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According to the NASCAR on FOX facebook page..."NASCAR is reportedly exploring the removal of jackmen from pit stops in favor of an attached air-jack system"

 

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Like Indy cars?

 

I guess it doesn't really matter as long as its the same for everyone. I wonder if it will help pit times?

I didn't see much else about it but I assume it would be like Indy cars. I would think it might take a second off the pit times (at least for four tire stops, and maybe half that for two right sides) and make for fewer mistakes, at least once teams got used to it. The tire changers wouldn't have to wait for the jackman to run around the car.

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That Almirola wreck was nasty. Hoping for the best there. Weird situation though.   One thing is for sure, they need to stop interviewing Danica after a wreck. She does not have the temperament to han

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I miss the Fox announcers! The NBC guys just are never as good. And while I'm typing this they miss a large collision . . .

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Tony Stewart won titles in Indycar and NASCAR. That's the only full fledged champion in both open wheel and stock car racing I can think of.   Unless you want to consider sprint cars 'open wheel' (whi

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Bring a race car driver is dangerous. Being a pit crew member is dangerous.

 

Reducing danger is a noble goal, but the primary goal is to play a specific game. I don't want to see the change that much. I don't want to see a skillet within the sport eliminated in the name of safety.

 

At what point do we replace driver controller cars with remote control cars? Changing the game in the name of safety is a big ask.

 

I guess I would ask all the Jackmen in the sport what they want.

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Bring a race car driver is dangerous. Being a pit crew member is dangerous.

 

Reducing danger is a noble goal, but the primary goal is to play a specific game. I don't want to see the change that much. I don't want to see a skillet within the sport eliminated in the name of safety.

 

At what point do we replace driver controller cars with remote control cars? Changing the game in the name of safety is a big ask.

 

I guess I would ask all the Jackmen in the sport what they want.

After thinking about it for a bit I kind of agree with you. I don't really want them to change the sport that much.
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Bring a race car driver is dangerous. Being a pit crew member is dangerous.

 

Reducing danger is a noble goal, but the primary goal is to play a specific game. I don't want to see the change that much. I don't want to see a skillet within the sport eliminated in the name of safety.

 

At what point do we replace driver controller cars with remote control cars? Changing the game in the name of safety is a big ask.

 

I guess I would ask all the Jackmen in the sport what they want.

Since it sounds like the proposal would make their jobs disappear, I would think that the answer to what they want might tend toward unanimity.

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Bring a race car driver is dangerous. Being a pit crew member is dangerous.

 

Reducing danger is a noble goal, but the primary goal is to play a specific game. I don't want to see the change that much. I don't want to see a skillet within the sport eliminated in the name of safety.

 

At what point do we replace driver controller cars with remote control cars? Changing the game in the name of safety is a big ask.

 

I guess I would ask all the Jackmen in the sport what they want.

Since it sounds like the proposal would make their jobs disappear, I would think that the answer to what they want might tend toward unanimity.

Pit strategy and execution is a big part of the sport and equalizing aspects of pit road execution lessens its importance. I like the idea of the whole team having to execute for the team to be successful.

 

Plus, how many people have been seriously injured or killed working pit road at a NASCAR event? I can't think of one in the recent past. Why try and solve a problem that isn't even really a problem?

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Pit strategy and execution is a big part of the sport and equalizing aspects of pit road execution lessens its importance. I like the idea of the whole team having to execute for the team to be successful.

 

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According to the NASCAR on FOX facebook page..."NASCAR is reportedly exploring the removal of jackmen from pit stops in favor of an attached air-jack system"

 

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Dislike intensely. Let the pantywaists at Indy car have their air jackoff system. Tire changing is an integral part of the pit stop, which is an integral part of the race. Leave it be. Edited by pjbear05
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I know I'm not in the pool and therefore don't have any constraints on who I can pick but I think Logano will win, just to piss me off.
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I know I'm not in the pool and therefore don't have any constraints on who I can pick but I think Logano will win, just to piss me off.

This has not been his year.

