How Many people really rate ALL THREE Vapor Trails

[treeduck]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:40 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:37 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:32 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:16 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:14 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:02 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush That just proves your opinion is inaccurate as you say it's rock bottom...   Every studio Rush album (with the exception of the new one) received over 1,000 votes on that website. That to me is a pretty definitive consensus opinion, and not by just hardcore Rush fanatics, but casual fans and non-fans as well. According to them, VT is scraping the bottom of the barrel.   Say whatever you want, and you will ( ), but those numbers do not lie. It amuses me that you have to "take comfort" when you see opinions that don't adhere to your own. I hope you get plenty of comfort from Rate Your Music Gary, I really do... well, you're the one who suggested i wish i had unlimited voting rights to prove my perspective.   i'm just saying i don't need to. the results are in, and the proof as well. I never mentioned anything about proof or proving anything. It's you who speaks in these terms Gazza, which is obviously extremely foolish when talking about something as subjective as music.   Hopefully you'll come realise this in the near future once your awareness expands a little more...   look, you posted more words, and STILL those numbers haven't changed! Numbers don't mean anything Gary as I'm sure you say yourself whenever your age comes up in conversation...

[Chicken hawk]

QUOTE (ILSnwdog @ Jun 18 2012, 04:14 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 02:52 PM) Ok I'm one of those people who enjoy Clockwork Angels, Vapor Trails AND Snakes & Arrows, how many more of us are there?           Me. Another ME ! Loving all three.

[They Bow Defeated]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM)

QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:02 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific. Blah, blah blah...   The numbers are still there Goober...

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 03:50 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Obviously if you love the album you're entitled to your own opinion, and I would be the last person to say your enjoyment of the album is invalid.   All I'm saying is that the general consensus is that VT is the weakest album, with the exception of T4E, which is only barely ahead of it.   It's not about being right. It's about the facts of what the consensus opinion is. The numbers don't lie. If you don't like the numbers, I can't help that. I don't like how low Rush and HYF are consistently rated, but that doesn't make them suddenly have greater stature among the general public's views on those albums. The results are clear. You don't have to like them, but arguing hard facts changes nothing.

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:03 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific. Blah, blah blah...   The numbers are still there Goober...   As I've been saying.

[3113]

I voted "I hate all three". Like someone said in the Rolling Stone review thread this producer has made another safe sounding rock album. The Nickelback reference is perfect.

 

Vapor Trails/Snakes & Arrows/Clockwork Angels all run together in a big ball of blandness (except maybe Caravan). I can't tell any songs apart. Sad, I was hoping they would get away from that after the promising Caravan single.

 

More synth's, more proggy, less bluesy rock!

 

That goddamn Feedback album sent them into a slump deeper than Bacchus Plateau!

 

 

 

[treeduck]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:08 PM)

QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 03:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Obviously if you love the album you're entitled to your own opinion, and I would be the last person to say your enjoyment of the album is invalid.   All I'm saying is that the general consensus is that VT is the weakest album, with the exception of T4E, which is only barely ahead of it.   It's not about being right. It's about the facts of what the consensus opinion is. The numbers don't lie. If you don't like the numbers, I can't help that. I don't like how low Rush and HYF are consistently rated, but that doesn't make them suddenly have greater stature among the general public's views on those albums. The results are clear. You don't have to like them, but arguing hard facts changes nothing. Let's try another site at random and see if the numbers lie or not...   http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Rush/41/

[treeduck]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:09 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific. Blah, blah blah...   The numbers are still there Goober...   As I've been saying. Yes but on prog archives they're not saying anything that you can give you comfort Gary...

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:11 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:09 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific. Blah, blah blah...   The numbers are still there Goober...   As I've been saying. Yes but on prog archives they're not saying anything that you can give you comfort Gary...   Don't need it. Rush hasn't had a real prog album since 1981. The results there get a bit wonky when a group isn't truly prog anymore.

