usually a hybrid of the two.

 

My favorite Rush album is Moving Pictures but best means nothing at all to me. Music is art, not a competition. It's a matter of taste so I don't undertand how anyone can objectively say that an album is better than another.

[Blue J]

The distinction between the better albums and your favorite albums is an important one, though when I put my lists together, they are usually a hybrid of the two.

 

I rather agree with that, but everybody is different. For many people, that may be whatever album or albums they first heard, or whatever was the newest Rush album at the time they became fans. And that can vary greatly, with a band whose catalog spans several decades.

[LedRush]

The distinction between the better albums and your favorite albums is an important one, though when I put my lists together, they are usually a hybrid of the two.

 

I rather agree with that, but everybody is different. For many people, that may be whatever album or albums they first heard, or whatever was the newest Rush album at the time they became fans. And that can vary greatly, with a band whose catalog spans several decades.

 

Absolutely. Even in trying to determine the "best" rather than your "favorite", it is still a very subjective process.

[LedRush]

The distinction between the better albums and your favorite albums is an important one, though when I put my lists together, they are usually a hybrid of the two.

 

My favorite Rush album is Moving Pictures but best means nothing at all to me. Music is art, not a competition. It's a matter of taste so I don't undertand how anyone can objectively say that an album is better than another.

 

You can't say it objectively. But you can have different criteria for judging albums other than whatever you like the most. There are many albums that I can recognize as great that I don't like as much as other albums which I don't think are great. I have different criteria for each, though each is still a subjective assessment by me.

[ReRushed]

I think a Rush fan can make an argument why Hold Your Fire is his/her favorite album more than it being Rush's best album. It's all semantics, isn't it?

 

Oh yeah, I'm a Beatles fan and "What's the New Mary Jane" is brilliant. The best thing the Beatles recorded.

Edited July 7, 2015 by ReRushed