KenJennings Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 With the show launching in about 12 hours, I'm getting very excited. I'll be staying up tonight to watch the moment it goes live. Season two has already been ordered, and will be including Whoopi Goldberg, presumably reprising her role as Guinan. It's also been hinted that season two could involve Worf or other TNG castmembers. Also encouraging is that season two's showrunner is a throwback to the 'Berman era' (90s) of Star Trek, who wrote and worked on some terrific episodes of Voyager and Enterprise. Despite the doubts, I'm feeling confident that this is going to be the show that sets up Star Trek's return to glory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 With the show launching in about 12 hours, I'm getting very excited. I'll be staying up tonight to watch the moment it goes live. Season two has already been ordered, and will be including Whoopi Goldberg, presumably reprising her role as Guinan. It's also been hinted that season two could involve Worf or other TNG castmembers. Also encouraging is that season two's showrunner is a throwback to the 'Berman era' (90s) of Star Trek, who wrote and worked on some terrific episodes of Voyager and Enterprise. Despite the doubts, I'm feeling confident that this is going to be the show that sets up Star Trek's return to glory. are they releasing the whole season or is it a one episode a week thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 With the show launching in about 12 hours, I'm getting very excited. I'll be staying up tonight to watch the moment it goes live. Season two has already been ordered, and will be including Whoopi Goldberg, presumably reprising her role as Guinan. It's also been hinted that season two could involve Worf or other TNG castmembers. Also encouraging is that season two's showrunner is a throwback to the 'Berman era' (90s) of Star Trek, who wrote and worked on some terrific episodes of Voyager and Enterprise. Despite the doubts, I'm feeling confident that this is going to be the show that sets up Star Trek's return to glory. are they releasing the whole season or is it a one episode a week thing? One episode a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Looking forward to this. \\//- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 With the show launching in about 12 hours, I'm getting very excited. I'll be staying up tonight to watch the moment it goes live.FREAK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Most of the whining I've been seeing is that it is 'woke' Trek. Since that is what Star Trek had always been, and is a big part of why I've always loved it, I'm optimistic. I also love Discovery, and I'm hopeful that the mistakes it did make are corrected now that they're going into the future. I've always been opposed to prequel Trek. So I'm not worried at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Most of the whining I've been seeing is that it is 'woke' Trek. The complaints about Discovery are far beyond that. Discovery failed in mission, tone and attention to detail. But the superficial wokeness was an issue. I don't think nearly so many fans would complain about a liberal or progressive narrative, if the subject matter is thoughtful and serves as a meaningful parable. If I look at Discovery, there is no political message to the series. Instead of thoughtfully advancing a classically progressive vision as previous Star Treks did, Discovery leaned on tokenism and thoughtless identitarianism. Rather than give us a moral or ethical case for equal rights or diverse thought, Discovery leaned on tropes to showcase representation. They objectified the subjects of their identity politics as badges of honor to pander to the crowd. Yes, Discovery featured the first prominent gay characters on the bridge crew of a Star Trek series; but what did it actually mean? Where was the communication, where was the discussion? If that's not an issue they feel like covering- I'm ok with that. I'm 100% on board with the representation alone. But that representation is no replacement for a parable. So what issues DID Discovery cover? Where did Discovery plant a line in the sand and make a statement of morals or ideology? I don't recall any. They paid lip service to the secular humanism of Gene Roddenberry for meaningless moments, but failed to deliver anything thoughtful. Glad to say, I don't expect that treatment from Michael Chabon and the Star Trek Picard team. I expect Picard to be challenging, thoughtful, and rhetorical. I expect it to make a case for its beliefs and stand on principle, as Jean Luc Picard always has. Edited January 23, 2020 by KenJennings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 With the show launching in about 12 hours, I'm getting very excited. I'll be staying up tonight to watch the moment it goes live.FREAK!Alright, I'm going to stay up and review this tonight