Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Great lyrics, great song! I especially like the line about "value packs of ten"! 2. Piano Lessons [Written by Steven Wilson] I remember piano lessons The hours in freezing rooms Cruel ears and tiny hands Destroying timeless tunes She said there's too much out there Too much already said You'd better give up hoping You're better off in bed You don't need much to speak of No class, no wit, no soul Forget you own agenda Get ready to be sold I feel now like Christine Keeler Sleepwaking in the rain I didn't mean to lose direction I didn't want that kind of fame (Take your hands off my land) Credit me with some intelligence (if not just credit me) I come in value packs of ten (in five varieties) And even though I got it all now My only stupid dream Is you and me together And how it should have been I remember piano lessons Now everything seems clear You waiting under streetlights For dreams to disappear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Don't know if this has been posted yet (I'm on pg. 41). Steven Wilson Collecting Space (Note, it looks like Steven's doing a cameo in this video toward the end, but I could be misinformed.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESzwG_ZMDcs...-exp_r2-2r-7-HM Edited August 12, 2010 by Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Just got done listening to Tinto Brass (love that song)! Now, Lightbulb Sun is in my ears! "And I'll only take medicine if it's followed by sweets." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) I've both read in articles and heard it myself, that PT's music is difficult to define. Not only are the songs on many of their albums stylistically diverse, but also the individual songs change moods, sometimes subtely, other times drastically. Steven Wilson's solo album Insurgentes is a wonderful example of this. Take for example: Significant Other and how it ends with the music box accompanied by phonograph static in the background. As I mentioned up thread, Steven is quite the producer and really has an ear for a multiplicity of sounds. Edited August 12, 2010 by Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Sep 4 2009, 07:58 PM) "But for now we're going to finish with..." "FREEBIRD!!!" "...one last song....NOT 'Freebird!'.......That's tomorrow. The full 17-minute blowout version." I was hysterical with laughter for about 5 minutes the first time I saw/heard that line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (The Owl @ Sep 9 2009, 11:04 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 9 2009, 09:13 PM) TREE ON! TREE ON! I love it! Tritto! Edited August 12, 2010 by Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (Pags @ Sep 14 2009, 04:55 AM) So much in the music to pick out that I didn't hear on the previous listen. It's just awesome. I'm serious when I say I have not had this kind of a feeling about a band since I had my epiphony with Rush back in 1991. The more I listen to these guys, the more I want to dive in deeper, and listen more. This is huge. It's like Rush and Pink Floyd slammed together and out popped Porcupine Tree. Yet they don't for a minute sound like a copy band, or somone trying to rip off the sound or identity from someone else. They totally make their own mark on every song. Excellent analysis! I agree, except that my RUSH epiphany happened the first time I heard 2112 back in the 70's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Sep 15 2009, 08:45 AM) Geddy and Neil are considered upper echelon players, but I wouldn't consider Alex a virtuoso, though he's very well respected. He's prone to making the occasional mistake, but his emotional soloing and unique rhythm playing make him very special. With PT, Richard will never be confused with Rick Wakeman, but he's a genius at creating soundscapes. Colin is an excellent bassist and has an awesome bass tone, but isn't as flashy as guys like Squire and Geddy. Steven isn't a great singer and isn't a flashy guitar player (though he's certainly more than capable at both), but he's an amazing songwriter and conveys his ideas with grit and emotion. And of course, Gavin is a monster. You're right -- aside from Gavin, the other guys are not what most would consider virtuosos. But together, they are a machine. They are ridiculously tight, and are able to replicate their complicated songs live, and on most songs sound better than the record. When I talk about PT having great musicianship, that's what I'm referring to. One of the things that makes PT so good is the subtlety of their combined craft. I've spent most of my life listening to "super-talent - in - your - face musicians" like RUSH, Zep, YES, Satriani, Dream Theater, Queen, Queensryche, etc. But with PT their music, their style, their teamwork as a band is subtle. It surprises by coming at the listener from unique and unexpected directions. Their music is not necessarily demonstrative as with some bands, but it truly grabs the listeners attention. Pretty soon one finds themself going "WOW!" . . . Another one of the things I like about Wilson is that he's not an upper octave range singer like a Tate, Lee or Anderson. I tend to gravitate towards singers that have "pipes". Wilson's vocals are fare more emotive and subtle (there's that word again) than a lot of singers who are demonstrating their talent, as opposed to communicating thoughts and emotions in their songs. The more I listen to Wilson (solo) and PT combined, the more I like them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Nothing more annoying than a gateway time out when one is posting their thoughts with passion! GRRR! I'll see if I can recall my thoughts: One of the things that makes PT so fantastic is the subtlety of their craft. Back on page 50 there was a discussion about Gavin being a monster