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Right. And the thing is, she looks perfectly great in the original! They had to airbrush out her crow's feet, which us "normal" women have...and that tiny little bulge over the top of her sundress in the back? Puh-leeze! Look at how much thinner they made her look for the cover. Even her ARM was made to look thinner.

 

I get so sick of this mentality.

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QUOTE (EveryNerveAware @ Aug 1 2007, 04:14 PM)
QUOTE (Prime Mover and Shaker @ Jul 19 2007, 09:05 AM)
Curvy women absolutely rule.

Their bodies have everything a woman should have, IMHO.

Some of the skinny ones look like a hairless 8 year old boy from behind - yuck.

...and you know what?  I'd much rather be with a woman who can throw back a beer and an ice cream than one who refuses to eat anything other than wheat germ!!!

Curvy women rock!!!!  1022.gif

100% agreement.

 

Curvy women look much more healthy and probably have a better attitude since they aren't starving all the time! biggrin.gif

Damn straight. Women are not supposed to look like 12 year old boys with balloons in their shirts. I can't wait until the anorexic look is out.

 

Curves good! Hail damage bad. laugh.gif

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QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Aug 1 2007, 03:18 PM)
Right. And the thing is, she looks perfectly great in the original! They had to airbrush out her crow's feet, which us "normal" women have...and that tiny little bulge over the top of her sundress in the back? Puh-leeze! Look at how much thinner they made her look for the cover. Even her ARM was made to look thinner.

I get so sick of this mentality.

Frankly, I prefer the original.

 

 

 

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QUOTE (owlswing @ Aug 1 2007, 05:16 PM)
QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Aug 1 2007, 05:07 PM)
This isn't about VS, but it seems to fit the Photoshop theme.  Look at this Redbook cover featuring Faith Hill...the picture will flip back and forth between the original, unretouched photo, and what was actually USED on the cover.  See if you can spot all the "flaws" they "fixed."  eyesre4.gif

http://jezebel.com/assets/resources/2007/07/redbookcoveranime0707.gif

It's about time you see her look tired and wrinkled up like the rest of us 30 something moms! yes.gif

 

Good find GG applaudit.gif

I saw this somewhere else on the web. Rediculous.

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Victoria Secret Catalog is the only thing to keep in the bedside drawer.... its the innocence and fantasy and mystery that is sexy......... porn could go the way of the dinosaurs and i wouldnt mind....
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QUOTE (iluvgeddy05 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (owlswing @ Aug 1 2007, 05:16 PM)
QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Aug 1 2007, 05:07 PM)
This isn't about VS, but it seems to fit the Photoshop theme.  Look at this Redbook cover featuring Faith Hill...the picture will flip back and forth between the original, unretouched photo, and what was actually USED on the cover.  See if you can spot all the "flaws" they "fixed."  eyesre4.gif

http://jezebel.com/assets/resources/2007/07/redbookcoveranime0707.gif

It's about time you see her look tired and wrinkled up like the rest of us 30 something moms! yes.gif

 

Good find GG applaudit.gif

I saw this somewhere else on the web. Rediculous.

That is so not right no.gif - she is a beautiful woman without all that airbrush crap......

 

What have we become ? This is what our society deems so coveted ?

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Whether its fashion magazines, clothes, styles, diets, all that stuff, women pit themselves against each other. its female competition. guys dont have a horse in that race, so i dont think its fair to look our way.

 

in 37 years, i have never heard a male say :

 

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on designer clothes"

 

"i am not dating her, she didnt have eyeliner on"

 

"i am not dating her, she didnt have high heels"

 

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on an ann taylor top".

 

female issues with the female ideal a female problem to figure out.

 

Any male would kill to have a wife look like Faith after 3 kids......... with out the air brushing.

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QUOTE (ShaniaFanAlso @ Aug 8 2007, 07:32 PM)
Whether its fashion magazines, clothes, styles, diets, all that stuff,  women pit themselves against each other.  its female competition. guys dont have a horse in that race, so i dont think its fair to look our way.

in 37 years, i have never heard a male say :

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on designer clothes"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have eyeliner on"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have high heels"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on an ann taylor top".

female issues with the female ideal a female problem to figure out. 

Any male would kill to have a wife look like Faith after 3 kids......... with out the air brushing.

...said the man with the VS catalog in his nightstand.

 

 

dude, i'm not trying to be harsh, but please don't act like it's all in our silly little female heads.

 

 

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Oh you aren't harsh.........

 

yours is the least harsh reaction i am expecting.

 

However, through all those reactions, i still say, how wrong am i ? maybe some but not all and not even mostly...

