rrzubnyy

The first time I ever heard RUSH was when I was 12 in 1980. I was at the school carnival and was on one of those rides where some dirty scrubby looking carnie guy plays his favorite music....He happened to play The Spirit of Radio. Many tunes were played on that ride but I was instantly hooked to that one song. Some time later I heard Tom Sawyer and recognized the voice and bought my first RUSH album. I thought for sure I'd find The Spirit of Radio on MP that day but didn't and was satisfied with MP. After playing the album 100 times I had to find The Spirit of Radio and eventually did. But it was Exit...Stage Left. So I bought that album, my 2nd RUSH album and then heard other songs that I loved....I then bought the other albums in descending order at that time as there was only 8 studio albums and 2 live Albums....I was in hog heaven with so much material(1981)to listen and dissect...I love how their setlist is also in descending order. I know the end is near for them but they will always be a part of my playlist during the year. Usually around their new tour I start playing all of their albums again to get back into it before they come to Tampa...I love all of their music no matter how much they evolved. If I had to pick my top 4 RUSH albums I'd say this: 1. Moving Pictures( my first) 2. Clockwork Angels 3. 2112 4. Permanent Waves

QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Sep 17 2012, 12:03 PM) QUOTE (vital signz @ Sep 17 2012, 09:40 AM) The complaining isn't about CA. It's about the ignoring of so many of the other albums. Bingo. They played a lot of the 70's in the past 2000's tours..... The real problem is people are spoiled brats! When CA was released it was clearly obvious that they were going to play 7+ songs from it....You could just tell....I think CA is a tremendous CD and probably their best material since MP( my opinion) and am happy to see that they are playing a lot of it.... The perfect setlist is never going to happen, get over it people!

QUOTE (treeduck @ Sep 17 2012, 06:32 PM) QUOTE (rrzubnyy @ Sep 17 2012, 06:30 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Sep 17 2012, 04:54 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Sep 17 2012, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Sep 17 2012, 04:27 PM) It's the Clockwork Windows tour! You know there's something strange going on when there's the same amount of songs represented from Roll the Bones as Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves combined. It's the Power Angels tour! Maybe they'll sell kung fu power angel dolls as souvenirs? Maybe they'll make a saturday morning cartoon out of them? Maybe a lot of Power Windows and CA but they still changed up the end in Chicago with: YYZ ,Spirit of Radio, Tom Sawyer, Overture, Temples and the Grand Finale..... People are getting too worked up over the setlist.....I like all of the RUSH eras and while I was not A HUGE fan of the the mid to late 80's RUSH, I still like that era and can not complain of this setlist.... They wanted to apparently represent CA and why not? CA is terrific and want to hear it live so who cares if they play 9 songs? But the perfect setlist that people want is not going to happen....Every tour since Vapor Trails had many old songs from the 70's...Did people miss this? Heck, my 1st concert was Grace Under Pressure and from that tour1984- until the 2000's I had never heard A Passage to Bangkok...They brought it back and there were many others I didn't hear from the moldy oldy era.....So I got my fill and this tour brings back some others I had not yet heard like Grand Designs, they never came to my town in the PW tour........ I have no issues with people complaining and I still remeber my 1st tour in 1984 when some of the older 70's RUSH fans were complaining in the bathrooms about not hearing enough of RUSH and Caress of Steel at the GUP tour.... So what has changed with fans? NOTHING! You're the one getting worked up if anyone is by the look of this post... I am just amazed of the complaining....It is a RUSH concert, ENJOY!