and the rest of the band being competent, but not super-musicians (contrast with RUSH, etc.). Note, my words, not the other posters, but you get the idea. I like Wilson, not because he has great pipes (as a singer) like Tate, Dio, Lee or Anderson, but because he's so emotive and communiates emotions and concepts so well. Some singers tend to blow a listener away with just how talented they are. Other singers (or bands) sneak up on you with their total approach to music. PT is not an "in-your-face" kind of band like RUSH or so many other super-groups. But what Steven, Colin, Rich and Gavin bring to the band (both together and individually) is the subtlety of great musicianship. One doesn't realize how good they are until they say, "WOW!" . . . (Not exactly what I wrote before, but it get's the point across!) LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Check it out! My original post was saved! How cool is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Okay, I started on pg. 26 and am on p. 50. That's enough for one day! And I'm basically 1/2 way there and just under a year behind in my reading! LOL! See you tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemispheresserehpsimeH Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I am LOVING Stupid Dream. Awesome record. Getting Up The Downstair next. After that, Signify and Lightbulb Sun. I love discovering new music like this. PT are insanely good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (HemispheresserehpsimeH @ Aug 12 2010, 02:08 AM) I am LOVING Stupid Dream. Awesome record. Getting Up The Downstair next. After that, Signify and Lightbulb Sun. I love discovering new music like this. PT are insanely good. LS is very close stylistically to Stupid Dream, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Does anyone not really listen to PT's lyrics? I wonder if I must be an anomaly. I think the music is outstanding and don't listen much to what the words say. Actually, I am like this with most music, even Rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees @ Aug 12 2010, 01:33 AM) Okay, I started on pg. 26 and am on p. 50. That's enough for one day! And I'm basically 1/2 way there and just under a year behind in my reading! LOL! See you tomorrow! Well you certainly have demonstrated your fanboyship to the second greatest band ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 SET LIST SPOILERS BELOW per post on the PT forum: Extended version of Even Less Great Expectations Kneel and Disconnect Drawing the line Open Car First 1/2 of Russia on Ice The Pills I've been Taking Stars Die Wedding Nails Intermission Time Flies Degree of Zero Liberty Octane Twisted The Seance Circle of Manias I Drive the Hearse Way out of here Normal Sleep Together Encore Pure Narcotic Blackest Eyes this was from the show without C&C in san fran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 Show Review: Porcupine Tree with Karnivool at The Warfield, 8/11/2010 http://spinningplatters.com/2010/08/12/sho...rfield-8112010/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian Hunter Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 (edited) Realised my mistake! That opener is AMAZING. And the encore opener is genius. Edited August 12, 2010 by Mandalorian Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (Maples Oaks and Porcupine Trees @ Aug 12 2010, 10:38 AM) Show Review: Porcupine Tree with Karnivool at The Warfield, 8/11/2010 http://spinningplatters.com/2010/08/12/sho...rfield-8112010/ I highly recommend Karnivool's CD Themata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (tangy @ Aug 12 2010, 09:21 AM)SET LIST SPOILERS BELOW set-list removed. I really want to see this show. And I love one of those encores tremendously. It hasn't been played live in a while, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullysue Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (Gompers @ Aug 12 2010, 04:03 PM) QUOTE (tangy @ Aug 12 2010, 09:21 AM)SET LIST SPOILERS BELOW set-list removed. I really want to see this show. And I love one of those encores tremendously. It hasn't been played live in a while, eh? YES!!! That first encore song???? God, how I would love to hear that live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangy Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (sullysue @ Aug 12 2010, 04:06 PM) QUOTE (Gompers @ Aug 12 2010, 04:03 PM) QUOTE (tangy @ Aug 12 2010, 09:21 AM)SET LIST SPOILERS BELOW set-list removed. I really want to see this show. And I love one of those encores tremendously. It hasn't been played live in a while, eh? YES!!! That first encore song???? God, how I would love to hear that live. Its a great set list but I have to think those of us to going to the PT/C&C gigs will get a slightly different set list. If it stayed the same I would be very happy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 http://www.blowitoutahere.com/Movies/Movie...ails&scroll=457 Am I to understand that the above contains BOTH a regular DVD and a Blu-Ray disc? Anyone here get this version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Aug 12 2010, 04:20 PM) http://www.blowitoutahere.com/Movies/Movie...ails&scroll=457 Am I to understand that the above contains BOTH a regular DVD and a Blu-Ray disc? Anyone here get this version? Yes, that's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1-0-0-1-0-0-1 Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 QUOTE (Presto-digitation @ Aug 12 2010, 05:50 PM) QUOTE (1-0-0-1-0-0-1 @ Aug 12 2010, 04:20 PM) http://www.blowitoutahere.com/Movies/Movie...ails&scroll=457 Am I to understand that the above contains BOTH a regular DVD and a Blu-Ray disc? Anyone here get this version? Yes, that's right. Sweet. Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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