We've got Rocky 6 now we're gonna have Rambo 4

[treeduck]

After finishing off with the Rocky publicity in Europe Sly Stalone is gearing up for the filming (starts Feb 28th) of the third sequel to the very good 80s thriller First Blood. After the silly sequels this franchise is pretty much a joke but here we go with Rambo IV: Pearl of the Cobra.

 

I have a soft spot for the original film because it's good and I'm a fan of David Morrell who wrote the (1972) novel. I don't know if Morrell's involved or not or whether this will be any good or not. Sly seems to have finished off the Rocky films in a good way and he's promised to finish this series off positively too. He says it's going to have a proper story like the first one and won't just be a ridiculous shoot em up like the sequels.

 

So will it be any good or not. Can it redeem the whole franchise or is it just a cynical money-making exercise?

[doubled_mystic]

I think this and Rocky Balboa are desperate attempts for Stalone to remind people that he was once a great action star and relevant. All he's doing now is making himself a joke, and by extension his previous films. If he had stopped after Copland, or done other original things, it would have been better than seeing him tarnish the great Rocky series (I-IV anyway), and now ruining Rambo......

[Necromancer]

I think the characters deserve a good finish. He succeeded with Rocky Balboa (quite well, I might add), and now it's time for him to bring the Rambo character back to its greatness as well. I wouldn't count Stallone out. He's gotten much better over the years. I don't think there'd be backing on this flick if it wasn't a winner.

[rushgoober]

*runs out to rent the first 3 Rambo movies that he never saw so he can catch up before realizing that he'd rather spend 6 hours projectile vomiting.*

[GeddyRulz]

The rest of the series was crap; this new one should be no different.

[Jack Aubrey]

If it's like the first one it should be worth watching.

[JohnnyBlaze]

Well, I thought Rocky Balboa was going to suck big time but I was completely wrong. I hope that I'm wrong about Rambo 4 also.

[Signals1982]

DIRTBAGS!!!

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 17 2007, 06:42 AM)

*runs out to rent the first 3 Rambo movies that he never saw so he can catch up before realizing that he'd rather spend 6 hours projectile vomiting.*

How much validity does this post have? I mean, the guy that made the post is a HUGE FAN of American Idol!!!

 

What does that tell you about his taste?

 

Seriously Goobs... you have one thing going for you... you SAY you like But otherwise... your taste in EVERYTHING else in entertainment... well... BLOWS!!!

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 17 2007, 04:32 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 17 2007, 06:42 AM) *runs out to rent the first 3 Rambo movies that he never saw so he can catch up before realizing that he'd rather spend 6 hours projectile vomiting.* How much validity does this post have? I mean, the guy that made the post is a HUGE FAN of American Idol!!!   What does that tell you about his taste?   Seriously Goobs... you have one thing going for you... you SAY you like But otherwise... your taste in EVERYTHING else in entertainment... well... BLOWS!!! Best to ignore him...

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jan 17 2007, 07:22 AM)

The rest of the series was crap; this new one should be no different.

Oh... how serious should we take this post from the MOVIE GESTAPO???

 

 

 

Another American Idol fan.

 

Please... when you grow any semblance of taste... come talk to us. Until then... i think all the seasons of Idol are on sale now on DVD. Go buy them and keep quiet, okay?

[Tick]

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:32 AM)

If it's like the first one it should be worth watching.

the first one is a classic ! great film.

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (tick @ Jan 17 2007, 04:36 PM)

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:32 AM) If it's like the first one it should be worth watching. the first one is a classic ! great film.   Of course it's no LORD OF THE QUIFS... but it's an amazing movie nonetheless.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jan 17 2007, 07:22 AM)

The rest of the series was crap; this new one should be no different.

I think most people agree the first film was a very good thriller which really showcased the talents of Brian Dennehy in particular. One reason it was good is that the novel it was adapted from is also good. The were no novel sequels and so the film sequels were just cash-in jobs with no real story and consequently were poor films...