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Sep 17 2012, 04:19 PM) The Big Picture: RUSH: ...........................1 .......Working Man (Perhaps Gone) Fly By Night:.................0 Caress of Steel.............0 2112..............................1 ......2112 (Plus 2 extra parts) A Farewell to Kings.......0 Hemispheres.................0 Permanent Waves.........1......The Spirit Of Radio (No Wonder its in distress) 1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Moving Pictures............2......Tom Sawyer, YYZ Signals..........................2.......Subdivsions, The Analog Kid Grace Under Pressure..2......The Body Electric, Red Sector A Power Windows.............5......Big Money, Territories, Middletown Dreams, Grand Design, Mahattan Project Hold Your Fire...............1......Force 10 Presto............................1......The Pass Roll The Bones...............3......Bravado, Dreamline, Where's My Thing? Counterparts..................0 Test for Echo..................0 Vapor Trails....................0 Snake and Arrows..........1.....Far Cry Clockwork Angels...........10...All less BU2B & BU2B2 Wow! Do you think there's a hidden message in the first 7 Albums fortelling their future appearances? Now do a setlist representation of every tour since Vapor Trails..................................... Can't they change it up? So they threw a curve, so? Back in 1984 we didn't have the message boards to see the setlist 2 months in advance of them coming to our town unless we called a friend who lived in a certain town....In some ways these message boards are just here to piss and moan.... I would think people would like to just hear a RUSH concert at this stage of their careers in 2012....Talking about being severely spoiled brats???? Back in 1984 99% of us who went to the those tours did not think they would be still touring some 28 years later......I always thought when they came in town that could be the last we see of them..... Enjoy the shows......How can you complain about these guys who are still touring?????? Look at the Beatles....I believe they quit touring after 1966 and their best stuff came afterwards........ We still have RUSH touring since 1974.......Just think who was still around in those days.....Rock Bands who were touring..... This band had only one hiatis and there was a real reason for it....What are your people going to do when there are no more RUSH tours? Complain that the DVD's didn't have Making Memories on them??????

QUOTE (treeduck @ Sep 17 2012, 04:54 PM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Sep 17 2012, 04:31 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Sep 17 2012, 04:27 PM) It's the Clockwork Windows tour! You know there's something strange going on when there's the same amount of songs represented from Roll the Bones as Moving Pictures and Permanent Waves combined. It's the Power Angels tour! Maybe they'll sell kung fu power angel dolls as souvenirs? Maybe they'll make a saturday morning cartoon out of them? Maybe a lot of Power Windows and CA but they still changed up the end in Chicago with: YYZ ,Spirit of Radio, Tom Sawyer, Overture, Temples and the Grand Finale..... People are getting too worked up over the setlist.....I like all of the RUSH eras and while I was not A HUGE fan of the the mid to late 80's RUSH, I still like that era and can not complain of this setlist.... They wanted to apparently represent CA and why not? CA is terrific and want to hear it live so who cares if they play 9 songs? But the perfect setlist that people want is not going to happen....Every tour since Vapor Trails had many old songs from the 70's...Did people miss this? Heck, my 1st concert was Grace Under Pressure and from that tour1984- until the 2000's I had never heard A Passage to Bangkok...They brought it back and there were many others I didn't hear from the moldy oldy era.....So I got my fill and this tour brings back some others I had not yet heard like Grand Designs, they never came to my town in the PW tour........ I have no issues with people complaining and I still remeber my 1st tour in 1984 when some of the older 70's RUSH fans were complaining in the bathrooms about not hearing enough of RUSH and Caress of Steel at the GUP tour.... So what has changed with fans? NOTHING!

