hunter Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) Nice. It's sounds tighter for sure. And thanks for the mini tutorial. Edited June 14, 2012 by hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tst4echo Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Thank you for your insight and post. Can someone please tell me, with the storied problems with post-production in the past, how something like this is put out, by so-called "professionals"? I DON'T GET IT! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (tst4echo @ Jun 14 2012, 01:19 PM) Thank you for your insight and post. Can someone please tell me, with the storied problems with post-production in the past, how something like this is put out, by so-called "professionals"? I DON'T GET IT! ???? You're welcome. There's really nothing wrong with the sound on the cd. It's not a matter of "how could this happen". It's more of a taste preference. To my ears they just missed the high-end a little in the mastering process, and maybe didn't cut enough sub lows. But it's all Fine! Sounds fine like it is. It's a loud rock record. This is how they sound. Edited June 14, 2012 by launchpad67a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condemned2bfree Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted June 14, 2012 Author Share Posted June 14, 2012 QUOTE (condemned2bfree @ Jun 14 2012, 03:05 PM) Cheers for the info. sound is clearer.. vocals + drums pop out and its not so muddy. The settings on the heavier songs sounds great..c.a. in particular sounds really amazing. Would you keep the same settings for the whole album...lighter songs the garden etc? Thanks. No, I don't think those settings would be best for the entire record. Although they would work, each song should have it's own settings. Also, I feel the first 2 songs don't need any adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredder2 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 QUOTE (rushgoober @ Jun 14 2012, 12:15 PM) QUOTE (BigBob @ Jun 14 2012, 10:12 AM) Still can't hear "the pedlar II" maybe it's a problem with your equipment. what do you lack? Only Goob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Ways Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 great job. What a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pound of Obscure Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 So how do I get this cd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Not sure if my link works, but I think this can show how heavy the bass is. First try at re-EQ'ing. Link to Carnies You will hear it repeated against the original. Re-EQ first, then normal, then re-EQ , then normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 QUOTE (Pound of Obscure @ Jun 14 2012, 07:14 PM) So how do I get this cd? Launchpad Fan Pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 QUOTE (PrismEye @ Jun 14 2012, 02:16 PM) Thanks for this, I really appreciate you making a great solution instead of just complaining about a problem. Aye...this! I tweaked my car stereo settings a bit to great success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkingBig Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Here's what I think of the self-proclaimed "expert" audiophiles who think they know better than RUSH and their studio team. http://i.imgur.com/a1ZES.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowgunSam Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 @Launchpad, I've tried your EQ setup and it sounded fantastic through Mixcraft, which is what I used to modify the parameters; however, once I had it mixed down and played it through WMP I noticed that I still get that "brick wall" effect from the original compression and I lost most of the clarity. Do you think that's the playback program (WMP) or is it just the nature of the beast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted June 15, 2012 Author Share Posted June 15, 2012 QUOTE (ShowgunSam @ Jun 14 2012, 07:26 PM) @Launchpad, I've tried your EQ setup and it sounded fantastic through Mixcraft, which is what I used to modify the parameters; however, once I had it mixed down and played it through WMP I noticed that I still get that "brick wall" effect from the original compression and I lost most of the clarity. Do you think that's the playback program (WMP) or is it just the nature of the beast? There is something wrong in your mixdown chain. Make sure you have reduced the master outputs to whatever I said in the first post. Make sure you "render" the new file through the entire master bus. I rendered a 320kbps mp3 file and it plays perfectly in WMP. Check all your save-as settings and make sure its just a clean path to disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analog guy Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 I may try it. I've found that the album sounds better or worse depending on the location.... in my den with headphones is good. In my car, it sounds awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushman14 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 QUOTE (analog guy @ Jun 14 2012, 08:57 PM) I may try it. I've found that the album sounds better or worse depending on the location.... in my den with headphones is good. In my car, it sounds