for my blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 The first episode gets an 8.5/10 from me. I love the deliberate pacing. I love that there is actually a message and heart to the story. I love the feel that Patrick Stewart has brought back to Jean Luc. The small glimpses of 24th (25th?) century aesthetic we saw were visually on point. There was a little bit of ham fisted exposition to get the story set up, and that compounded the discomfort of the interview scene. I felt like that part could've been handled better. It's a lot of background to establish, and I wish they could've established it more clearly and gracefully. But outside of that misstep, I loved it. I can't wait for more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 The first episode gets an 8.5/10 from me. I love the deliberate pacing. I love that there is actually a message and heart to the story. I love the feel that Patrick Stewart has brought back to Jean Luc. The small glimpses of 24th (25th?) century aesthetic we saw were visually on point. There was a little bit of ham fisted exposition to get the story set up, and that compounded the discomfort of the interview scene. I felt like that part could've been handled better. It's a lot of background to establish, and I wish they could've established it more clearly and gracefully. But outside of that misstep, I loved it. I can't wait for more. This reviewer was not so kind Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere? https://ew.com/tv-reviews/2020/01/23/star-trek-picard-review/?did=483647-20200123&utm_campaign=ewk-tv_newsletter&utm_source=ew.com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=012320&cid=483647&mid=28918436710 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 The first episode gets an 8.5/10 from me. I love the deliberate pacing. I love that there is actually a message and heart to the story. I love the feel that Patrick Stewart has brought back to Jean Luc. The small glimpses of 24th (25th?) century aesthetic we saw were visually on point. There was a little bit of ham fisted exposition to get the story set up, and that compounded the discomfort of the interview scene. I felt like that part could've been handled better. It's a lot of background to establish, and I wish they could've established it more clearly and gracefully. But outside of that misstep, I loved it. I can't wait for more. This reviewer was not so kind Can Star Trek: Picard recover from its bafflingly bad premiere? https://ew.com/tv-re...mid=28918436710 This reviewer is more kind.https://www.papershadestudio.com/prudencio/star-trek-picard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've heard a number of complaints that Picard suffers from slow pacing... I couldn't disagree more. The deliberate pacing reminds me of a show like Better Call Saul, where the story has room to breathe and offer the attention to detail that Discovery so badly lacked as it haphazardly skipped across the touchpoints it needed to hit to stretch the plot. No, it seems that Picard is paced perfectly. And Patrick Stewart is absolutely CRUSHING IT as an actor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've heard a number of complaints that Picard suffers from slow pacing... I couldn't disagree more. The deliberate pacing reminds me of a show like Better Call Saul, where the story has room to breathe and offer the attention to detail that Discovery so badly lacked as it haphazardly skipped across the touchpoints it needed to hit to stretch the plot. No, it seems that Picard is paced perfectly. And Patrick Stewart is absolutely CRUSHING IT as an actor. I think im gonna cancel Disney and sign up for CBS all access 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemistry1973 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've heard a number of complaints that Picard suffers from slow pacing... I couldn't disagree more. The deliberate pacing reminds me of a show like Better Call Saul, where the story has room to breathe and offer the attention to detail that Discovery so badly lacked as it haphazardly skipped across the touchpoints it needed to hit to stretch the plot. No, it seems that Picard is paced perfectly. And Patrick Stewart is absolutely CRUSHING IT as an actor. I think im gonna cancel Disney and sign up for CBS all access Me too - no new Mando until next year so... