The Cat 3 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) This is from Ultimate Classic Rock... The release of Bob Dylan‘s ‘Basement Tapes‘ box set earlier this week was enough to get us thinking about which of our favorite bands could get similar treatment. But now we learn that we will never see one from Rush, because according to drummer Neil Peart, they have nothing in their vaults. In the video above, a teaser for his interview with George Stroumboulopoulos of CBC Radio 2 that will air Sunday (Nov. 9), Peart gives an example of what he calls “the Rush way of doing things. We’ve never given up on a song. We do not have a single unreleased song in the world.” Explaining further after Stroumboulopoulos expresses surprise, Peart says that “if we went far enough and if we believed in it, we kept working on it. A lot of stuff got thrown away before it got that far or syphoned into other songs. I call my lyrical file the ‘scrap pot’ and I’ll go [through it] when I’m looking for bits and pieces and musically, [hopefully] we’re the same. If things [are] not happening, we’ll throw it away.” He describes ‘Wish Them Well’ from 2012′s ‘Clockwork Angels‘ as a track that went through several revisions. “[T]hree times we wrote that song and threw it away and it was the third version, finally, that pleased us all,” he continues. “The will was only fed by the inspiration, ‘Do we believe in this song?” But inevitably, when you get to the recording stage and the mixing stage, it might not be what you’d envisioned.” The second half of the video sheds light on the different approaches favored by Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee in the recording and mixing processes. ‘The Strombo Show‘ airs on CBC Radio 2 Sunday nights at 8PM Eastern, and will be available online Monday. Edited November 9, 2014 by ReGorLaTroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) I believe him; I can only imagine how bad an unreleased Roll The Bones song would be. Edited November 9, 2014 by Mr. IsNot 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I believe him; I can only imagine how bad an unreleased Roll The Bones song would be.The ones not good enough for RTB were released on S&A. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 He's lying! He's got dozens of RUSH songs hidden in a special vault. RUSH epics with sci-fi lyrics that he finds embarrassing, and Good Lord he's banished Jeddi Lee Wino and Alex Zivo from ever releasing them! He has his literary toff cronies to think about these days, they wouldn't be amused by any more Cygnus X-1s or Xanadus. :madra: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't imagine how bad the other Wish Them Well versions were... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 He's lying! He's got dozens of RUSH songs hidden in a special vault. RUSH epics with sci-fi lyrics that he finds embarrassing, and Good Lord he's banished Jeddi Lee Wino and Alex Zivo from ever releasing them! He has his literary toff cronies to think about these days, they wouldn't be amused by any more Cygnus X-1s or Xanadus. :madra:Love those British terms...tiff. :) Let's see if I can use one appropriately. Are you saying Neil's a tosser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 He's lying! He's got dozens of RUSH songs hidden in a special vault. RUSH epics with sci-fi lyrics that he finds embarrassing, and Good Lord he's banished Jeddi Lee Wino and Alex Zivo from ever releasing them! He has his literary toff cronies to think about these days, they wouldn't be amused by any more Cygnus X-1s or Xanadus. :madra:Love those British terms...tiff. :) Let's see if I can use one appropriately. Are you saying Neil's a tosser? :yes: :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't imagine how bad the other Wish Them Well versions were... My thoughts exactly. :D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Hope he keeps working on "9 Lives" - a cat's take on Dog Years. I heard they are on their 173rd version. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't imagine how bad the other Wish Them Well versions were... My thoughts exactly. :D Those versions of Wish Them Well haven't been released so he completely contradicted himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Am I the only one who didn´t think this was news? They´ve always said they threw away any material that didn´t work when they were recording the albums. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersyl Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I`ll gladly slap the other 2 versions of Wish Them Well on my version of CA to replace the one they ended up putting on the CD.... Oh wait... MY Version ends with Headlong Flight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 A version of Earthshine was also thrown away and the song was completely reworked from the ground up. Recordings of these early versions have to exist. They should release all of these early versions one day. Along with the never heard death metal version of The Speed of Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relayer2112 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I've heard in several interviews that they just didn't bother developing a song if it wasn't working. Bits and pieces of those songs that they liked would wind up in something else. I would bet money that they have plenty of outtakes of early versions of released songs which would be an interesting listen, but I don't think the band would agree. I know that for several years they would have a short tour prior to going into the recording studio where they would play songs that were not yet released, but were being developed for a new album. Subdivisions was played during one of these short tours prior to Signals release and is definitely a different version of the song (albeit slightly). The closest mention of something unreleased that I have heard was that evidently "Natural Science" originally had much different lyrics. Evidently Neil was trying to work the story of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight into that music and they just couldn't get it to work. The lyrics were scrapped and we are left with the absolute gem that wound up on the record. I would love to hear a version of that song with the original lyrics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It was more than just different lyrics with Gaiwan, it was a completely different arrangement and bits and pieces of it were adapted and adjusted for Natural Science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You know, I think I somehow believe him when he says there's nothing left in the vault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 You know, I think I somehow believe him when he says there's nothing left in the vault. I do too. Because it's already been stated by Ged and Al many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 So if there is nothing left in the vault,when they get round to doing their remasters with companion discs(as Mr Page has done with Zep) we will have karoke versions of Spirit of Radio and no guitar solos in Limeight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x1yyz Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 You know, I think I somehow believe him when he says there's nothing left in the vault. I do too. Because it's already been stated by Ged and Al many times. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 It was more than just different lyrics with Gaiwan, it was a completely different arrangement and bits and pieces of it were adapted and adjusted for Natural Science. Bits and pieces of Gaiwan appear throughout PeW actually. It's not just NatSci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 But Geddy is quoted in the book that I have saying that there is a special version of Mission they will release one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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