QUOTE (losingit2k @ Sep 17 2012, 01:51 PM) Look I'm a real big fan of the 80's and a hugh fan of Clockwork Angels. I was turned on to RUSH during the Keyboard era, Signals to be exact. So this setlist is a wet dream for me. However, I can also see the big picture and place myself in others people's shoes. To them this setlist is pretty one-sided. Excluding any CA newbies, they have completely ignored their 70's and post Roll the Bones fans. (I'm sure they are out there). Even I could have used some older or rarer stuff now that I'm familiar with there entire catalog. Just about everyone was expecting Jacobs Ladder or Xanadu this time around. Not only did they not get those but we didn't get anything from that era, nor anything from CP or VT. Everyone want to hear the songs from the era they fell in love with RUSH in and with such a vast catalog encompassing their career its becomes increasingly difficult to satisfy everyone. However, they could have at least provided some tunes from all eras in question. 70s's: Finding My Way, Fly By Night, Xanadu, By-Tor & Snowdog, Passage to Bangkok, Cygnus X-1, Hemisphere (Prelude) La Villa, The Trees, Closer to the Heart, Classic Era: Jacobs Ladder, Red Barchetta, Freewill or Limelight 80's: Overly represented 90's+00's Cut to the Chase, Cold Fire, Alien Shore, Vapor Trails, Secret Touch, One Little Victory, Driven, Test for Echo, Limbo S&A and CA: Well Represented. Basically a more well rounded setlist, Include everyone! They should always include every era in their setlist at least one to two songs. Thats why The Sankes and Arrows tour was well received. It contained songs from basically every era as did the Time Machine Tour. The current setlist moved away from that and it really left many asking "How about us?" They could have chosen Xanadu instead of Working Man, Limelight Instead of Bravado, Jacobs Ladder instead of Territories and Cut to the Chase or Test for Echo instead of The Big Money. The People that are disappointed aren't disgruntaled. They just want a seat at the table. They want a piece of feast. This setlist, however appetizing, is all turkey without any sides. Everyone is hungry and everyone knows the restaurant is nearing its closing. Its great that the current changes including 2112 and The Spirit of Radio might become permanent. This is a big move in the right direction. Now if they could only switch out Red Sector A for Xanadu or Jacobs Ladder. People might just stop complaining...........Maybe? Most of the tours of the 2000's represented the 70's very well......Can't they represent the 80's this time around and of course the new CA???????

QUOTE (rayrushray @ Sep 14 2012, 06:57 AM) For all the 10,000.00 fans on TRF that are elated with the bands set list decisions, there will be hundreds of thousand of fans not on TRF that are disappointed. Make no mistake hard core fans, the casual fans sitting next to you that you deem unworthy, are the ones that allow Rush to still play in arenas rather than theaters. 5,500 to 6,000 fans in Pittsburgh may soon become the norm on this tour rather than the exception. Like my opinion or not, the financial realities will soon set in. Not in Tampa! There are only a handful of tickets left...