[Jack Aubrey]

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 17 2007, 05:37 PM)

QUOTE (tick @ Jan 17 2007, 04:36 PM) QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:32 AM) If it's like the first one it should be worth watching. the first one is a classic ! great film.   Of course it's no LORD OF THE QUIFS... but it's an amazing movie nonetheless.   Necro's on fire today and he's taking no prisoners.

[Jack Aubrey]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jan 17 2007, 05:39 PM)

QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jan 17 2007, 07:22 AM) The rest of the series was crap; this new one should be no different. I think most people agree the first film was a very good thriller which really showcased the talents of Brian Dennehy in particular. One reason it was good is that the novel it was adapted from is also good. The were no novel sequels and so the film sequels were just cash-in jobs with no real story and consequently were poor films... Didn't Rambo die at the end of the book?

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Jan 17 2007, 04:40 PM)

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 17 2007, 05:37 PM) QUOTE (tick @ Jan 17 2007, 04:36 PM) QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Jan 17 2007, 08:32 AM) If it's like the first one it should be worth watching. the first one is a classic ! great film.   Of course it's no LORD OF THE QUIFS... but it's an amazing movie nonetheless.   Necro's on fire today and he's taking no prisoners. Sorry... I just read somewhere that people actually LIKE American Idol and it set me off.

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 17 2007, 01:32 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 17 2007, 06:42 AM) *runs out to rent the first 3 Rambo movies that he never saw so he can catch up before realizing that he'd rather spend 6 hours projectile vomiting.* How much validity does this post have? I mean, the guy that made the post is a HUGE FAN of American Idol!!!   What does that tell you about his taste?   Seriously Goobs... you have one thing going for you... you SAY you like But otherwise... your taste in EVERYTHING else in entertainment... well... BLOWS!!! Conversely, you hate Lord of the Rings, but you love Marilyn Manson, professional wrestling and, well, Rambo. You're not exactly scoring high points on the taste-o-meter in my book either buddy.   "Oooh, I can't take your opinion seriously because you like American Idol. Obviously you have no taste for quality entertainment like RAMBO."   Dude, we're talking about RAMBO! This is your benchmark for good taste?   Did I mention we're talking about RAMBO?     You enjoy your crap, and I'll enjoy mine.

Edited January 18, 2007 by rushgoober

[treeduck]

QUOTE (Jack Aubrey @ Jan 17 2007, 04:41 PM)

QUOTE (treeduck @ Jan 17 2007, 05:39 PM) QUOTE (GeddyRulz @ Jan 17 2007, 07:22 AM) The rest of the series was crap; this new one should be no different. I think most people agree the first film was a very good thriller which really showcased the talents of Brian Dennehy in particular. One reason it was good is that the novel it was adapted from is also good. The were no novel sequels and so the film sequels were just cash-in jobs with no real story and consequently were poor films... Didn't Rambo die at the end of the book? Yeah he did. Morrell apparantly talked to Stephen King around the time the film came out and King said that he'd been treated about as well as an author does by Hollywood in that the plot was recognisable. Morrell's novel had teasle as a kind of fatherly adversary who was a Korean war veteran so it was kind of a generational vibe he got going. And in the book it Rambo pretty much caused the "war" after first blood was drawn but in the film he was made out to be a victim of police brutality. And yes Rambo did indeed die in the book.   That's what I remember of the interview but here's the excerpt...   "Stephen King once told me that in the movie First Blood I had been treated about as well as Hollywood could treat a novelist inasmuch as the plot was recognizable. The only major plot change is that Rambo dies at the end of the novel and lives at the end of the movie (although a death scene was in fact filmed but not used). The interpretation of that plot is another matter. In my novel, Rambo is furious about what he's been through in Vietnam. He's confused and tormented and in many ways causes the small war that he fights. In the movie, though, he's a victim, a reluctant warrior. The film is softer than the book and has less characterization, particularly with regard to the policeman who in the novel has numerous dimensions. For one thing, he's old enough to be Rambo's father and is a war hero from Korea, elements that add strong contrast in the story."   http://www.writerswrite.com/journal/oct02/morrell.htm

