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Posted 01 January 2018 - 08:37 PM

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Packer fans everywhere are praying for the departure of D-coordinator Dom Capers.   :o :o

Unconfirmed reports are out.  He gone.

GM Ted Thompson is also stepping down and assuming a new, advisory position with the team.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM

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View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:10 PM

View Postrocket ignites, on 01 January 2018 - 02:17 PM, said:

I was a little surprised about Caldwell.  Del Rio wouldn't be a goner unless Gruden is already hooked by da rayduhhhhhhs.
caldwell was 4-23 against winning teams. it was obvious they hit a brick wall with him running the team. .500ish is a no man's land in the NFL. In the past, .500 was acceptable with the Lions...not with Bob Quinn as GM.

Cooter and Austin are overrated as coordinators so the coaching staff needs a clean sweep.

Edited by HemiBeers, 01 January 2018 - 10:11 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:11 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

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View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
Gruden just loves the ego stroking. he won't go back to coaching.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:12 PM

Well I am not so surprised about the Bucs keeping Dirk Koetter on at Tampa but I am shocked that DC Mike Smith will be retained. I believe Tampa had if not the worst ranked defense is way closer to last than 1st...

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:16 PM

I'd loves me some Bill Cowher for the Lions. But he's been out of coaching since 2006 and would be nuts to take the Lions job just for a salary grab. Everyone knows the Lions HC job is the Cygnus X-1 (black hole) of coaching jobs.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:34 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

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View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
If Davis gave him a 2% stake in the team that would be worth $50 million.   And rising.

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:38 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
If Davis gave him a 2% stake in the team that would be worth $50 million.   And rising.

How much does he make not to work the hours and deal with the BS now?

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Posted 01 January 2018 - 10:39 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 10:34 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
If Davis gave him a 2% stake in the team that would be worth $50 million.   And rising.

How much does he make not to work the hours and deal with the BS now?
I've heard $10 million a year.

Edit.   It appears to be $6.5 m per annum.

Edited by laughedatbytime, 01 January 2018 - 10:41 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2018 - 12:00 AM

We'll have to go back and peruse all his Grudenisms, tips and critiques of other teams and see if he puts it into practice with the Raiders or not... :hail:

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 04:49 AM

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.

:eyeroll:

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:00 AM

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.
I think Gruden's problem is thinking the game has fundamentally changed since he left.   Sure, when he left the league had no idea of what a pass was and now they have no idea of what a catch is, but he's missing the big picture, what hasn't changed, who the rules and calls are benefiting.

Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

Or is it "and it (the river) goes on and on and on"?

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 09:44 AM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.
I think Gruden's problem is thinking the game has fundamentally changed since he left.   Sure, when he left the league had no idea of what a pass was and now they have no idea of what a catch is, but he's missing the big picture, what hasn't changed, who the rules and calls are benefiting.

Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

Or is it "and it (the river) goes on and on and on"?

Maybe they should appoint a special counsel to look into this.  The Patriots have won at least 12 games the last 8 seasons.  This century they have won less than 10 games only once, and exactly 10 games once.  They have won 5 Super Bowls.  They have been in the last 6 AFC Championships.  Like Hillary's supporters, their detractors only want to create the impression that's there's some untoward reason that's happened in mush brains.

44 seasons and counting.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 05:24 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 January 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.
I think Gruden's problem is thinking the game has fundamentally changed since he left.   Sure, when he left the league had no idea of what a pass was and now they have no idea of what a catch is, but he's missing the big picture, what hasn't changed, who the rules and calls are benefiting.

Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

Or is it "and it (the river) goes on and on and on"?

Maybe they should appoint a special counsel to look into this.  The Patriots have won at least 12 games the last 8 seasons.  This century they have won less than 10 games only once, and exactly 10 games once.  They have won 5 Super Bowls.  They have been in the last 6 AFC Championships.  Like Hillary's supporters, their detractors only want to create the impression that's there's some untoward reason that's happened in mush brains.

44 seasons and counting.
you know.

You may put on your Bravest Face, but you know.

