Drummers!

[launchpad67a]

QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 31 2006, 01:05 PM)

QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Dec 31 2006, 01:58 PM) QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 31 2006, 11:38 AM) QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Dec 31 2006, 01:29 PM) Holy shit Kazz! Your set has been breeding with itself.... That's quite a lot to keep track of but it looks great. What's the pedal to the right of your kick pedal for? Where's the hole in the front bass head for a mic?  The pedal on the right of the kick pedal controls an auxiliary hi-hat that has two 6" Zil-Bells on it.   And I just take the front head off the bass when I record (see picture in Random Samples). Ah, cool, Zil-Bells on the aux hat. Nice.   Removing the front head is an interesting approach when recording. What about when you play live? How do you mic it? We used to place the mic directly in front of the resonate head, but I'm looking into getting a new one with the hole for the mic in it. Yeah, the mic really needs to be inside the drum for rock music.

[Melll]

My kit:

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/drums1.jpg

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/drums2.jpg

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/drums3.jpg

 

The kit I use when I'm rehearsing, it saves me humping my drums around:

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/DSCF0460.jpg

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/DSCF0461.jpg

[drummerboy]

Nice kits, I like the Mapex kit.

[deadwing2112]

Yes, I like the cymbal setup.

[YYZ Working Man]

nice kit man

[drummerboy]

I've got a Roland TD-8 electronic kit and a Mapex M Birch acoustic kit.

 

Roland:

 

TD-8 Module

1 FD-7 - Hi Hat Pedal

1 PD-7 - Hi Hat

1 PD-120 - Snare

1 KD-120 - Kick

2 CY-12R/C - Cymbal

3 PD-80 - Tom

1 PD-80R - it's actually a snare, but i use it as a tom.

Red TD-10 Rack

 

Mapex:

 

2 cowbells

22" x 18" kick (Double Kick Pedal)

10" x 8" rack tom

12" x 9" rack tom

13" x 10" rack tom

16" x 16" floor tom

5"-1/2" x 14" snare

Remo Heads

AA Medium Ride 20"/51cm

AA Medium Crash 16"/41 cm

Medium Crash 16"

Regular Hats 14"/36 cm

all cymbals are Sabian

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mortkort]

we know dummerboy, you have posted it tree times now.

 

[Appie1975]

What a great thread...

 

I've got a 1977 Slingerland:

 

Oystershell Wraps

18" bass

12" Tom

13" Tom

16" Floor Tom

 

14" chrome snare

 

1980 Ludwig:

8" Concert Tom

10" Concert Tom

 

Cymbals:

70's Zildjian-

10" splash

14" hi-hat

16" crash

18" crash

22" ride

22" ride with rivets (a la Ginger Baker)

 

Misc:

Pearl Tribell

3 cowbells (6", 8", 12")

Glockenspiel

Chimes

2 woodblocks (4", 8")

Mounted tambourine

 

Hardware:

1970's pearl

 

Every year my school has a teacher talent show and two of my buddies and I put on a mini-concert. Most of the kids don't really get it, but our co-workers go nuts. Our set list goes:

 

Medley: Finding My Way/Anthem/Bastille Day

Xanadu Intro/Overture from Tommy/By-Tor & The Snow Dog

Freewill

Spirit of Radio

Tom Sawyer

YYZ

La Villa Strangiato

 

Hey, it's a hobby!

 

PS - yeah we win the talent shows too.

[Rush!]

QUOTE (Appie1975 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:47 AM)

What a great thread... I've got a 1977 Slingerland: Oystershell Wraps 18" bass 12" Tom 13" Tom 16" Floor Tom 14" chrome snare 1980 Ludwig: 8" Concert Tom 10" Concert Tom Cymbals: 70's Zildjian- 10" splash 14" hi-hat 16" crash 18" crash 22" ride 22" ride with rivets (a la Ginger Baker) Misc: Pearl Tribell 3 cowbells (6", 8", 12") Glockenspiel Chimes 2 woodblocks (4", 8") Mounted tambourine Hardware: 1970's pearl Every year my school has a teacher talent show and two of my buddies and I put on a mini-concert. Most of the kids don't really get it, but our co-workers go nuts. Our set list goes: Medley: Finding My Way/Anthem/Bastille Day Xanadu Intro/Overture from Tommy/By-Tor & The Snow Dog Freewill Spirit of Radio Tom Sawyer YYZ La Villa Strangiato Hey, it's a hobby! PS - yeah we win the talent shows too.