But one win and you're right back in it. That's the thing I don't like about the format. Too much emphasis on winning. ;)

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Week 24 Standings (Bristol)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/4880/yYVltC.png Ryan Newman P1 - blueschika - 771 Points (3 wins)

Used: Brad Keselowski (24), Kevin Harvick (43), Martin Truex (60), Kyle Larson (53), Denny Hamlin (26), Kyle Busch (52), Jamie McMurray (46), Chase Elliott (35), Joey Logano (42), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Ryan Blaney (51), Matt Kenseth (55), Jimmie Johnson (55), Kurt Busch (40), Clint Bowyer (22), AJ Allmendinger (11), Kasey Kahne (23). Daniel Suarez (19), Erik Jones (1), Ricky Stenhouse (2), Chris Buescher (9), Paul Menard (19), Austin Dillon (30), Ryan Newman (38)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher P2 - thesweetscience - 734 Points (3 wins)

Used: Clint Bowyer (9), Chase Elliott (49), Martin Truex (60), Ryan Blaney (21), Erik Jones (34), Kyle Busch (52), Jimmie Johnson (49), Kasey Kahne (17), Denny Hamlin (47), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Joey Logano (0), Matt Kenseth (55), Daniel Suarez (27), Kyle Larson (47), Jamie McMurray (32), AJ Allmendinger (11), Ricky Stenhouse (40), Kurt Busch (11), Brad Keselowski (28), Ryan Newman (34), Trevor Bayne (20), Michael McDowell (25), Kevin Harvick (41), Chris Buescher (10)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher Chase Cutoff - RacerX - 731 Points (2 wins)

Used: Chase Elliott (23), Kevin Harvick (48), Brad Keselowski (48), Joey Logano (16), Kyle Larson (59), Martin Truex (31), Clint Bowyer (30), Ryan Blaney (4), Matt Kenseth (33), Ricky Stenhouse (49), Kyle Busch (48), Erik Jones (39), Daniel Suarez (32), Kurt Busch (40), Denny Hamlin (44), Jamie McMurray (27), Kasey Kahne (23), Jimmie Johnson (3), Matt DiBenedetto (7), Ryan Newman (34), Michael McDowell (21), AJ Allmendinger (32), Austin Dillon (30), Chris Buescher (10)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img13/63/42montoya.png Kyle Larson P3 - KenJennings - 731 Points

Used: Austin Dillon (18), Kevin Harvick (43), Ryan Blaney (43), Dale Earnhardt Jr (24), Matt Kenseth (1), Clint Bowyer (31), Brad Keselowski (40), Daniel Suarez (19), Ricky Stenhouse (33), Jamie McMurray (36), Kyle Busch (48), Martin Truex (60), Erik Jones (27), Kurt Busch (40), Denny Hamlin (44), AJ Allmendinger (11), Ty Dillon (24), Joey Logano (29), Kasey Kahne (14), Paul Menard (21), Michael McDowell (21), Chris Buescher (26), Chase Elliott (37), Kyle Larson (41)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/3307/45LnjM.png Austin Dillon P4 - Mr. Blues - 729 Points (3 wins)

Used: Danica Patrick (11), Kevin Harvick (43), Chase Elliott (47), Dale Earnhardt Jr (24), Kyle Larson (60), Denny Hamlin (16), Ryan Blaney (45), Jimmie Johnson (54), Martin Truex (35), Brad Keselowski (40), Joey Logano (2), Kyle Busch (61), Kurt Busch (1), Bubba Wallace (11), Clint Bowyer (22), Jamie McMurray (27), Ricky Stenhouse (40), Matt Kenseth (33), Kasey Kahne (14), Ryan Newman (34), Daniel Suarez (30), AJ Allmendinger (32), Erik Jones (47), Austin Dillon (1)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/2386/WtiTQm.png Matt DiBenedetto P5 - Cygnus 2112 - 727 Points (3 wins)