[Necromancer]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 18 2007, 08:29 AM)

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 17 2007, 01:32 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 17 2007, 06:42 AM) *runs out to rent the first 3 Rambo movies that he never saw so he can catch up before realizing that he'd rather spend 6 hours projectile vomiting.* How much validity does this post have? I mean, the guy that made the post is a HUGE FAN of American Idol!!!   What does that tell you about his taste?   Seriously Goobs... you have one thing going for you... you SAY you like But otherwise... your taste in EVERYTHING else in entertainment... well... BLOWS!!! Conversely, you hate Lord of the Rings, but you love Marilyn Manson, professional wrestling and, well, Rambo. You're not exactly scoring high points on the taste-o-meter in my book either buddy.   "Oooh, I can't take your opinion seriously because you like American Idol. Obviously you have no taste for quality entertainment like RAMBO."   Dude, we're talking about RAMBO! This is your benchmark for good taste?   Did I mention we're talking about RAMBO?     You enjoy your crap, and I'll enjoy mine. I've already stated that Rambo 2 and 3 blew. But FIRST BLOOD was amazing. Everyone knows that. And since he took Rocky back to the basics and scored another winner with Rocky Balboa... i'm just betting he takes Rambo back to what made First Blood such an amazing film in the first place.   And Manson is better than ANY of that crap I've heard from YOUR collection except MUCH.   Maybe if I could just get into watching a show where we laugh at people's lack of ability or their appearance so I can feel better about myself... maybe then I'll have as much taste as you.

[liquidcrystalcompass]

Bring on the zombie

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 18 2007, 02:37 PM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 18 2007, 08:29 AM) QUOTE (Necromancer @ Jan 17 2007, 01:32 PM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jan 17 2007, 06:42 AM) *runs out to rent the first 3 Rambo movies that he never saw so he can catch up before realizing that he'd rather spend 6 hours projectile vomiting.* How much validity does this post have? I mean, the guy that made the post is a HUGE FAN of American Idol!!!   What does that tell you about his taste?   Seriously Goobs... you have one thing going for you... you SAY you like But otherwise... your taste in EVERYTHING else in entertainment... well... BLOWS!!! Conversely, you hate Lord of the Rings, but you love Marilyn Manson, professional wrestling and, well, Rambo. You're not exactly scoring high points on the taste-o-meter in my book either buddy.   "Oooh, I can't take your opinion seriously because you like American Idol. Obviously you have no taste for quality entertainment like RAMBO."   Dude, we're talking about RAMBO! This is your benchmark for good taste?   Did I mention we're talking about RAMBO?     You enjoy your crap, and I'll enjoy mine. I've already stated that Rambo 2 and 3 blew. But FIRST BLOOD was amazing. Everyone knows that. And since he took Rocky back to the basics and scored another winner with Rocky Balboa... i'm just betting he takes Rambo back to what made First Blood such an amazing film in the first place.   And Manson is better than ANY of that crap I've heard from YOUR collection except MUCH.   Maybe if I could just get into watching a show where we laugh at people's lack of ability or their appearance so I can feel better about myself... maybe then I'll have as much taste as you.     I dunno, maybe, but I doubt it!

[ReRushed]

I always thought First Blood was a very effective realistic movie, especially compared to the awful sequels. In it Rambo was a human character unlike the superhero he became in the sequels (did that come across sounding pretentious?). Anyway, it's probably Stallone's best movie. Stallone should make more movies like this and Copland. Though I hear Rocky Balboa is suprisingly good.

[treeduck]

QUOTE (liquidcrystalcompass @ Jan 18 2007, 05:51 PM)

Bring on the zombie

 

I voted for the zombie too...

[treeduck]

And of course Rambo's mentor in the story is one of our forumites here, Troutman!