QUOTE (greg2112 @ Sep 11 2012, 06:01 AM) QUOTE (lerxt1990 @ Sep 10 2012, 11:28 PM) QUOTE (rrzubnyy @ Sep 10 2012, 08:05 PM) QUOTE (metaldad @ Sep 10 2012, 11:27 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Sep 9 2012, 06:58 PM) QUOTE (tullfan @ Sep 9 2012, 06:23 PM) Rush gives their 70s fans a middle finger on the CA Tour. With ticket prices averaging $100.00 + this is what they do ? By what I can tell on this forum many of you are younger and have no problem with this, but you know what, Rush became popular during the 70s. Us older fans went to their shows, bought their albums, t shirts and tour books. Had a great time. This all came to a head when Moving Pictures came out and Rush was king. Record sales through the roof. All was well in Rushworld. Signals came out and was great and then they get the bright idea to not use Terry Brown and start dropping their epicness for a bunch of lame 80s records and set list that started the trend of completely ignoring their past along with a segment of their fan base, you know, the ones they gained their popularity on. It's very insulting to do this to the fans that got them there, but apparently there are other generations after who seem to love their post 1985 stuff. That's fine, I just think that Rush could put aside 45 minutes in their set list to please the older fans. After all that is the least they could do and they #!#@%ing know it. Instead they take the "This is what we are going to do and we can care less about the fans" attitude. O.K. fine. I give up. I will not be going to this show. The first Rush tour I will miss since the Hemispheres Tour. I was a diehard and they threw fans like me under the bus. I'm sick of it !!!!!!!!!!! Must be nice making tons of money playing a bunch of songs some of us don't want to hear, oh and by the way, make sure no one steals your t-shirt money Rush because you don't make any on the concert ticket. Give me a #$@%ing break. Honestly, sincerely PLEASE go f**k yourself. It bears repeating, there is no bigger bitch on the planet then a middle aged straight male Rush fan. How embarrassing You know what's embarrassing ? A middle aged gay male Rush fan that has to remind Everyone that he is gay. You are a bitter , angry little queen that brings Nothing to this board except nasty , angry post's. Please go back under the bridge you came from . The O.P. , who i Don't agree with has an opinion , look it up. How can you complain about a RUSH concert in 2012? Did anybody think in 1985 that RUSH would still be touring in 2012? 27 years later? What a bunch of spoiled brats you people are...... Im assuming you are too young (or maybe not, and if not ...) to remember the pre-internet "Neil has cancer" rumor and that the GuP tour was going to be a farewell tour. So, to your point, in 1983/84 we thought we had one year left, and that was almost 30 years ago! Hahahahaa. I remember that rumor as well and being very concerned about Neil's health, hysterical... To the point in the original post: As a fellow "old school" fan who got to see them at their peak of popularity (and ability, IMO) in the MP/Signals era, I relate and sympathize with the points he makes regarding the clear, undeniable lack of early material. HOWEVER, much of the material that many fans of our era dismiss/view as subpar (for me 87-though 91), like it or not, is already a quarter century old and classic in their own right (despite the fact that we will never view it that way), and is liked by a large portion of the younger fanbase. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I've given up on getting that classic 70s-80s setlist. But instead feel lucky to get those amazing gems from time to time (this year, Analog, last tour Camera), and enjoy the fact that theyre still around and playing at such a high level. And one more thing: that "true Rush fan" talk is total bullshit. The reason I said they are not true RUSH fans was because I feel they are "selected era" RUSH fans....It is MY OPINION! The TRUTH hurts, huh? I like all of their music, 70's-2000's.....I learned to adapt unlike some of you ungrateful RUSH fans....I am just happy to hear they are touring in 2012....Why piss and moan about setlist? Can't you be happy that they are still around?

QUOTE (tullfan @ Sep 9 2012, 06:23 PM) Rush gives their 70s fans a middle finger on the CA Tour. With ticket prices averaging $100.00 + this is what they do ? By what I can tell on this forum many of you are younger and have no problem with this, but you know what, Rush became popular during the 70s. Us older fans went to their shows, bought their albums, t shirts and tour books. Had a great time. This all came to a head when Moving Pictures came out and Rush was king. Record sales through the roof. All was well in Rushworld. Signals came out and was great and then they get the bright idea to not use Terry Brown and start dropping their epicness for a bunch of lame 80s records and set list that started the trend of completely ignoring their past along with a segment of their fan base, you know, the ones they gained their popularity on. It's very insulting to do this to the fans that got them there, but apparently there are other generations after who seem to love their post 1985 stuff. That's fine, I just think that Rush could put aside 45 minutes in their set list to please the older fans. After all that is the least they could do and they #!#@%ing know it. Instead they take the "This is what we are going to do and we can care less about the fans" attitude. O.K. fine. I give up. I will not be going to this show. The first Rush tour I will miss since the Hemispheres Tour. I was a diehard and they threw fans like me under the bus. I'm sick of it !!!!!!!!!!! Must be nice making tons of money playing a bunch of songs some of us don't want to hear, oh and by the way, make sure no one steals your t-shirt money Rush because you don't make any on the concert ticket. Give me a #$@%ing break. You my friend are not a true RUSH fan! True RUSH fans adapt to their new music thru the years and if you had issues after Moving Pictures then why are you still around even talking about RUSH? They have played many old 70's tunes during the past shows of the 2000's...Where were you?

