Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 I understand where they are coming from, but they (especially Neil, who seems to get annoyed) appear not to understand the fans. We listen; they create. It's like your children. The one that causes you the most heartache and worry tends to be your favorite. That's the way their albums/songs are with Rush. The songs that caused them the most to create are their favorites. Except Grace Under Pressure. Which was a nightmare to make all around.I wasn't a fan of Grace Under Pressure when it came out. I was expecting another Signals kind of album. And remember I was a new fan and wasn't aware they changed their sound and approach after a couple of albums. 1984 turned out to not be a good year for me personally, so it didn't help matters.I've written on here before that it was a bad, really bad, year for me as well. Lots of memories associated with that album and none of them good, but I still love Distant Early Warning, no matter what it reminds me of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Not to sway this discussion, but despite my misgivings about Grace Under Pressure, I think 1984 had some of the best music of any decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto.And that proves my own point that Rush has crummy taste in their own music. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick Don't prove nothing. Artists are terrible judges of their own work. Edited October 25, 2014 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto. It don't prove nThey don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick Don't prove nothing. Artists are terrible judges of their own work.Um, I think you're confused here. Last I checked Mick was a big fan of Presto. Edited October 25, 2014 by len(songs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol MickI'm no lover of Presto, but I agree that it is quite underrated. It doesn't deserve to be at the bottom, at least.. And it sounds like they just really don't like the production but they like the songs....this is what they say: According to Lee during the Rush in Rio concert (as well as the recent "Box Set" episode on VH1 Classic), "The Pass" is one of Rush's favourite songs. In a 2011 interview, Peart said of Presto: "That was an album that, for all of us, should have been so much better than it was... If we could do one [album] again, it would be that one, because we still love the songs from it, but... you can never make magic happen." [5] Edited October 25, 2014 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Did everyone here know that they were going to stop touring all together after the Hold Your Fire tour? I didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 25, 2014 Author Share Posted October 25, 2014 Did everyone here know that they were going to stop touring all together after the Hold Your Fire tour? I didn't know that.I remember reading this on the Power Windows interview page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Does anyone know the reason why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstantial tree Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 The only thing I remember was that Geddy suffered from illness throughout a good portion of the tour. Several shows were cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto. They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick Don't prove nothing. Artists are terrible judges of their own work.Um, I think you're confused here. Last I checked Mick was a big fan of Presto. Maybe. I don't have a file on him. Edited October 25, 2014 by savagegrace26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Does anyone know the reason why? Because he listened to Hold Your Fire. Right afterwards he played Moving Pictures. And he nearly died. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtualbob64 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Even though The Big Money is probably on my top ten list of favorite Rush songs.I think PW is a better overall album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Even though The Big Money is probably on my top ten list of favorite Rush songs.I think PW is a better overall album.Which PW? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 (edited) JusThey don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto. They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick Don't prove nothing. Artists are terrible judges of their own work.Um, I think you're confused here. Last I checked Mick was a big fan of Presto. Maybe. I don't have a file on him. I am......Love Presto. I was saying i disagree with the boys on their opinion of it......if that even is their opiinion Mick Edited October 26, 2014 by bluefox4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JusThey don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto. They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick Don't prove nothing. Artists are terrible judges of their own work.Um, I think you're confused here. Last I checked Mick was a big fan of Presto. Maybe. I don't have a file on him. I am......Love Presto. I was saying i disagree with the boys on their opinion of it......if that even is their opiinion Mick It is their opinion. It is quoted in the Classic Rock Clockwork Angels special edition magazine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Well then it's wrong, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Well then it's wrong, lol Mick Especially if they really rate T4E highly. Eew. (Although I doooo like that album...in a bottom five kind of way). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 26, 2014 Author Share Posted October 26, 2014 Again, I'm no Presto fan, but it does NOT belong below any 90's album. Maybe it was just harder for them to make Presto, and so they associate bad memories with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagegrace26 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 JusThey don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick I love Presto. They don't care for Presto at all. Just proves my point further, lol Mick Don't prove nothing. Artists are terrible judges of their own work.Um, I think you're confused here. Last I checked Mick was a big fan of Presto. Maybe. I don't have a file on him. I am......Love Presto. I was saying i disagree with the boys on their opinion of it......if that even is their opiinion Mick Do I have to post this again? According to Lee during the Rush in Rio concert (as well as the recent "Box Set" episode on VH1 Classic), "The Pass" is one of Rush's favourite songs. In a 2011 interview, Peart said of Presto: "That was an album that, for all of us, should have been so much better than it was... If we could do one [album] again, it would be that one, because we still love the songs from it, but... you can never make magic happen." [5] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted October 27, 2014 Author Share Posted October 27, 2014 I understand where they are coming from, but they (especially Neil, who seems to get annoyed) appear not to understand the fans. We listen; they create. It's like your children. The one that causes you the most heartache and worry tends to be your favorite. That's the way their albums/songs are with Rush. The songs that caused them the most to create are their favorites. Except Grace Under Pressure. Which was a nightmare to make all around.They don't like GuP? “I did some listening to ‘Between the Wheels’ and [other pieces on Grace Under Pressure a couple of months ago [in 2004], and I just love them. They’re really dense. Peter Henderson [who worked on the album] was a very good engineer. I do think he did a great job recording the album.”—Geddy in Contents Under Pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disk98 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. :P 1. The Spirit of Radio2. Jacob's Ladder3. Natural Science4. Marathon5. Freewill6. The Big Money7. Mystic Rhythms8. Grand Designs9. Manhattan Project10. Territories11. Entre Nous12. Middletown Dreams13. Different Strings14. Emotion Detector The worst of Permanent Waves is worse than the worst of Power Windows. But with its lower lows, PeW has higher highs.You put the lowest on PeW over the lowest on PoW Oh, I see. Oops. Emotion Detector should be #11. I think I just forgot it in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) I understand where they are coming from, but they (especially Neil, who seems to get annoyed) appear not to understand the fans. We listen; they create. It's like your children. The one that causes you the most heartache and worry tends to be your favorite. That's the way their albums/songs are with Rush. The songs that caused them the most to create are their favorites. Except Grace Under Pressure. Which was a nightmare to make all around.They don't like GuP? “I did some listening to ‘Between the Wheels’ and [other pieces on Grace Under Pressure a couple of months ago [in 2004], and I just love them. They’re really dense. Peter Henderson [who worked on the album] was a very good engineer. I do think he did a great job recording the album.”—Geddy in Contents Under PressureDon't take it up with me, take it up with them. I'm telling you what I read. What I found amazing to read is that they don't listen to their own music. Commenting on their albums, Alex said most of them (when they were trying to decide what to sing on the VT tour) they hadn't listened to in twenty years. Edited October 27, 2014 by Lorraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 PeW..................................PoWA small gun goes pew pew pew.. A big gun goes POW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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