Rod in Toronto Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 I just heard this song this morning: - this is the video edit, so it´s kinda butchered...but tell me that the growling vocals do not fit in at 02:50, for example. I think it´s great, and one of their best songs IMO.
Nate2112 Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 OP is ignorance at its finest I wouldn't call it ignorance but just inexperience.
Akron162 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Posted March 23, 2013 OP is ignorance at its finest I wouldn't call it ignorance but just inexperience. Believe me, i have plenty of experience. Thats why i dont like it.
Akron162 Posted March 23, 2013 Author Posted March 23, 2013 I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now. This sounds like it belongs on the Dream Theater thread. I like James' voice but it's the same argument a lot of people have with them too. What are you talking about, LaBrie is awesome.
Maverick Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now. This sounds like it belongs on the Dream Theater thread. I like James' voice but it's the same argument a lot of people have with them too. What are you talking about, LaBrie is awesome. To your ears. I tried and tried and tried to like DT, but his voice just kills it for me. I gave up years ago.
Rod in Toronto Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I can understand that...I love DT, but some of James' vocals are cringeworthy, especially live.
PolarizeMe Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 (edited) I can understand that...I love DT, but some of James' vocals are cringeworthy, especially live.Toronto '04 and Download Festival '09 are probably his two worst performances IMO...especially his performance on A Change of Seasons during the Toronto '04 show. He's been a hit or miss live for almost his entire career, but it wasn't until Mike Mangini's arrival though, where James has been pretty consistent live...at least that's how I feel based on the videos from the last tour. Edited March 24, 2013 by PolarizeMe
Rod in Toronto Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Once in a Livetime is terrible as well. And yes, I think he's getting more consistent, it seems he's learned his limitations. For example, they don't play the mid section of Take the Time anymore, he can't handle it. And each Dt record has been composed on lower keys and octaves than their predecessors, since at least Six Degrees.
Del_Duio Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 (edited) He sounds GREAT on Score though. Really, really good. If you notice the new preview for the live DVD coming out there's not a single shot / clip of James singing anywhere on it. I hope that's not a bad omen. At least in the studio he still nails it. SUNNNNN... COME SHINE MY WAAAAYYY...MAKE HEALING WATERS BURY ALL MY PAINNNNN.... He kills it on Bridges in the Sky, one of DT's best songs period IMO. Edited March 25, 2013 by Del_Duio 1
Del_Duio Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now. This sounds like it belongs on the Dream Theater thread. I like James' voice but it's the same argument a lot of people have with them too. What are you talking about, LaBrie is awesome. Oh I think so too, it's just that his live voice doesn't consistently hold up too well. And in a band like that- where everybody's a friggin' master of their instruments, people notice and to some it detracts from DT as a whole.
Rod in Toronto Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now. This sounds like it belongs on the Dream Theater thread. I like James' voice but it's the same argument a lot of people have with them too. What are you talking about, LaBrie is awesome. Oh I think so too, it's just that his live voice doesn't consistently hold up too well. And in a band like that- where everybody's a friggin' master of their instruments, people notice and to some it detracts from DT as a whole. You guys do know the origin of his voice problems, right? He had food poisoning and ruptured his vocal cords while vomiting. But check him out on DT´s Live in Tokyo, before it happened - he´s spot on and singing sky high!
Del_Duio Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now. This sounds like it belongs on the Dream Theater thread. I like James' voice but it's the same argument a lot of people have with them too. What are you talking about, LaBrie is awesome. Oh I think so too, it's just that his live voice doesn't consistently hold up too well. And in a band like that- where everybody's a friggin' master of their instruments, people notice and to some it detracts from DT as a whole. You guys do know the origin of his voice problems, right? He had food poisoning and ruptured his vocal cords while vomiting. But check him out on DT´s Live in Tokyo, before it happened - he´s spot on and singing sky high! Yeah, I do know the food poisoning story I guess it happened sometime after Awake was recorded (or was released). The problem with that story is- and I hate to say it- but he's gone on to sing just fine on live stuff like Metropolis 2000 and the aforementioned Score. So was it really due to the food poisoning or is it more due to JLB just getting older? Petrucci can always go buy another guitar if his breaks, but James only has his one voice. Even our Geddy's age has taken a big toll on his voice :(
ILSnwdog Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Ive never listened to Opeth, not once, not even by accident, not one song. But i was reading how they are one of the biggest exponents of the progressive metal in the last 20 years or so. So i said, "meeeh, why not..." and looked for one of their cited songs: "Advent". It started playing and as soon as the music started i said "this is not bad at all", it continued for a moment and i said "this is actually pretty good", it kept going and i said "wow, this is really awesome"... and then the f***ing vocals started... those stupid annoying growls and shrieks and all that bullshit that i hate so much in black and death metal. My heart plummeted to my feet. i kept listening for a while, and the music just kept getting better and better, but those hideous growls just continued to get in the way. I had to stop it. I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now.That's exactly how I feel about Opeth. I have two of their CDs. I think the song Deliverance is just incredible, except where Cookie Monster sings all over it. The music is just amazing though.
ILSnwdog Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 OP is ignorance at its finestNot liking Cookie Monster vocals is ignorance?
Maverick Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Ive never listened to Opeth, not once, not even by accident, not one song. But i was reading how they are one of the biggest exponents of the progressive metal in the last 20 years or so. So i said, "meeeh, why not..." and looked for one of their cited songs: "Advent". It started playing and as soon as the music started i said "this is not bad at all", it continued for a moment and i said "this is actually pretty good", it kept going and i said "wow, this is really awesome"... and then the f***ing vocals started... those stupid annoying growls and shrieks and all that bullshit that i hate so much in black and death metal. My heart plummeted to my feet. i kept listening for a while, and the music just kept getting better and better, but those hideous growls just continued to get in the way. I had to stop it. I'm heartbroken right now. What a way to ruin some awesome music. If it wasn't for those stupid vocals i would be getting all their albums now.That's exactly how I feel about Opeth. I have two of their CDs. I think the song Deliverance is just incredible, except where Cookie Monster sings all over it. The music is just amazing though. Do not deny the cookie monster!
H. P. L. Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 It's not cookie monster. It's your subconscious. Don't deny it. Embrace it.
Snaked Posted March 26, 2013 Posted March 26, 2013 I wanted to like Opeth... but I simply cannot handle the cookie monster. 1
geddyforlife Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 I wanted to like Opeth... but I simply cannot handle the cookie monster. :rfl: X 1000000000!!!!!!! My sentiments exactly.
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