[Mystic Slipperman]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 04:35 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:11 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:09 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific. Blah, blah blah...   The numbers are still there Goober...   As I've been saying. Yes but on prog archives they're not saying anything that you can give you comfort Gary...   Don't need it. Rush hasn't had a real prog album since 1981. The results there get a bit wonky when a group isn't truly prog anymore. And some of us would say that calling MP "prog" is stretching it, 11-minute song and time-changes notwithstanding...

Edited June 18, 2012 by Mystic Slipperman

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (Mystic Slipperman @ Jun 18 2012, 04:40 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 04:35 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:11 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:09 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 04:03 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 06:02 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 03:54 PM) QUOTE (They Bow Defeated @ Jun 18 2012, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 18 2012, 05:01 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Jun 18 2012, 01:35 PM) The posters known as Rushgoober and METALDAD probably wish they had unlimited voting rights in this poll so they could try and outdo each other in their respective (and well known) poll options... No, I take comfort in knowing that VT is the lowest rated album (ok, 2nd to last by a slim margin) on rateyourmusic.com, a much more objective website of general music and Rush fans who vote on albums. My opinion is already in the majority.   http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/rush Cool, another Rateyourmusic link that proves Rushgoober is right.   I will now get rid of my VT CD and vinyl and try to erase my memory of the concert. Here's a site that is another one of Goober's that doesn't quite gel with his opinions...what's this Hold Your Fire beaten by Vapor Trails??       http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=609 That just shows what prog rock fans specifically think based on how good an album it is and especially on how prog it is or is not. Rateyourmusic includes a broad spectrum of music fans. It's the most reliable site out there to determine consensus opinion as it's not genre-specific. Blah, blah blah...   The numbers are still there Goober...   As I've been saying. Yes but on prog archives they're not saying anything that you can give you comfort Gary...   Don't need it. Rush hasn't had a real prog album since 1981. The results there get a bit wonky when a group isn't truly prog anymore. And some of us would say that calling MP "prog" is stretching it, 11-minute song and time-changes notwithstanding... True. Their last all-out prog album was Hemispheres. Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures are borderline...

[ak2112]

Vapor Trails is far and away the worst album the band has ever released IMO. Pure garbage (and I'm talking about the songs, not the mix/mastering). I try and listen to it twice a year all the way through and every time its pure torture. Clockwork Angels and Snake & Arrows however...pure genius!

[Rushman14]

love all 3.

 

gonna crank Out Of The Cradle on my way home

[laughedatbytime]

CA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>VT>S&A

[rrzubnyy]

I like all 3 but VT needs to be polished up with regards to production....Earthshine would be terrific if it wasn't so muddy..

[Rushman14]

QUOTE (rrzubnyy @ Jun 18 2012, 05:32 PM)

Earthshine would be terrific if it wasn't so muddy..

there is a remixed version on retrospective 3. sounds good.

Edited June 19, 2012 by Rushman14

[Slack jaw gaze]

Not surprising that the silent majority likes all 3.

[EmotionDetector]

QUOTE (Slack jaw gaze @ Jun 18 2012, 08:50 PM)

Not surprising that the silent majority likes all 3.

Well, I'm not silent.

[Garden Dancer]

Good/very good I like Snakes And Arrows. Some days I like it a lot. So that one I call good/very good.

Very good I love the songs and energy of Vapor Trails. Yeah, there are some serious issues with the sound, but I love the songs. So for the songs, I'll call Vapor Trails very good.

Great Clockwork Angels, I love. Absolutely love. Maybe I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase with it, but the more I listen, the more I love it. I'm going with great.

[jc4gd]

There is a season for every Rush album under the Sun.........

[Steely Caress]

Number 7.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Slack jaw gaze @ Jun 18 2012, 07:50 PM)

Not surprising that the silent majority likes all 3.

Obviously I'm not silent, but I am part of the majority here...