Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Ok, I caved and have been listening, but waiting for my purchased copy in much better sound. Beyond initial impressions now after several run throughs, I can confidently say that this album is so epic and gripping. It's not a perfect album for me and not every song is stellar, but not every song has to be IMO. No song turns me off.....at worst average with redeeming qualities even in the weaker numbers. I predict this will be regarded as one of Rush's stronger albums IMO even years later by many Rush fans..... eventually maybe even regarded as a late career classic.... just way too much substance here that should pass the test of time. But, we never know. From start to finish, most importantly.....forget analyses, nit picking, details......this album MOVES me like no recent Rush album has, and probably one of the top 5 most moving and emotional Rush albums for me both musically and lyrically........not nec top 5 favorite overall.....yet.....but top 5 grabbing my heart. It also rocks me out like no recent Rush album has. Hard to compare it with the 70s and 80s favorites and classics since it's still so new.....but one thing I know....I feel a similar amount of goose pimple moments in this album as I do my fav Rush albums from yore. Could be only the honeymoon period....but it could mean something a lot more significant for me over time. For now, dont know what that means, but if any indication, this album could stack very high in the ranked pile of Rush albums years from now. Forget musical left brain analysis for a minute....does this album as a whole move you, esp now having access to the lyrics? I know many have mentioned The Garden as particularly moving. Do the lyrical content of some of the songs resonate personally? They sure do for me in many parts....much, much more than in recent albums. Thank you Rush......for truly capturing my heart again after ages. Was hoping you would do it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitallware Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Does it move me? Overall not really but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I would say there are at least 7 songs I enjoy which is more than half. Honestly each song has moments that shine, some more than others but some really drag for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanadoo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Beautifully stated. I hope this thread receives the attention it deserves. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you wrote, this album moved me in a way no album has, and not necessarily for its music. When The Garden was over the first thing I thought was to thank Rush for this beautiful work of art. These guys f'ing rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) I already consider it a classic after two days and believe me I'm usually not quick to consider something a classic. Edited June 6, 2012 by presto123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vital signz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Zanadoo @ Jun 6 2012, 05:20 PM) Beautifully stated. I hope this thread receives the attention it deserves. I agree wholeheartedly with everything you wrote, this album moved me in a way no album has, and not necessarily for its music. When The Garden was over the first thing I thought was to thank Rush for this beautiful work of art. These guys f'ing rule. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The title track is pretty disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shreddy Lee Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yes, completely agree with OP. I have absolutely found these songs to be more emotionally powerful and moving than anything in recent memory, by Rush or not. Title track, The Wreckers, Wish Them Well, The Garden... all spectacular in this regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shail Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I have no idea why people like this album. The song writing is ok. It's not an entertaining listening experience. I've listened to the album about 5 times and I'm done with it. Can't listen to it. Just boring music. SnA is a lot more entertaining and has lots more variety of songs. The songs on CA don't have distinct sections. It's power cord happy. Drums bashing happy. Zero finesse. Geds vocal phrasing Has got to go. His bass lines are always great. Don't know what happened here. I will try a few more listens but man is the album boring at best. Might need to hear a 320 bit version. The 192 bit sucks but listenable. Getting the cd in the mail next week. I collect their CDs and vinyl. Even have the tapes that are worn out. Seeing the tunes live might make more of an impression. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 6 2012, 05:36 PM) The title track is pretty disappointing. Lot of folks felt that way at first, but with repeated listens, it has been liked a lot more. For you, if not, no biggie. Hope you like some of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (shail @ Jun 6 2012, 05:38 PM) I have no idea why people like this album. The song writing is ok. It's not an entertaining listening experience. I've listened to the album about 5 times and I'm done with it. Can't listen to it. Just boring music. SnA is a lot more entertaining and has lots more variety of songs. The songs on CA don't have distinct sections. It's power cord happy. Drums bashing happy. Zero finesse. Geds vocal phrasing Has got to go. His bass lines are always great. Don't know what happened here. I will try a few more listens but man is the album boring at best. Might need to hear a 320 bit version. The 192 bit sucks but listenable. Getting the cd in the mail next week. I collect their CDs and vinyl. Even have the tapes that are worn out. Seeing the tunes live might make more of an impression. We shall see. You have that backwards. SnA was the record that was boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (shail @ Jun 6 2012, 05:38 PM) I have no idea why people like this album. The song writing is ok. It's not an entertaining listening experience. I've listened to the album about 5 times and I'm done with it. Can't listen to it. Just boring music. SnA is a lot more entertaining and has lots more variety of songs. The songs on CA don't have distinct sections. It's power cord happy. Drums bashing happy. Zero finesse. Geds vocal phrasing Has got to go. His bass lines are always great. Don't know what happened here. I will try a few more listens but man is the album boring at best. Might need to hear