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Poll: 2112 or Cygnus X-1 Book II - Hemispheres? (57 member(s) have cast votes)

Which song do you think is better?

  1. 2112 (24 votes [42.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

  2. Cygnus X-1 Book II - Hemispheres (33 votes [57.89%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 57.89%

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#21 Your_Lion

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:28 PM

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres. The only song that might be better is Xanadu
:goodone: That's exactly what I was going to say  :yes:

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:29 PM

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

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View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

I still think part one should be included in the comparison since Hemispheres is just the second part of Cygnus X-1. Otherwise, why not just make 2112 only the finale?
It's not a comparison.  I wanted to see which song was better liked.  Or loved.  Zumbi had started a thread with these two songs up against The Fountain of Lamneth.  I wanted to see how just 2112 and Hemispheres did without the FOL.  That's why I started the thread.

And I said the same thing in the other thread. :)   To me it's all one thing.
They were released on different albums. The analogy to leaving out Grand Finale doesn't really make sense lol

That's not what I said.  I said that leaving Cygnus X-1 out of a discussion of Hemispheres is like leaving everything out of 2112 BUT the finale.
Ok, well whatever, my point is still valid :D

What was your point?  Just because they were released on different albums doesn't mean anything. They are part one and part two. It's one epic regardless.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:30 PM

View PostYour_Lion, on 06 March 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres. The only song that might be better is Xanadu
:goodone: That's exactly what I was going to say  :yes:
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:32 PM

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 03:30 PM, said:

View PostYour_Lion, on 06 March 2015 - 03:28 PM, said:

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres. The only song that might be better is Xanadu
:goodone: That's exactly what I was going to say  :yes:
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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:32 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

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View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

I still think part one should be included in the comparison since Hemispheres is just the second part of Cygnus X-1. Otherwise, why not just make 2112 only the finale?
It's not a comparison.  I wanted to see which song was better liked.  Or loved.  Zumbi had started a thread with these two songs up against The Fountain of Lamneth.  I wanted to see how just 2112 and Hemispheres did without the FOL.  That's why I started the thread.

And I said the same thing in the other thread. :)   To me it's all one thing.
They were released on different albums. The analogy to leaving out Grand Finale doesn't really make sense lol

That's not what I said.  I said that leaving Cygnus X-1 out of a discussion of Hemispheres is like leaving everything out of 2112 BUT the finale.
Ok, well whatever, my point is still valid :D

What was your point?  Just because they were released on different albums doesn't mean anything. They are part one and part two. It's one epic regardless.
It's a sequel. If it were George Lucas movies, you could pit Empire against America Graffiti without including all of the other Star Wars movies.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:36 PM

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

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View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

I still think part one should be included in the comparison since Hemispheres is just the second part of Cygnus X-1. Otherwise, why not just make 2112 only the finale?
It's not a comparison.  I wanted to see which song was better liked.  Or loved.  Zumbi had started a thread with these two songs up against The Fountain of Lamneth.  I wanted to see how just 2112 and Hemispheres did without the FOL.  That's why I started the thread.

And I said the same thing in the other thread. :)   To me it's all one thing.
They were released on different albums. The analogy to leaving out Grand Finale doesn't really make sense lol

That's not what I said.  I said that leaving Cygnus X-1 out of a discussion of Hemispheres is like leaving everything out of 2112 BUT the finale.
Ok, well whatever, my point is still valid :D

What was your point?  Just because they were released on different albums doesn't mean anything. They are part one and part two. It's one epic regardless.
It's a sequel. If it were George Lucas movies, you could pit Empire against America Graffiti without including all of the other Star Wars movies.

Are you on drugs?  :D

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:55 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:36 PM, said:

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 03:32 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:25 PM, said:

View PostGeddy, on 06 March 2015 - 03:23 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

View PostLorraine, on 06 March 2015 - 01:03 PM, said:

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 12:55 PM, said:

I still think part one should be included in the comparison since Hemispheres is just the second part of Cygnus X-1. Otherwise, why not just make 2112 only the finale?
It's not a comparison.  I wanted to see which song was better liked.  Or loved.  Zumbi had started a thread with these two songs up against The Fountain of Lamneth.  I wanted to see how just 2112 and Hemispheres did without the FOL.  That's why I started the thread.

And I said the same thing in the other thread. :)   To me it's all one thing.
They were released on different albums. The analogy to leaving out Grand Finale doesn't really make sense lol

That's not what I said.  I said that leaving Cygnus X-1 out of a discussion of Hemispheres is like leaving everything out of 2112 BUT the finale.
Ok, well whatever, my point is still valid :D

What was your point?  Just because they were released on different albums doesn't mean anything. They are part one and part two. It's one epic regardless.
It's a sequel. If it were George Lucas movies, you could pit Empire against America Graffiti without including all of the other Star Wars movies.

Are you on drugs?  :D
You're just mad that I came up with a way better analogy :D

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:57 PM

I've been a Hemisphere's head ever since it came out!   I loved AFTK when it came out, and when I saw that Cygnus said "to be continued" at the end of the lyrics inside the album cover, I couldn't WAIT to see what they did!

2112 is a great "tune" but I'm still into Hemispheres!

