thebernreuter Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 (edited) I quote from your own link: "In falsetto, however, the vocal folds are seen to be blown apart and in untrained falsetto singers a permanent oval orifice is left in the middle between the edges of the two folds through which a certain volume of air escapes continuously as long as the register is engaged (the singer is singing using the voice). In skilled countertenors, however, the mucous membrane of the vocal folds contact with each other completely during each vibration cycle. The arytenoid cartilages are held in firm apposition in this voice register also. The length or size of the oval orifice or separation between the folds can vary, but it is known to get bigger in size as the pressure of air pushed out is increased." Geddy is a skilled countertenor. The overlap between the two is called the passaggio range, which is the range one can cover with chest voice and head voice [aka falsetto]. Alot of people's voices just crack here, and this actually done purposely in yodeling and pop music as a tonal note. In Geddy's case [as with mine], the two ranges are the same such that he can sing any note in his upper register any way he wants. If you want I can do a YouTube demonstration using this song as an example. In the Zebra guy's defense, falsetto is more appropriate in acoustic situations because chest voice is usually extremely loud. On the tribute discs he sounds way better. On the other hand, if one develops nodes or nodules on the cords [calluses on the cords that prevent them from ever attaining full contact], it essentially makes it sound like one is singing falsetto all the time because too much air leaks out. This happens to people who belt their passaggio out for too long or while simultaneously having too much tension in the muscles and tendons you can see around your Adam's apple. He could have had nodes in that clip. Minor nodes heal just like regular calluses; stop using it and it goes away. But if you keep singing harder and harder to try to sing the same volume as before, you can "blow" your voice permanently, like Steve Perry, ironically Steve Perry's first replacement, Davy Havok [he had surgery and sounds pretty good right now], and a metric ton of semi-pro and professional musical theater people. I was really close to blowing mine in 2004 when the band I had at the time went on indefinite hiatus [never thought I'd be glad that happen]. If you're stupid like I was, when you start sounding rough and hoarse after a few gigs in a row you think you just need more practice to build endurance. The more you practice with bad technique, the bigger the calluses get and the worse you sound, making you practice even more, until one day *pop* goes the vo-cals. Thank God for college. Edited April 1, 2008 by thebernreuter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
launchpad67a Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 That was Killer !! thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebernreuter Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (iglehart @ Mar 31 2008, 10:09 PM) Wow, thats horrible He's done better. The "Subdivisions" tribute is actually worth getting; way better than "Working Man". I don't get why they didn't use the Coheed & Cambria guy, the Mars Volta guy, or the Darkness guy. Way more musically relevant now, and much more Geddy-esque Edited April 1, 2008 by thebernreuter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushian King Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 That was icky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pblaster Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 Randy Jackson - Guitar/Vocals for Zebra Randy Jackson - Journey bassist/Idol judge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebernreuter Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDg1all8-sY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Duio Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 QUOTE (PuppetKing2112 @ Mar 30 2008, 11:44 AM) I'm disappointed, when I saw this thread I thought you were talking about Randy Jackson the Idol judge. Same. And since my work's websense won't let me view the video, I still do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
third hand grace Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 the GUITAR SOUNDS BIG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowdog Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 QUOTE (PuppetKing2112 @ Mar 30 2008, 12:44 PM) I'm disappointed, when I saw this thread I thought you were talking about Randy Jackson the Idol judge. Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gompers Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Randy plays AFTK and distant early warning on the tribute disc- Subdivisions.There is a throw out to another song during the lead and I can't place it. It's at 4:38. Not even sure if it is a Rush tune because I keep hearing The Song Remains the Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaminbenb Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Bummer...don't have a myspace account so I can't get in! Saw Zebra back in the 80's great live band! I can only imagine how this sounds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushgoober Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8YWy3Rzo5o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGr8imL84AD8inF8sBlackSedan Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm disappointed, when I saw this thread I thought you were talking about Randy Jackson the Idol judge. That's what I thought as well. Zebra was a pretty cool band back in the day...Still love Who's Behind The Door. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 More classic Zebra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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