Wow, highly impressive dude!!!

[deadwing2112]

QUOTE (Rush! @ Feb 15 2007, 03:35 PM)

QUOTE (Appie1975 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:47 AM) What a great thread... I've got a 1977 Slingerland: Oystershell Wraps 18" bass 12" Tom 13" Tom 16" Floor Tom 14" chrome snare 1980 Ludwig: 8" Concert Tom 10" Concert Tom Cymbals: 70's Zildjian- 10" splash 14" hi-hat 16" crash 18" crash 22" ride 22" ride with rivets (a la Ginger Baker) Misc: Pearl Tribell 3 cowbells (6", 8", 12") Glockenspiel Chimes 2 woodblocks (4", 8") Mounted tambourine Hardware: 1970's pearl Every year my school has a teacher talent show and two of my buddies and I put on a mini-concert.  Most of the kids don't really get it, but our co-workers go nuts.  Our set list goes: Medley:  Finding My Way/Anthem/Bastille Day Xanadu Intro/Overture from Tommy/By-Tor & The Snow Dog Freewill Spirit of Radio Tom Sawyer YYZ La Villa Strangiato Hey, it's a hobby! PS - yeah we win the talent shows too. Wow, highly impressive dude!!! Do you have a video of the concert?

[Beatnik]

QUOTE (Appie1975 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:47 AM)

What a great thread... I've got a 1977 Slingerland: Oystershell Wraps 18" bass 12" Tom 13" Tom 16" Floor Tom 14" chrome snare 1980 Ludwig: 8" Concert Tom 10" Concert Tom Cymbals: 70's Zildjian- 10" splash 14" hi-hat 16" crash 18" crash 22" ride 22" ride with rivets (a la Ginger Baker) Misc: Pearl Tribell 3 cowbells (6", 8", 12") Glockenspiel Chimes 2 woodblocks (4", 8") Mounted tambourine Hardware: 1970's pearl

Snap a pic of that kit, I wanna see! Here's my black chrome Slingerlands (A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres era). Couldn't pry these from my cold dead hands!

 

http://www.drumforum.org/files/blakrome4_122.jpg

[mortkort]

QUOTE (Beatnik @ Feb 26 2007, 07:54 PM)

QUOTE (Appie1975 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:47 AM) What a great thread... I've got a 1977 Slingerland: Oystershell Wraps 18" bass 12" Tom 13" Tom 16" Floor Tom 14" chrome snare 1980 Ludwig: 8" Concert Tom 10" Concert Tom Cymbals: 70's Zildjian- 10" splash 14" hi-hat 16" crash 18" crash 22" ride 22" ride with rivets (a la Ginger Baker) Misc: Pearl Tribell 3 cowbells (6", 8", 12") Glockenspiel Chimes 2 woodblocks (4", 8") Mounted tambourine Hardware: 1970's pearl Snap a pic of that kit, I wanna see! Here's my black chrome Slingerlands (A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres era). Couldn't pry these from my cold dead hands!   http://www.drumforum.org/files/blakrome4_122.jpg nice kit man!

[deadwing2112]

QUOTE (mortkort @ Feb 26 2007, 05:32 PM)

QUOTE (Beatnik @ Feb 26 2007, 07:54 PM) QUOTE (Appie1975 @ Feb 15 2007, 01:47 AM) What a great thread... I've got a 1977 Slingerland: Oystershell Wraps 18" bass 12" Tom 13" Tom 16" Floor Tom 14" chrome snare 1980 Ludwig: 8" Concert Tom 10" Concert Tom Cymbals: 70's Zildjian- 10" splash 14" hi-hat 16" crash 18" crash 22" ride 22" ride with rivets (a la Ginger Baker) Misc: Pearl Tribell 3 cowbells (6", 8", 12") Glockenspiel Chimes 2 woodblocks (4", 8") Mounted tambourine Hardware: 1970's pearl Snap a pic of that kit, I wanna see! Here's my black chrome Slingerlands (A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres era). Couldn't pry these from my cold dead hands!   http://www.drumforum.org/files/blakrome4_122.jpg nice kit man! I like it a lot.

[YYZ Working Man]

nice singer kit

[Beatnik]

Thanks! Still want to see those Slingerlands of yours Appie1975......