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 03:59 PM

Ping!!!

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:12 PM

I haven't heard 2112 in a long while but I hear Hemispheres on a regular basis. Still I wouldn't cast my vote yet as if I listened to 2112 might change my perspective. They're both masterpieces in my view and two songs you should know if you're serious about music.

What I like about Hemispheres is the bold arrangement. The pauses between the segments. Haven't heard that applied anywhere else. Geddy's voice is a little more "mellow" if that's the correct word to use ;). Other than that the lyrics resonates in me and gives food for thought. 2112 has more variation than Hemispheres but it hasn't got as much going for it production/mixing wise. The lyrics on 2112 reminds me more of politics and ideologies which at the moment doesn't tickle my fancy as much.

I feel like I'm splitting hairs but right now Hemispheres would win by the smallest possible margin.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:20 PM

I say 2112, but just barely.  I think it mostly comes down to the personal relationship I had with the song when I was a little boy, trying to be a big boy.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:21 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 06 March 2015 - 03:29 PM, said:


They are part one and part two. It's one epic regardless.

I made a version of Cygnus in which, at around the 12:10 point of Hemispheres, I spliced in book 1; I then blend in the final strummed chords of book 1 with the same chords in the middle of Hemispheres.  It works pretty well, and I think it makes sense.  It also proves that sometimes I have too much time on my hands.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:29 PM

Hems...my goodness I wish I had an emotional connection...it does nothing for me beyond an appreciation for its flawless musicality.

Daft, I admire it. But 2112 moves me and is a lot more memorable.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:41 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 06 March 2015 - 04:29 PM, said:

Hems...my goodness I wish I had an emotional connection...it does nothing for me beyond an appreciation for its flawless musicality.

Daft, I admire it. But 2112 moves me and is a lot more memorable.
I have no emotional connection to Rush before Moving Pictures.  But  I have ears.  :)

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 04:45 PM

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View PostSegue Myles, on 06 March 2015 - 04:29 PM, said:

Hems...my goodness I wish I had an emotional connection...it does nothing for me beyond an appreciation for its flawless musicality.

Daft, I admire it. But 2112 moves me and is a lot more memorable.
I have no emotional connection to Rush before Moving Pictures.  But  I have ears.  :)

It just doesn't grab me...like I enter a really blissful state with Caress Of Steel, 2112 and AFTK rock so hard and frequently enlighten me...Hems just plays and when its done I just put it away for months on end and play Presto instead.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:32 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 06 March 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

View PostLorraine, on 06 March 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

View PostSegue Myles, on 06 March 2015 - 04:29 PM, said:

Hems...my goodness I wish I had an emotional connection...it does nothing for me beyond an appreciation for its flawless musicality.

Daft, I admire it. But 2112 moves me and is a lot more memorable.
I have no emotional connection to Rush before Moving Pictures.  But  I have ears.  :)

It just doesn't grab me...like I enter a really blissful state with Caress Of Steel, 2112 and AFTK rock so hard and frequently enlighten me...Hems just plays and when its done I just put it away for months on end and play Presto instead.

I think you'll come to appreciate it more as time goes on. It's very unique and quite different than the rest of their albums, leaning very much towards progressive rock. I think it's a shame they didn't do more albums in this vein since they did it so well.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:32 PM

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It just doesn't grab me...like I enter a really blissful state with Caress Of Steel, 2112 and AFTK rock so hard and frequently enlighten me...Hems just plays and when its done I just put it away for months on end and play Presto instead.

Every time you say Hems I think of pants.  Not like *pant, pant, pant* but, you know, trousers.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 05:33 PM

View PostSegue Myles, on 06 March 2015 - 04:45 PM, said:

View PostLorraine, on 06 March 2015 - 04:41 PM, said:

View PostSegue Myles, on 06 March 2015 - 04:29 PM, said:

Hems...my goodness I wish I had an emotional connection...it does nothing for me beyond an appreciation for its flawless musicality.

Daft, I admire it. But 2112 moves me and is a lot more memorable.
I have no emotional connection to Rush before Moving Pictures.  But  I have ears.  :)

It just doesn't grab me...like I enter a really blissful state with Caress Of Steel, 2112 and AFTK rock so hard and frequently enlighten me...Hems just plays and when its done I just put it away for months on end and play Presto instead.
Next hot and sunny day, I recommend you have yourself a nice drive in the English countryside and BLAST Hemispheres, hopefully it helps :smoke:

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 06:55 PM

View PostLedRush, on 06 March 2015 - 12:26 PM, said:

2112

Better, more varied, and more interesting music, better story-telling, and a better match between music and story.  I love Hemispheres, but this isn't a close call for me.

Excellent post.  Except I would go slightly further and say that I like Hemispheres, not love it.  Its a fine, ok, middle of the pack song.  Nothing wrong with it but nothing special.

2112, for all  the reasons listed, is far better.  Got my vote - no second thoughts needed.

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 07:47 PM

Hemispheres...2112   2112...Hemispheres   Hemispheres...2112   2112...Hemispheres   Hemispheres...2112   2112...Hemispheres   Hemispheres...2112   2112...Hemispheres




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