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I've heard a number of complaints that Picard suffers from slow pacing... I couldn't disagree more. The deliberate pacing reminds me of a show like Better Call Saul, where the story has room to breathe and offer the attention to detail that Discovery so badly lacked as it haphazardly skipped across the touchpoints it needed to hit to stretch the plot. No, it seems that Picard is paced perfectly. And Patrick Stewart is absolutely CRUSHING IT as an actor. I think im gonna cancel Disney and sign up for CBS all access Me too - no new Mando until next year so... yep. plus Ive never seen any Star Trek Discovery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Star Trek Picard opens with a whimsical scene of fan service. A welcome mat for fans of Star Trek: The Next Generation that may have tuned out of Discovery...4 stars out of 5.https://www.papershadestudio.com/prudencio/star-trek-picard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosher Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) I loved this first episode, and though I disagree with Ken on Discovery, I pretty much agree on all points with Picard. I expect the clunkiness to fade now that the opening exposition is done. Edited January 24, 2020 by Mosher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 I can't stand any Star Trek after the original and a few of the movies. But Picard was always amazing.I was just in Thunder Valley Casino a few nights ago. I won a couple grand on slots.I got to my room at 3 AM.Had an iced tea, some cheese and crackers and watched a Next Generation episode. Something I never do.It was about Picard getting a one week break from running the ship.Picard went to some exotic planet. Met some cute chick and still had some drama to deal with.I actually enjoyed the show. Picard is a Legend. I know he's in XMEN too but wasn't he on KQED Channel 9 decades ago.Great actor. Amazing dude!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 (edited) I can't stand any Star Trek after the original and a few of the movies. But Picard was always amazing.I was just in Thunder Valley Casino a few nights ago. I won a couple grand on slots.I got to my room at 3 AM.Had an iced tea, some cheese and crackers and watched a Next Generation episode. Something I never do.It was about Picard getting a one week break from running the ship.Picard went to some exotic planet. Met some cute chick and still had some drama to deal with.I actually enjoyed the show. Picard is a Legend. I know he's in XMEN too but wasn't he on KQED Channel 9 decades ago.Great actor. Amazing dude!!He's a bit of a leftie luvvie though Earl who wants a socialist future! https://www.breitbar...ompletely-fked/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=p42Zmtd5Ge0&feature=emb_logo Edited January 24, 2020 by treeduck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Watched it. Enjoyed it very much. I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grep Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 Nice. I have spoken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 Episode two did a great job showcasing just how much the Starfleet leadership has changed (perhaps infiltrated). I'm getting definite callbacks to Season 4 of Enterprise. Except instead of Vulcan High Command being corrupted, this time it's Starfleet itself- the inclusion of a Vulcan kir'shara on the desk of the Vulcan commodore seems a hidden callback to that storyline. We find out that Picard's dealing with borrowed time because of "a defect in his parietal lobe". This calls back to the TNG finalé "All Good Things", where he dealt with that issue in his future incarnations. Perhaps setting up an opportunity for Q to eventually step in? Still very excited to see where this goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I can't stand any Star Trek after the original and a few of the movies. But Picard was always amazing.I was just in Thunder Valley Casino a few nights ago. I won a couple grand on slots.I got to my room at 3 AM.Had an iced tea, some cheese and crackers and watched a Next Generation episode. Something I never do.It was about Picard getting a one week break from running the ship.Picard went to some exotic planet. Met some cute chick and still had some drama to deal with.I actually enjoyed the show. Picard is a Legend. I know he's in XMEN too but wasn't he on KQED Channel 9 decades ago.Great actor. Amazing dude!!He's a bit of a leftie luvvie though Earl who wants a socialist future! https://www.breitbar...ompletely-fked/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=p42Zmtd5Ge0&feature=emb_logo I can always rely on you Pat to set me straight. No idea about his suicidal socialist septum! The Ultra Rich with an Ultra Liberal Ideal kill me. Cool. Let Patrick Stewart pay for both of my daughters college!! YAHOOOOO!!! COLLEGE FOR FREE!!!A CHICKEN IN EVERY POT!POLE POT!!!A KID IN EVERY DESK!!! Let the ultra rich pay for the poor!!! LOVE YOU PAT! FUKK VANILLA WHITE "SCONE" I WILL NEVER JOIN!!! FUCKK STAR TREKKKKKK It's all about STAR WARS! You don't like that SAGA either Pat. LOL! Signed, "WORLDS APART" HAHAHA! I kill me.................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I'm voting for Elisabeth Warren! LOL! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Picard is a Penis Head. Signed, Rushhead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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