Used: Chase Elliott (18), Brad Keselowski (53), Martin Truex (60), Kyle Larson (53), Erik Jones (34), Ryan Newman (29), Kyle Busch (23), Jimmie Johnson (54), Ricky Stenhouse (33), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Ryan Blaney (51), Kevin Harvick (36), Kurt Busch (1), Matt Kenseth (31), Clint Bowyer (17), Denny Hamlin (46), Joey Logano (8), Jamie McMurray (41), AJ Allmendinger (16), Danica Patrick (26), Aric Almirola (1), Daniel Suarez (39), Chris Buescher (31), Matt DiBenedetto (11)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher P6 - Pressure/Hopenoses - 689 Points (1 win)

Used: Kevin Harvick (34), Brad Keselowski (53), Joey Logano (39), Ryan Blaney (21), Denny Hamlin (26), Kyle Busch (52), Chase Elliott (34), Clint Bowyer (35), Matt Kenseth (33), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Jimmie Johnson (18), Martin Truex (60), Kyle Larson (50), Ryan Newman (40), Kasey Kahne (16), Kurt Busch (30), Austin Dillon (1), Jamie McMurray (41), Erik Jones (1), Ricky Stenhouse (2), Daniel Suarez (30), AJ Allmendinger (32), Ty Dillon (16), Chris Buescher (10)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img13/63/42montoya.png Kyle Larson P7 - pjbear05 - 626 Points

Used: Jamie McMurray (13), Martin Truex (43), Kurt Busch (7), Chase Elliott (42), Dale Earnhardt Jr (21), Jimmie Johnson (32), Matt Kenseth (21), Kyle Busch (3), Clint Bowyer (27), Daniel Suarez (18), Brad Keselowski (41), Ryan Blaney (17), Paul Menard (4), Kevin Harvick (51), Ryan Newman (22), Joey Logano (36), Kasey Kahne (23), Erik Jones (40), AJ Allmendinger (16), Danica Patrick (26), Denny Hamlin (37), Chris Buescher (26), Ricky Stenhouse (19), Kyle Larson (31)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher P8 - Fordgalaxy - 590 Points (2 wins)

Used: Brad Keselowski (24), Ricky Stenhouse (28), Martin Truex (60), Dale Earnhardt Jr (24), Kyle Larson (59), Clint Bowyer (31), Joey Logano (36), Ryan Blaney (4), Kevin Harvick (47), Denny Hamlin (36), Kyle Busch (48), Chase Elliott (1), Kurt Busch (1), Jamie McMurray (3), Matt Kenseth (39), Danica Patrick (20), Kasey Kahne (23), Jimmie Johnson (3), Erik Jones (0), Daniel Suarez (30), Matt DiBenedetto (1), Ryan Newman (12), Austin Dillon (30), Chris Buescher (5), Trevor Bayne (30)

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Available Drivers for weeks 25 and 26:

 

blueschika

A Dillon

Almirola

Bayne

DiBenedetto

McDowell

Patrick

T Dillon

 

thesweetscience

A Dillon

Almirola

DiBenedetto

Menard

Patrick

T Dillon

 

RacerX

A Dillon

Almirola

Bayne

Earnhardt

Menard

Patrick

T Dillon

 

KenJennings

A Dillon

Almirola

Bayne

DiBenedetto

Johnson

Newman

Patrick

 

Mr. Blues

A Dillon

Almirola

Bayne

Buescher

DiBenedetto

McDowell

Menard

T Dillon

 

Cygnus 2112

A Dillon

Bayne

Kahne

McDowell

Menard

T Dillon

 

Pressure/Hopenosis

A Dillon

Almirola

Bayne

DiBenedetto

McDowell

Menard

Patrick

 

pjbear05

A Dillon

Almirola

Bayne

DiBenedetto

McDowell

T Dillon

 

fordgalaxy

A Dillon

Allmendinger

Almirola

Buescher

McDowell

Menard

T Dillon

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Going with "Clever" Trevor Bayne at the world's fastest half mile.