 

 

 

 

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While I can't agree with SFA completely, I would say that the image of women portrayed in the media is not what I or any of my friends find compelling. We prefer women with curves and their backside should be larger than their breasts and their breasts should be smaller than their head. They should have thighs, a sense of humor and be as comfortable wearing a ball cap and going on a hike as dressing up to go to dinner. What the media calls imperfections are what I see to be the interesting and unique traits that makes each woman special. Give me the before Faith over the after Faith any day of the week.
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QUOTE (Rolinda Bonz @ Aug 8 2007, 10:44 PM)
QUOTE (ShaniaFanAlso @ Aug 8 2007, 07:32 PM)
Whether its fashion magazines, clothes, styles, diets, all that stuff,  women pit themselves against each other.  its female competition. guys dont have a horse in that race, so i dont think its fair to look our way.

in 37 years, i have never heard a male say :

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on designer clothes"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have eyeliner on"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have high heels"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on an ann taylor top".

female issues with the female ideal a female problem to figure out. 

Any male would kill to have a wife look like Faith after 3 kids......... with out the air brushing.

...said the man with the VS catalog in his nightstand.

 

 

dude, i'm not trying to be harsh, but please don't act like it's all in our silly little female heads.

Having majored and worked in the fashion industry before realizing how nasty it was. I need to add my two cents.

 

I think it is both males and females that make women feel they need to be this way. It's an industry built on making women feel they don't look good and need to improve therefore spending money on their products.

 

OK two more cents...When you are younger it is out there too...I see it with preteens and teens...the pressure to look perfect doesn't come from the boys it comes from your girlfriends or other girls in school.

 

It wasn't until I was older that I learned it doesn't matter. If I want a real relationship with a real man, I needed to be real too!

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I thought I'd add this in here...

 

Yesterday while at our local mall with my daughters I went into the Victoria Secret store...Free VS Signature Cotton panty give away...(make sure your signed up ladies)...well my almost 11 year old is horrified at some of the items and a few of the pictures hanging up asking how and why women could wear some of those things.

 

Well after getting to the less seductive area of apparel...things got better for her...she actually liked some nice things if I do say so my self.

 

...now we are ready to check out and on line. There are about 5 other women and one man. My 8 year old must have been looking at what everyone was buying because she turns to me and her sister and says...It's the men that like, you know that like all that ruffle stuff...see he's buying it...and points out the only man on line...I think he turned about as red as the little red lace baby-doll and thong set he was about to buy. I had to bite my lip really hard to keep from laughing rofl3.gif

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QUOTE (owlswing @ Aug 10 2007, 01:04 PM)
I thought I'd add this in here...

Yesterday while at our local mall with my daughters I went into the Victoria Secret store...Free VS Signature Cotton panty give away...(make sure your signed up ladies)...well my almost 11 year old is horrified at some of the items and a few of the pictures hanging up asking how and why women could wear some of those things.

Well after getting to the less seductive area of apparel...things got better for her...she actually liked some nice things if I do say so my self.

...now we are ready to check out and on line. There are about 5 other women and one man. My 8 year old must have been looking at what everyone was buying because she turns to me and her sister and says...It's the men that like, you know that like all that ruffle stuff...see he's buying it...and points out the only man on line...I think he turned about as red as the little red lace baby-doll and thong set he was about to buy. I had to bite my lip really hard to keep from laughing rofl3.gif

Priceless! I love it. laugh.gif

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QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Aug 10 2007, 02:46 PM)
QUOTE (owlswing @ Aug 10 2007, 01:04 PM)
I thought I'd add this in here...

Yesterday while at our local mall with my daughters I went into the Victoria Secret store...Free VS Signature Cotton panty give away...(make sure your signed up ladies)...well my almost 11 year old is horrified at some of the items and a few of the pictures hanging up asking how and why women could wear some of those things.

Well after getting to the less seductive area of apparel...things got better for her...she actually liked some nice things if I do say so my self.

...now we are ready to check out and on line. There are about 5 other women and one man. My 8 year old must have been looking at what everyone was buying because she turns to me and her sister and says...It's the men that like, you know that like all that ruffle stuff...see he's buying it...and points out the only man on line...I think he turned about as red as the little red lace baby-doll and thong set he was about to buy. I had to bite my lip really hard to keep from laughing rofl3.gif

Priceless! I love it. laugh.gif

took the words right out of my mouth GG !!!