awful. my car speakers are not fans of those taurus pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Tried my home remaster in the truck tonight and it sounds great. Glad it is an easy fix unlike VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Jun 14 2012, 09:55 AM) While I'm very happy with the overall sound and mix of CA, it's isn't without a few minor issues. First, let me say that the "mix" is there, meaning everything is audible and the levels are mostly fine. After deciding the mix was there, I realized some of the instruments weren't coming through as well as they should be. Hmmm, what could cause this? Being an audio and mastering engineer I was able to determine fairly quickly the cause. It's an slight EQ issue, especially in the top end, and the amount of low end on the recording was getting in the way of the clarity. So I dumped a song into my mastering program just to see what was going on. Sure enough, the recording lacked some highs (just some specifically), and the low end (sub lows only) were a bit much, causing the highs to get lost. So it just lacked a bit of clarity in the top end, which is a direct result of the low end, and is easily fixed. If you have audio editing software, Try This: (I used "The Anarchist" for my tests - .wav file) Multiband EQ: -5.0dB cut from 50Hz - 20Hz -2.5dB @ 140Hz (Q=50) +2.1dB @ 4400Hz (Q=50) +2.2dB @ 6450Hz (Q=50) +1.9dB @ 13350Hz - 20000Hz Multiband Compressor: -1.7dB cut from 46Hz - 20Hz -0.7dB cut from 500Hz - 707Hz Master Output: -0.40dB Left and Right With these settings the (sub) low end gets tamed down and the high end is pushed slightly, only at specific frequencies. Subtle changes, but fairly effective. Plus, the average overall volume (RMS) is reduced from -8.5dB to -10dB, making it not quite so loud. This seems to give the mix a bit more clarity, to my ears. Try it out, or listen below. Don't have audio editing software? Listen to the result: The Anarchist - Remaster (320kbps Mp3 file) *since everyone here has the album, I don't have a problem posting this file. Don't abuse it. You more than anyone here should know you shouldn't have to remaster a freshly mastered recording! You should just put it on and it should sound good. We know that compression impacts frequency. I would be interested in the dynamic range as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Guy Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (ThinkingBig @ Jun 14 2012, 09:17 PM) Here's what I think of the self-proclaimed "expert" audiophiles who think they know better than RUSH and their studio team. http://i.imgur.com/a1ZES.gif Here's what i think of the above poster that keeps stating the exact same "you don't know better than Rush" line on EVERY thread lately: *fart noise To the OP: I appreciate your tweaking of the song, it sounded tighter and had less unnecessary bass drowning out certain sections of the song, but it seems like it was just as effective for me to play with the EQ settings on any of my sound systems. Still, good effort Edited June 15, 2012 by That One Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Henry Gale Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Holy jeebus, this sounds great. As someone that had a lot of issues with the bass (especially the Taurus pedals) on my set up, this sounds a lot nicer with my subwoofer. Original release was just way too harsh in the bass (drove my ears nuts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Henry Gale Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (ThinkingBig @ Jun 14 2012, 06:17 PM) Here's what I think of the self-proclaimed "expert" audiophiles who think they know better than RUSH and their studio team. http://i.imgur.com/a1ZES.gif Yeah okay buddy. Because Rush are gods who not capable of making mistakes - ever. And don't come back with that crap excuse "they are professionals who have been doing this for 30+ years" - so what. Plenty of long time bands have given into the poor industry practices of the last 15 years. I respect your opinion that you have no issue with the sound of this album. Why can't you respect that others have an opinion this album has some sound issues? Edited June 15, 2012 by Mr. Henry Gale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucsteve667 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Its funny, when I ripped the tracks fer my podcast, I boosted the highs a smidge too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndroidOnTheRun Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Sound Issues? Try this... 1) Open your CD tray 2) Put in Permanent Waves 3) Press play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto-digitation Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Edited June 15, 2012 by Presto-digitation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (Gompers @ Jun 14 2012, 08:52 PM)Not sure if my link works, but I think this can show how heavy the bass is. First try at re-EQ'ing. Link to Carnies You will hear it repeated against the original. Re-EQ first, then normal, then re-EQ , then normal. Hopefully this link works better... Carnies re-EQ Up for 7 days... Edited June 15, 2012 by Gompers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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