bluefox4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Why is pop so looked down on, lol. It's not like Gabriel era ∂didn't have pop elements. Oh that's right it's gabriel so we'll conveniently let that slide. lol. Mick
waluigithewalrus Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Why is pop so looked down on, lol. It's not like Gabriel era ∂didn't have pop elements. Oh that's right it's gabriel so we'll conveniently let that slide. lol. Mick It's not really that I look down on pop, it's just that I prefer more complex stuff than a lot of what just straight pop has to offer. And it's absolutely true that most prog has at least some elements of pop to it. 2
bluefox4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Why is pop so looked down on, lol. It's not like Gabriel era ∂didn't have pop elements. Oh that's right it's gabriel so we'll conveniently let that slide. lol. Mick It's not really that I look down on pop, it's just that I prefer more complex stuff than a lot of what just straight pop has to offer. And it's absolutely true that most prog has at least some elements of pop to it. i was just fooling around, lol. But yea......time Table, I know What I like, Carpet Crawlers, Counting out time......pop tunes, lol Mick
waluigithewalrus Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Why is pop so looked down on, lol. It's not like Gabriel era ∂didn't have pop elements. Oh that's right it's gabriel so we'll conveniently let that slide. lol. Mick It's not really that I look down on pop, it's just that I prefer more complex stuff than a lot of what just straight pop has to offer. And it's absolutely true that most prog has at least some elements of pop to it. i was just fooling around, lol. But yea......time Table, I know What I like, Carpet Crawlers, Counting out time......pop tunes, lol Mick No, no....okay, maybe they are :D 1
custom55 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I grew up with Gabriel/Genesis and I did enjoy Trick of the Tail but after that...? I saw both versions of Genesis in concert and for me, Gabriel. No Gabriel, no Genesis for me. 2
Red Dwarf Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 No vote -- love both eras equally. I've loved this band since 1980,and for me i can't split either of the two.Genesis moved with the changing times during the eighties,with the drum machine,and synthesizers,and very much like Rush and Yes,created a different and new sound for that era.The seventies were different then,and acoustic guitar,and the mellotron,were the order of the day.So for me both Gabriel's and Collins era Genesis are quite different ,but equally very enjoyable. 1
The Cat 3 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Bring it on, but I happen to think "...And Then There Were Three" is the best Genesis album. 1
treeduck Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 Bring it on, but I happen to think "...And Then There Were Three" is the best Genesis album. I really like that album these days. I was listening to it the other day and thinking it seems a better album these days. 1
bluefox4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I think Duke is one of the most perfect prog/pop rock albums ever Mick 1
The Cat 3 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 But I do prefer solo Gabriel over solo Collins. My preference as well. 1
bluefox4000 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Funny thing......gabriel never blew me away in the band. I started his solo career. It was like.........WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED??!!! lol something clicked with this guy after he quit the group. 4 perfect albums in a row........after Genesis, lol Mick
bathory Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 I like prog rock and not disney music, so I choose...
bathory Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 a trick of the tail and wind & wuthering are pretty great albums, though. duke's solid. you can probably find 5 or 6 good songs total on ATTW3, abacab, s/t, and we can't dance. everything else from the collins era is zzzz. and I love rush's pussy records, as well as kate bush and peter gabriel, so I have no bias against pop music.
treeduck Posted February 10, 2015 Author Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I think Duke is one of the most perfect prog/pop rock albums ever MickAn even the pop songs on that album have crazy time signatures and arrangements! "Turn It On Again" is a single from the British progressive rock band Genesis, from their 1980 album Duke. It reached number 8 in the UK Singles Chart.The lyrics, written by Mike Rutherford, deal with a man who does nothing more than watch his television, so much that he becomes obsessed with the people he watches on it, believing them to be his friends. The song is also characterised by a rhythmic structure uncharacteristically complex for pop music, with verse/chorus sections in alternating time signatures, 6/4 to 7/4 (13/4), while the intro and bridge sections are in 4/4 and 5/4 (9/4). The song was originally much slower, written mostly by Mike Rutherford, with help from Phil Collins. He explains in the Songbook DVD "I had this riff," (plays "Turn It On Again" riff on guitar) "but at the time I was playing it like this," (plays slower) "and Phil said 'why don't you try it in a faster speed' and then he said to me 'do you realize it is in 13/8' and I said 'What do you mean it's in 13? It's in 4/4 isn't it?' 'No, it's 13'" Collins confirms "You can't dance to it. You see people trying to dance to it every now and again, they get on the off beat but they don't know why." Edited February 10, 2015 by treeduck 1
Rod in Toronto Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 No option to vote for Calling All Stations??? :drool: :drool: :drool: 3
greg2112 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Bring it on, but I happen to think "...And Then There Were Three" is the best Genesis album. I really like that album these days. I was listening to it the other day and thinking it seems a better album these days. Very underrated. Sure its a step down from ToTT/WW, but its a melodic, ambient at times, album. Like it almost top to bottom. 1
Your_Lion Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 For me, it doesn't come down to Gabriel vs. Collins....it comes down to With Steve Hackett vs. Without Steve Hackett...and the answer for me is With Steve Hackett all the way :guitar: 6
pip65 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 For me, it doesn't come down to Gabriel vs. Collins....it comes down to With Steve Hackett vs. Without Steve Hackett...and the answer for me is With Steve Hackett all the way :guitar:I tend to agree. I like pre and post Gabriel and pre and post Hackett Genesis, but for me the departure of Steve Hackett was a far greater loss than that of Peter Gabriel. IMO 'And Then There Were Three' is one of their weakest albums, it's as if they didn't quite know what to do without him. 2
BigBob Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Collins. From Trick of the Tail to We Can't Dance. All those albums are great. Their live albums in that period are phenominal. I pefer Collins singing Supper's Ready than Gabireal
bluefox4000 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Did i mention seconds Out is one of my fav live albums.......again sans Gabriel so.....lol Collins was awesome in Genesis........bullshit wimpy solo output aside. Mick
bluefox4000 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Collins I agree with BlueFox ! It's the only correct answer. if not you've been blinded by Peter and his self important artsy fartsy nonsense, lol Mick, Edited February 11, 2015 by bluefox4000
Digital Dad Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 No option to vote for Calling All Stations??? :drool: :drool: :drool: Haha. CAS is a good album with about 3or 4 great tunes that stack up against anything in the catalog. 3 or 4 clunkers tho. Solid record. Criminally underated.
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