[Appie1975]

wow, that is a sweet set... i'll get some pics up... i'll get some video clips up too...

[drummerboy]

i'm just trying to get people to post something!

[tascam]

QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Dec 31 2006, 05:36 PM)

QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 31 2006, 01:05 PM) QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Dec 31 2006, 01:58 PM) QUOTE (kazzman @ Dec 31 2006, 11:38 AM) QUOTE (launchpad67a @ Dec 31 2006, 01:29 PM) Holy shit Kazz! Your set has been breeding with itself.... That's quite a lot to keep track of but it looks great. What's the pedal to the right of your kick pedal for? Where's the hole in the front bass head for a mic?  The pedal on the right of the kick pedal controls an auxiliary hi-hat that has two 6" Zil-Bells on it.   And I just take the front head off the bass when I record (see picture in Random Samples). Ah, cool, Zil-Bells on the aux hat. Nice.   Removing the front head is an interesting approach when recording. What about when you play live? How do you mic it? We used to place the mic directly in front of the resonate head, but I'm looking into getting a new one with the hole for the mic in it. Yeah, the mic really needs to be inside the drum for rock music. This is not the only way to record a bass drum for rock music. Why not listen to every single Led Zeppelin album and then tell me that a mic "has" to been placed "inside" a bass drum for rock music!   Different strokes for different folks. There is no "ONE" correct way! Mic placement, eq-ing and signal flow through and gain structure in any mixing console is an art form. Art follows no rules. Those that break the rules, are usually the best artists!

[CygnusX-1Bk2]

Breaking the rules is allowed once one knows what the rules are and how to break them. Great artists study standard procedures and techniques then develop their own styles through new techniques (Like say Picaso or Pollack). One cannot break a rule without knowing what they are doing and intentionally doing so.

[tascam]

Not necessarily...oh wise one!

 

Eddie Van Halen is another example of ground breaking, rule breaking, and writing his own "Book of Music" by doing his own thing...which just happened to be "breaking the rules"....

 

...this is of course, after infinite guitarists spent countless hours trying to figure out just what Eddie was doing and why their Mel Bay Guitar Method 1 book didn't include anything that Eddie was doing!

 

[CygnusX-1Bk2]

Yeah, but he didn't start out doing hammer ons. He learned how to play chords and scales first. Whether he was taught or learned on his own he had to learn certain rules before breaking new ground. His father was professional musician so I am sure he was taught theory by his father.

[launchpad67a]

QUOTE (tascam @ Mar 16 2007, 03:26 PM)

This is not the only way to record a bass drum for rock music. Why not listen to every single Led Zeppelin album and then tell me that a mic "has" to been placed "inside" a bass drum for rock music! Different strokes for different folks. There is no "ONE" correct way! Mic placement, eq-ing and signal flow through and gain structure in any mixing console is an art form. Art follows no rules. Those that break the rules, are usually the best artists!

I'm well aware of how the drums were recorded for Zep albums. If you want to try and duplicate that method, by all means go for it. It will take 2 U67's ($10,000) and a pair of Neve 1073 pre's ($7000) just to get the sound to the board. Don't know to many recording newbies that can spend 17K on 2 mics and 2 pre's.

Of course your allowed to try anything you'd like. You're right, there is no one correct way but there are guidelines that should be learned when you are a newbie to recording.

[LakesideMaiden]

COMING SOON!!

 

Photo's of DerTrom's 16-pc Tama setup with many, many cymbals - taken out of the bedroom closet and set up in the only room big enough and easily emptied.

 

Stay tuned!!

[Der Trommler]

Here's my acoustic (front-side) kit. The electronic (back-side) is the bottom pic. It's a little off from the way I'd set it up & the whole kit can't be put together for lack of space. This is just an idea.....

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lakesidemaiden/Daves%20Acoustic%20Kit/Front.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lakesidemaiden/Daves%20Acoustic%20Kit/Front-Top.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lakesidemaiden/Daves%20Acoustic%20Kit/Front-LeftSide.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lakesidemaiden/Daves%20Acoustic%20Kit/Top-Left-Side.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lakesidemaiden/Daves%20Acoustic%20Kit/LeftSide.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/lakesidemaiden/Daves%20Acoustic%20Kit/Top-Right-Side.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j228/dmmdrums/DAstuff005.jpg

Edited April 1, 2007 by Der Trommler

[mortkort]

sweet kits man!