Week 24 Standings (Bristol)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/4880/yYVltC.png Ryan Newman P1 - blueschika - 771 Points (3 wins)

Used: Brad Keselowski (24), Kevin Harvick (43), Martin Truex (60), Kyle Larson (53), Denny Hamlin (26), Kyle Busch (52), Jamie McMurray (46), Chase Elliott (35), Joey Logano (42), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Ryan Blaney (51), Matt Kenseth (55), Jimmie Johnson (55), Kurt Busch (40), Clint Bowyer (22), AJ Allmendinger (11), Kasey Kahne (23). Daniel Suarez (19), Erik Jones (1), Ricky Stenhouse (2), Chris Buescher (9), Paul Menard (19), Austin Dillon (30), Ryan Newman (38)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher P2 - thesweetscience - 734 Points (3 wins)

Used: Clint Bowyer (9), Chase Elliott (49), Martin Truex (60), Ryan Blaney (21), Erik Jones (34), Kyle Busch (52), Jimmie Johnson (49), Kasey Kahne (17), Denny Hamlin (47), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Joey Logano (0), Matt Kenseth (55), Daniel Suarez (27), Kyle Larson (47), Jamie McMurray (32), AJ Allmendinger (11), Ricky Stenhouse (40), Kurt Busch (11), Brad Keselowski (28), Ryan Newman (34), Trevor Bayne (20), Michael McDowell (25), Kevin Harvick (41), Chris Buescher (10)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher Chase Cutoff - RacerX - 731 Points (2 wins)

Used: Chase Elliott (23), Kevin Harvick (48), Brad Keselowski (48), Joey Logano (16), Kyle Larson (59), Martin Truex (31), Clint Bowyer (30), Ryan Blaney (4), Matt Kenseth (33), Ricky Stenhouse (49), Kyle Busch (48), Erik Jones (39), Daniel Suarez (32), Kurt Busch (40), Denny Hamlin (44), Jamie McMurray (27), Kasey Kahne (23), Jimmie Johnson (3), Matt DiBenedetto (7), Ryan Newman (34), Michael McDowell (21), AJ Allmendinger (32), Austin Dillon (30), Chris Buescher (10)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img13/63/42montoya.png Kyle Larson P3 - KenJennings - 731 Points

Used: Austin Dillon (18), Kevin Harvick (43), Ryan Blaney (43), Dale Earnhardt Jr (24), Matt Kenseth (1), Clint Bowyer (31), Brad Keselowski (40), Daniel Suarez (19), Ricky Stenhouse (33), Jamie McMurray (36), Kyle Busch (48), Martin Truex (60), Erik Jones (27), Kurt Busch (40), Denny Hamlin (44), AJ Allmendinger (11), Ty Dillon (24), Joey Logano (29), Kasey Kahne (14), Paul Menard (21), Michael McDowell (21), Chris Buescher (26), Chase Elliott (37), Kyle Larson (41)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/3307/45LnjM.png Austin Dillon P4 - Mr. Blues - 729 Points (3 wins)

Used: Danica Patrick (11), Kevin Harvick (43), Chase Elliott (47), Dale Earnhardt Jr (24), Kyle Larson (60), Denny Hamlin (16), Ryan Blaney (45), Jimmie Johnson (54), Martin Truex (35), Brad Keselowski (40), Joey Logano (2), Kyle Busch (61), Kurt Busch (1), Bubba Wallace (11), Clint Bowyer (22), Jamie McMurray (27), Ricky Stenhouse (40), Matt Kenseth (33), Kasey Kahne (14), Ryan Newman (34), Daniel Suarez (30), AJ Allmendinger (32), Erik Jones (47), Austin Dillon (1)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/2386/WtiTQm.png Matt DiBenedetto P5 - Cygnus 2112 - 727 Points (3 wins)

Used: Chase Elliott (18), Brad Keselowski (53), Martin Truex (60), Kyle Larson (53), Erik Jones (34), Ryan Newman (29), Kyle Busch (23), Jimmie Johnson (54), Ricky Stenhouse (33), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Ryan Blaney (51), Kevin Harvick (36), Kurt Busch (1), Matt Kenseth (31), Clint Bowyer (17), Denny Hamlin (46), Joey Logano (8), Jamie McMurray (41), AJ Allmendinger (16), Danica Patrick (26), Aric Almirola (1), Daniel Suarez (39), Chris Buescher (31), Matt DiBenedetto (11)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher P6 - Pressure/Hopenoses - 689 Points (1 win)

