The REAL first chord of "A Hard Day's Night"

[Draco]

http://youtu.be/AvxPc5MPEuQ

[ReRushed]

Ah, the simple joys of life. The enthusiasm in his voice tells it all.

[Invisible To Telescopic Eye]

That is cool...what an amazing sound.

[Hatchetaxe&saw]

Wow. That made me smile and go all goose-pimply.

[Ancient Ways]

Chord is a bit of a misnomer here. Most of the arguing has been over what George played. I have really never heard anyone worked up about what Paul and John were doing but when you hear it it definitely makes sense.

[theredtamasrule]

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 15 2011, 08:57 PM)

Chord is a bit of a misnomer here. Most of the arguing has been over what George played. I have really never heard anyone worked up about what Paul and John were doing but when you hear it it definitely makes sense.

Yeah, it's not so much "a chord that George or John plays" but the overall wall of tones generated by the whole band.

[fledgehog]

Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments.

[Ancient Ways]

QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 15 2011, 11:43 PM)

Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments.

you can argue this but, if you do, then everything is a chord including single notes since there are overtones/harmonics any time you strike a note. Also, you would be able to freeze any song at any time and say that whatever is happening is a chord including the percussion since they are creating tones at specific pitches. I prefer the usual definition of chord that I describe as two or more notes sounded "simultaneously" on a single instrument.

[lerxt1990]

QUOTE (Draco @ Dec 15 2011, 12:53 AM)

http://youtu.be/AvxPc5MPEuQ

how interesting and fun.

[ReRushed]

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 16 2011, 09:14 PM)

QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 15 2011, 11:43 PM) Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments. you can argue this but, if you do, then everything is a chord including single notes since there are overtones/harmonics any time you strike a note. Also, you would be able to freeze any song at any time and say that whatever is happening is a chord including the percussion since they are creating tones at specific pitches. I prefer the usual definition of chord that I describe as two or more notes sounded "simultaneously" on a single instrument. I always thought a chord was simply defined as three or more notes or pitches played simultaneously. I never understood that to imply using one instrument.

Edited December 17, 2011 by ReRushed

[fledgehog]

QUOTE (ReRushed @ Dec 16 2011, 11:34 PM)

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 16 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 15 2011, 11:43 PM) Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments. you can argue this but, if you do, then everything is a chord including single notes since there are overtones/harmonics any time you strike a note. Also, you would be able to freeze any song at any time and say that whatever is happening is a chord including the percussion since they are creating tones at specific pitches. I prefer the usual definition of chord that I describe as two or more notes sounded "simultaneously" on a single instrument. I always thought a chord was simply defined as three or more notes or pitches played simultaneously. I never understood that to imply using one instrument. that is very true. By the "single instrument" rule, a symphony orchestra would almost never play any chords.

[Ancient Ways]

QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 16 2011, 11:59 PM)

QUOTE (ReRushed @ Dec 16 2011, 11:34 PM) QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 16 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 15 2011, 11:43 PM) Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments. you can argue this but, if you do, then everything is a chord including single notes since there are overtones/harmonics any time you strike a note. Also, you would be able to freeze any song at any time and say that whatever is happening is a chord including the percussion since they are creating tones at specific pitches. I prefer the usual definition of chord that I describe as two or more notes sounded "simultaneously" on a single instrument. I always thought a chord was simply defined as three or more notes or pitches played simultaneously. I never understood that to imply using one instrument. that is very true. By the "single instrument" rule, a symphony orchestra would almost never play any chords. so, then everything is a chord then. There is "technical" and the way people talk. anyone who asks "what chord is that?" does not expect an answer that includes what the keyboards, vocalist, bass player, and drummer are doing. They want to know that "he's playing a C."

Edited December 17, 2011 by Ancient Ways

[invisibleairwaves]

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 17 2011, 03:29 PM)

QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 16 2011, 11:59 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Dec 16 2011, 11:34 PM) QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 16 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 15 2011, 11:43 PM) Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments. you can argue this but, if you do, then everything is a chord including single notes since there are overtones/harmonics any time you strike a note. Also, you would be able to freeze any song at any time and say that whatever is happening is a chord including the percussion since they are creating tones at specific pitches. I prefer the usual definition of chord that I describe as two or more notes sounded "simultaneously" on a single instrument. I always thought a chord was simply defined as three or more notes or pitches played simultaneously. I never understood that to imply using one instrument. that is very true. By the "single instrument" rule, a symphony orchestra would almost never play any chords. so, then everything is a chord then. There is "technical" and the way people talk. anyone who asks "what chord is that?" does not expect an answer that includes what the keyboards, vocalist, bass player, and drummer are doing. They want to know that "he's playing a C." That's only because in most pop music, all the instruments are playing pretty much the same chord, and there's no difference between what the guitarist, for example, is playing and what the band as a whole is playing. When there is, however, the word "chord" is absolutely appropriate for describing the result of different instruments playing different pitches.   It doesn't make any sense to distinguish between the two definitions, really...we, as listeners, often have trouble discerning exactly who is playing what notes when we're listening to a whole band playing together, so you have to describe the "chord" as being the sum of the different instruments. Harmonically, it doesn't really matter if one guy is playing a C and a G while the other guy plays an E and a B, or if they both play C-E-G-B; the listener will still perceive it as a Cmaj7.

[MMCXII]

Wicked! So cool

[Ancient Ways]

QUOTE (invisibleairwaves @ Dec 19 2011, 07:12 AM)

QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 17 2011, 03:29 PM) QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 16 2011, 11:59 PM) QUOTE (ReRushed @ Dec 16 2011, 11:34 PM) QUOTE (Ancient Ways @ Dec 16 2011, 09:14 PM) QUOTE (fledgehog @ Dec 15 2011, 11:43 PM) Either way, it's still a chord (or more accurately, a polychord), just being played by multiple instruments. you can argue this but, if you do, then everything is a chord including single notes since there are overtones/harmonics any time you strike a note. Also, you would be able to freeze any song at any time and say that whatever is happening is a chord including the percussion since they are creating tones at specific pitches. I prefer the usual definition of chord that I describe as two or more notes sounded "simultaneously" on a single instrument. I always thought a chord was simply defined as three or more notes or pitches played simultaneously. I never understood that to imply using one instrument. that is very true. By the "single instrument" rule, a symphony orchestra would almost never play any chords. so, then everything is a chord then. There is "technical" and the way people talk. anyone who asks "what chord is that?" does not expect an answer that includes what the keyboards, vocalist, bass player, and drummer are doing. They want to know that "he's playing a C." That's only because in most pop music, all the instruments are playing pretty much the same chord, and there's no difference between what the guitarist, for example, is playing and what the band as a whole is playing. When there is, however, the word "chord" is absolutely appropriate for describing the result of different instruments playing different pitches.   It doesn't make any sense to distinguish between the two definitions, really...we, as listeners, often have trouble discerning exactly who is playing what notes when we're listening to a whole band playing together, so you have to describe the "chord" as being the sum of the different instruments. Harmonically, it doesn't really matter if one guy is playing a C and a G while the other guy plays an E and a B, or if they both play C-E-G-B; the listener will still perceive it as a Cmaj7. That's not how I listen to music.

[USB Connector]

I'd be flipping out as well if that happened to me. That is awesome!

 

Now it's time for me to put in that CD and play along with drums...

[Ancient Ways]

QUOTE (USB Connector @ Dec 19 2011, 11:55 PM)

I'd be flipping out as well if that happened to me. That is awesome! Now it's time for me to put in that CD and play along with drums...

yeah, the discussion kind of went on a tangent. I think it is awesome they had access to these recordings.