 

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QUOTE (ShaniaFanAlso @ Aug 8 2007, 09:32 PM)
Whether its fashion magazines, clothes, styles, diets, all that stuff, women pit themselves against each other. its female competition. guys dont have a horse in that race, so i dont think its fair to look our way.

in 37 years, i have never heard a male say :

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on designer clothes"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have eyeliner on"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have high heels"

"i am not dating her, she didnt have on an ann taylor top".

female issues with the female ideal a female problem to figure out.

Any male would kill to have a wife look like Faith after 3 kids......... with out the air brushing.

The men might not have a horse in that race, but they own the track.

If you notice the VS models look just like the models in playboy. Men like to look at women with big boobs. Thanks Hef.

Women do pit themselves against each other because they want the mans attention. Ever notice certain women who make you believe they are a good caring friend, put a man in the room and the claws come out. Take out some pictures. She'll be the one in a low cut shiny blouse happily standing by men, and you will be in a concert t-shirt at the edge of the pic at the tractor pull she talked you into going to.

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QUOTE (what went wrong? @ Aug 11 2006, 11:03 PM)
Um, am I the only person of the female persuasion that absolutely despises the :boo hiss:Victoria's Secret catalogue:boo hiss:. It's borderline pornography, and it definately wasn't made for us. How are you supposed to look through it when computer-generated bimbos stare at you, with sultry eyes not meant for you? rage.gif Why do they have to send this crap to my house?!?!?! The thing is staring at me, and I can feel my self-esteem lowering every time I blink.
(This post probably should have gone to the PMS section, but I figured it's a topic unto itself.)
Thoughts?

W O W ohmy.gif

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QUOTE (Analog Kelly @ Aug 8 2007, 06:07 PM)
QUOTE (iluvgeddy05 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (owlswing @ Aug 1 2007, 05:16 PM)
QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Aug 1 2007, 05:07 PM)
This isn't about VS, but it seems to fit the Photoshop theme.  Look at this Redbook cover featuring Faith Hill...the picture will flip back and forth between the original, unretouched photo, and what was actually USED on the cover.  See if you can spot all the "flaws" they "fixed."  eyesre4.gif

http://jezebel.com/assets/resources/2007/07/redbookcoveranime0707.gif

It's about time you see her look tired and wrinkled up like the rest of us 30 something moms! yes.gif

 

Good find GG applaudit.gif

I saw this somewhere else on the web. Rediculous.

That is so not right no.gif - she is a beautiful woman without all that airbrush crap......

 

What have we become ? This is what our society deems so coveted ?

She is more beautiful untouched up.

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So Victoria sends out those little gift cards for a free pair of panties AND $10 off any bra. 653.gif Bonus!

And I'm thinkin, "what a great way to spend a lunch hour," right? confused13.gif

 

Of course, they have that little 5-for-$25 table, too. new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

 

...and what is this miracle of eyeshadow application! ohmy.gif

I'll have 2, please. cheer.gif

 

$70 later, I'm thinkin, "free panties, my ass!" angry.gif

 

imasuckerforasale b_sigh.gif

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QUOTE (Rolinda Bonz @ Aug 12 2007, 01:32 PM)
So Victoria sends out those little gift cards for a free pair of panties AND $10 off any bra.  653.gif Bonus!
And I'm thinkin, "what a great way to spend a lunch hour," right?  confused13.gif

Of course, they have that little 5-for-$25 table, too. new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif

...and what is this miracle of eyeshadow application!  ohmy.gif
I'll have 2, please.  cheer.gif

$70 later, I'm thinkin, "free panties, my ass!"  angry.gif

imasuckerforasale b_sigh.gif

rofl3.gif rofl3.gif

 

Thta's what got me there too...

 

rofl3.gif rofl3.gif

 

Worst part is EVERY time that little card comes in the mail I go right back...Yes I'm a sucker! laugh.gif

 

Now at little lesson my mom taught me...don't look at it as spending $70, look at it as if you saved (rough guess) $15. yes.gif

 

WTG!!!!!! laugh.gif

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I'm a bit of a tomboy, who has no skill with make-up and prefers to dress for comfort rather than fashion. Thus as a woman, I am virtually invisible.

 

I avoid things like shopping malls and Victoria's Secret because they make me feel like I'm barely even female.

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I'm a tomboy, too...most of the time. Every so often I get a little girly, but more often than not I dress very casually.
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QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Aug 14 2007, 11:25 AM)
I'm a tomboy, too...most of the time. Every so often I get a little girly, but more often than not I dress very casually.

yeah but what i see is that you have an innate beauty that stands out no matter if you're dressing it up girly, or dressing it down casually....

 

 

this much i know is true... yes.gif

 

 

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