Used: Kevin Harvick (34), Brad Keselowski (53), Joey Logano (39), Ryan Blaney (21), Denny Hamlin (26), Kyle Busch (52), Chase Elliott (34), Clint Bowyer (35), Matt Kenseth (33), Dale Earnhardt Jr (15), Jimmie Johnson (18), Martin Truex (60), Kyle Larson (50), Ryan Newman (40), Kasey Kahne (16), Kurt Busch (30), Austin Dillon (1), Jamie McMurray (41), Erik Jones (1), Ricky Stenhouse (2), Daniel Suarez (30), AJ Allmendinger (32), Ty Dillon (16), Chris Buescher (10)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img13/63/42montoya.png Kyle Larson P7 - pjbear05 - 626 Points

Used: Jamie McMurray (13), Martin Truex (43), Kurt Busch (7), Chase Elliott (42), Dale Earnhardt Jr (21), Jimmie Johnson (32), Matt Kenseth (21), Kyle Busch (3), Clint Bowyer (27), Daniel Suarez (18), Brad Keselowski (41), Ryan Blaney (17), Paul Menard (4), Kevin Harvick (51), Ryan Newman (22), Joey Logano (36), Kasey Kahne (23), Erik Jones (40), AJ Allmendinger (16), Danica Patrick (26), Denny Hamlin (37), Chris Buescher (26), Ricky Stenhouse (19), Kyle Larson (31)

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/3930/LbnMWY.png Chris Buescher P8 - Fordgalaxy - 565 Points (-5 late pick) (2 wins)

Used: Brad Keselowski (24), Ricky Stenhouse (28), Martin Truex (60), Dale Earnhardt Jr (24), Kyle Larson (59), Clint Bowyer (31), Joey Logano (36), Ryan Blaney (4), Kevin Harvick (47), Denny Hamlin (36), Kyle Busch (48), Chase Elliott (1), Kurt Busch (1), Jamie McMurray (3), Matt Kenseth (39), Danica Patrick (20), Kasey Kahne (23), Jimmie Johnson (3), Erik Jones (0), Daniel Suarez (30), Matt DiBenedetto (1), Ryan Newman (12), Austin Dillon (30), Chris Buescher (5)

 

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I'm going to be spending some time with Elliott Sadler later this afternoon. He's stopping by my office on his way to Road America, I can't wait to meet him.

 

Looks like rain is forecast for Sunday's Xfinity race, could be a wild one.

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http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9797/VkPes9.jpg

 

Just met with Elliott, and talked to him a bit about this weekends race. He said he likes his chances to be competitive at Road America, but isn't looking forward to racing in the rain. Great guy, good sense of humor, very engaging.

 

I got him to sign an old Wood Bros 21 diecast that I had in a box of my old NASCAR stuff from when I used to collect them.

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/4639/y1MiQV.jpg

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http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9797/VkPes9.jpg

 

Just met with Elliott, and talked to him a bit about this weekends race. He said he likes his chances to be competitive at Road America, but isn't looking forward to racing in the rain. Great guy, good sense of humor, very engaging.

 

I got him to sign an old Wood Bros 21 diecast that I had in a box of my old NASCAR stuff from when I used to collect them.

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/4639/y1MiQV.jpg

 

Very cool. He always seemed like a really good guy to me. Glad to hear that's the case.

 

I wonder what his feeling is about getting back to Cup. He's alone of the Busch guys in terms of being a long time Cup driver with a Busch ride, in a competitive car. My guess is that he probably thinks he's in a good place with competitive cars and the ability to compete. I don't think there's much choice of anyone over about 21 getting a competitive Cup ride so he's probably resigned to it either way but you have to believe he's enjoying it.

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http://imageshack.com/a/img924/9797/VkPes9.jpg

 

Just met with Elliott, and talked to him a bit about this weekends race. He said he likes his chances to be competitive at Road America, but isn't looking forward to racing in the rain. Great guy, good sense of humor, very engaging.

 

I got him to sign an old Wood Bros 21 diecast that I had in a box of my old NASCAR stuff from when I used to collect them.

 

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/4639/y1MiQV.jpg

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