And it's gonna take some extra help with the way Brady's been throwing the ball lately.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:00 PM

Marvin Lewis, back for 2 more years.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:31 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 07:00 PM, said:

Marvin Lewis, back for 2 more years.

GtFOoH.   Are you serious?

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 07:36 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 January 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.
I think Gruden's problem is thinking the game has fundamentally changed since he left.   Sure, when he left the league had no idea of what a pass was and now they have no idea of what a catch is, but he's missing the big picture, what hasn't changed, who the rules and calls are benefiting.

Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

Or is it "and it (the river) goes on and on and on"?

Maybe they should appoint a special counsel to look into this.  The Patriots have won at least 12 games the last 8 seasons.  This century they have won less than 10 games only once, and exactly 10 games once.  They have won 5 Super Bowls.  They have been in the last 6 AFC Championships.  Like Hillary's supporters, their detractors only want to create the impression that's there's some untoward reason that's happened in mush brains.

44 seasons and counting.
you know.

You may put on your Bravest Face, but you know.

And it's gonna take some extra help with the way Brady's been throwing the ball lately.

He has struggled of late, true.  Just as he did in the Super Bowl last year for about 3 full quarters.

I'm not sure they can beat Pittsburgh again this year though.

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:01 PM

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 January 2018 - 07:36 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 January 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.
I think Gruden's problem is thinking the game has fundamentally changed since he left.   Sure, when he left the league had no idea of what a pass was and now they have no idea of what a catch is, but he's missing the big picture, what hasn't changed, who the rules and calls are benefiting.

Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

Or is it "and it (the river) goes on and on and on"?

Maybe they should appoint a special counsel to look into this.  The Patriots have won at least 12 games the last 8 seasons.  This century they have won less than 10 games only once, and exactly 10 games once.  They have won 5 Super Bowls.  They have been in the last 6 AFC Championships.  Like Hillary's supporters, their detractors only want to create the impression that's there's some untoward reason that's happened in mush brains.

44 seasons and counting.
you know.

You may put on your Bravest Face, but you know.

And it's gonna take some extra help with the way Brady's been throwing the ball lately.

He has struggled of late, true.  Just as he did in the Super Bowl last year for about 3 full quarters.

I'm not sure they can beat Pittsburgh again this year though.
This means you're picking Buffalo to beat Jacksonville, right?

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Posted 02 January 2018 - 08:28 PM

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 08:01 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 January 2018 - 07:36 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 02 January 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 02 January 2018 - 07:00 AM, said:

View PostTransverse Leaf Spring, on 02 January 2018 - 01:12 AM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

View Postlaughedatbytime, on 01 January 2018 - 06:09 PM, said:

View PostRick N. Backer, on 01 January 2018 - 05:51 PM, said:

Why would Gruden give up his cushy gig to go back to the Raiders?  I know it’s being reported they want him, but is there any indication Gruden wants the job?  Or would even consider it?
For part ownership of the team.   At least that's the rumor.

He’d be foolish to go back.  I’m sure he makes plenty of money now, and no headaches.
You just don’t get it. There is something really special about legitimately winning a Super Bowl.
I think Gruden's problem is thinking the game has fundamentally changed since he left.   Sure, when he left the league had no idea of what a pass was and now they have no idea of what a catch is, but he's missing the big picture, what hasn't changed, who the rules and calls are benefiting.

Plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

Or is it "and it (the river) goes on and on and on"?

Maybe they should appoint a special counsel to look into this.  The Patriots have won at least 12 games the last 8 seasons.  This century they have won less than 10 games only once, and exactly 10 games once.  They have won 5 Super Bowls.  They have been in the last 6 AFC Championships.  Like Hillary's supporters, their detractors only want to create the impression that's there's some untoward reason that's happened in mush brains.

44 seasons and counting.
you know.

You may put on your Bravest Face, but you know.

And it's gonna take some extra help with the way Brady's been throwing the ball lately.

He has struggled of late, true.  Just as he did in the Super Bowl last year for about 3 full quarters.

I'm not sure they can beat Pittsburgh again this year though.
This means you're picking Buffalo to beat Jacksonville, right?

Jacksonville’s D is probably too tough.





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