QUOTE (metaldad @ Sep 10 2012, 11:27 AM) QUOTE (eshine @ Sep 9 2012, 06:58 PM) QUOTE (tullfan @ Sep 9 2012, 06:23 PM) Rush gives their 70s fans a middle finger on the CA Tour. With ticket prices averaging $100.00 + this is what they do ? By what I can tell on this forum many of you are younger and have no problem with this, but you know what, Rush became popular during the 70s. Us older fans went to their shows, bought their albums, t shirts and tour books. Had a great time. This all came to a head when Moving Pictures came out and Rush was king. Record sales through the roof. All was well in Rushworld. Signals came out and was great and then they get the bright idea to not use Terry Brown and start dropping their epicness for a bunch of lame 80s records and set list that started the trend of completely ignoring their past along with a segment of their fan base, you know, the ones they gained their popularity on. It's very insulting to do this to the fans that got them there, but apparently there are other generations after who seem to love their post 1985 stuff. That's fine, I just think that Rush could put aside 45 minutes in their set list to please the older fans. After all that is the least they could do and they #!#@%ing know it. Instead they take the "This is what we are going to do and we can care less about the fans" attitude. O.K. fine. I give up. I will not be going to this show. The first Rush tour I will miss since the Hemispheres Tour. I was a diehard and they threw fans like me under the bus. I'm sick of it !!!!!!!!!!! Must be nice making tons of money playing a bunch of songs some of us don't want to hear, oh and by the way, make sure no one steals your t-shirt money Rush because you don't make any on the concert ticket. Give me a #$@%ing break. Honestly, sincerely PLEASE go f**k yourself. It bears repeating, there is no bigger bitch on the planet then a middle aged straight male Rush fan. How embarrassing You know what's embarrassing ? A middle aged gay male Rush fan that has to remind Everyone that he is gay. You are a bitter , angry little queen that brings Nothing to this board except nasty , angry post's. Please go back under the bridge you came from . The O.P. , who i Don't agree with has an opinion , look it up. How can you complain about a RUSH concert in 2012? Did anybody think in 1985 that RUSH would still be touring in 2012? 27 years later? What a bunch of spoiled brats you people are......

QUOTE (Unobtrusive Companion @ Sep 10 2012, 06:54 AM) Who's to say they won't play one set twice in two shows, rather than ABABABA, go ABBABAA or something. Time will tell... And they could be seeing which setlist has the greatest response.....Maybe by next month Setlist B wins out!

How can ANYBODY complain about a RUSH concert in 2012???? Seriously? People getting all worked up over songs? What are you all going to do when they decide to retire? And who thought back in 1985 that RUSH would be playing concerts in 2012? Seriously? Quit complaining and enjoy it while it lasts! Geez! I do not care what their setlists consists of...I just want to hear them yet again... Geez, talking about being spoiled little brats!

QUOTE (FenderJazz42 @ Sep 9 2012, 02:33 PM) Very selfish setlist. I hate when bands play the majority of their latest album. Nobody wants to hear this many songs from CA. To make things worse I've always hated Force Ten and Big Money , and they have been played to death on so many tours since they have been released. I'm guessing this setlist will basically be identical throughout the whole tour. No, they have an A setlist and a B setlist.....B has 2112 on it as well as Middletown Dreams and a few other changes..

QUOTE (treeduck @ Sep 8 2012, 10:19 AM) I've no problem with them doing lots of Clockwork Angels, we knew they were gonna do that and it's a very good album (but I would prefer Seven Cities to Halo Effect and BU2B to Wish Them Well). Or the Power Windows songs...though there's probably too many... If they're giving some songs a rest why not give Working Man a rest and Tom Sawyer? If they're doing songs not played for a while off GUP why not Kid Gloves or Afterimage? Why play Bravado and Where's My Thing again? Why not something like Cut to the Chase and alien Shore? There's nothing from A Farewell to Kings, nothing much from Permanent Waves, nothing from Hemispheres. In fact there's 1 song from the 70s... Ok I'm nit picking maybe but this is just not my kind of setlist I suppose, too much from the mid 80s, & the same old 90s tracks and almost zero from the 70s... Geddy's voice can't handle the 70's anymore....

QUOTE (greg2112 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:19 AM) I'd much rather hear deep classics that they havent played since the golden era rather than songs theyve never played before. I want to hear Something for Nothing!