a 320 bit version. The 192 bit sucks but listenable. Getting the cd in the mail next week. I collect their CDs and vinyl. Even have the tapes that are worn out. Seeing the tunes live might make more of an impression. We shall see. Sorry for your disappointment. Hope it grows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertk Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 6 2012, 05:36 PM) The title track is pretty disappointing. It's SO good! The false ending gives me chills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReflectedLight Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 6 2012, 05:36 PM) The title track is pretty disappointing. i was expecting alot more from this song with all the talk about it being epic but it doesn't stick with me at all. it's not bad but not good either, just very average to me and i don't really look to listen to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (shail @ Jun 6 2012, 05:38 PM) I have no idea why people like this album. The song writing is ok. It's not an entertaining listening experience. I've listened to the album about 5 times and I'm done with it. Can't listen to it. Just boring music. SnA is a lot more entertaining and has lots more variety of songs. The songs on CA don't have distinct sections. It's power cord happy. Drums bashing happy. Zero finesse. Geds vocal phrasing Has got to go. His bass lines are always great. Don't know what happened here. I will try a few more listens but man is the album boring at best. Might need to hear a 320 bit version. The 192 bit sucks but listenable. Getting the cd in the mail next week. I collect their CDs and vinyl. Even have the tapes that are worn out. Seeing the tunes live might make more of an impression. We shall see. And also....I have no idea why some DONT like this album or at least dont find it above avg Rush..... though I respect their opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 Can we get back to the orig topic please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 6 2012, 05:56 PM) QUOTE (shail @ Jun 6 2012, 05:38 PM) I have no idea why people like this album. The song writing is ok. It's not an entertaining listening experience. I've listened to the album about 5 times and I'm done with it. Can't listen to it. Just boring music. SnA is a lot more entertaining and has lots more variety of songs. The songs on CA don't have distinct sections. It's power cord happy. Drums bashing happy. Zero finesse. Geds vocal phrasing Has got to go. His bass lines are always great. Don't know what happened here. I will try a few more listens but man is the album boring at best. Might need to hear a 320 bit version. The 192 bit sucks but listenable. Getting the cd in the mail next week. I collect their CDs and vinyl. Even have the tapes that are worn out. Seeing the tunes live might make more of an impression. We shall see. And also....I have no idea why some DONT like this album or at least dont find it above avg Rush..... though I respect their opinions. There aren't very many that don't like it. That rating poll is off the charts positive. Most people think it's a 9 or above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Not Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (Gedneil Alpeart @ Jun 6 2012, 03:58 PM) Can we get back to the orig topic please? This is just how the forum works when there's a new release. Everything turns into a cluster of opinions Let it run it's course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gedneil Alpeart Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Jun 6 2012, 05:56 PM) QUOTE (Ovningskora @ Jun 6 2012, 05:36 PM) The title track is pretty disappointing. i was expecting alot more from this song with all the talk about it being epic but it doesn't stick with me at all. it's not bad but not good either, just very average to me and i don't really look to listen to it. Hopefully it will grow....but if not....not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vital signz Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 QUOTE (shail @ Jun 6 2012, 05:38 PM) I have no idea why people like this album. The song writing is ok. It's not an entertaining listening experience. I've listened to the album about 5 times and I'm done with it. Can't listen to it. Just boring music. SnA is a lot more entertaining and has lots more variety of songs. The songs on CA don't have distinct sections. It's power cord happy. Drums bashing happy. Zero finesse. Geds vocal phrasing Has got to go. His bass lines are always great. Don't know what happened here. I will try a few more listens but man is the album boring at best. Might need to hear a 320 bit version. The 192 bit sucks but listenable. Getting the cd in the mail next week. I collect their CDs and vinyl. Even have the tapes that are worn out. Seeing the tunes live might make more of an impression. We shall see. Try it with headphones and your eyes closed. I'm serious. The title track seemed so different at first. I wasn't getting it at all, but with repeated listens in the dark with my headphones, I totally get it now. It took me 4 times. Now I am impressed with just how "progressive" this tune is. Nothing else like it anywhere, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg2112 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 What moves me is the fact that this band can still put a kick ass, original, insanely progressive album out after all these years. Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umoveme Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes, I'm moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetaxe&saw Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yeah, I've been playing it pretty much non-stop these past two days. And, there have been moments where I've been nostalgic, wistful, almost melancholic. The music has a longing to it, a sense of inevitability, of putting ones affairs in order. Is it their swansong? Probably not, but it has that kind of feel to it. Like I said to someone in a PM last night, this is a seriously "grown-up" record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beherit Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Certain parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugen Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 The band should return to the lp format because there only able to make 40 minutes of good music... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yes, CA moves me in a similar way VT moved me 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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