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#41 treeduck

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:50 PM

The new Star Trek show looks like crap, like a cheapo Babylon 5 rip-off! Andromeda looks more high tech!

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 01:00 PM

Honestly, it wasn't that bad.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:51 AM

I'm shocked at how badly the critics are missing the mark on this show.

Rotten Tomatos reports a critic score of 19%, but an audience score of 90%. Metacritic's critic score is 35%, with an audience score of 81%... IMDB's viewer rating is 7.8/10 stars.

It's pretty clear that viewers enjoyed the show... Responses I've read around Facebook, Reddit, etc... are overwhelmingly positive. Why are these supposed expert critics so out of touch?

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:55 AM

View PostKenJennings, on 13 September 2017 - 08:51 AM, said:

I'm shocked at how badly the critics are missing the mark on this show.

Rotten Tomatos reports a critic score of 19%, but an audience score of 90%. Metacritic's critic score is 35%, with an audience score of 81%... IMDB's viewer rating is 7.8/10 stars.

It's pretty clear that viewers enjoyed the show... Responses I've read around Facebook, Reddit, etc... are overwhelmingly positive. Why are these supposed expert critics so out of touch?
They usually are.
I enjoyed the show and I hope the ratings reflect what you're saying because that's all that networks care about.

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 03:32 PM

View Postworkingcinderellaman, on 13 September 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:

View PostKenJennings, on 13 September 2017 - 08:51 AM, said:

I'm shocked at how badly the critics are missing the mark on this show.

Rotten Tomatos reports a critic score of 19%, but an audience score of 90%. Metacritic's critic score is 35%, with an audience score of 81%... IMDB's viewer rating is 7.8/10 stars.

It's pretty clear that viewers enjoyed the show... Responses I've read around Facebook, Reddit, etc... are overwhelmingly positive. Why are these supposed expert critics so out of touch?
They usually are.
I enjoyed the show and I hope the ratings reflect what you're saying because that's all that networks care about.

At 8.6 million viewers, it is the highest rated hour-long network permier since 2014's Gotham. (excluding superbowl lead-outs).

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:34 PM

I'm missed it as it was preempted (rightfully) by hurricane coverage.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:35 AM

View PostJack Aubrey, on 11 September 2017 - 10:27 AM, said:

It was pretty funny and better than I expected. I'll be watching this one. But why did the helmsman have to loop around the bad guy ship so much? Why didn't he just sit behind the engine and fire away at point-blank range? I guess so they could make the Arbor Day joke?

I asked my wife the question about the loop maneuver. She said I should stop thinking so tactically all the time and just "enjoy the darn show"! :D So I will from now on.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:05 PM

I saw it the other night and thought it was a bit annoying how they felt like they had to insert a joke every two minutes. It felt very contrived.  I wanted to like the show but based on the premiere episode, I don't know that I care to watch any more.

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 12:06 AM

I had higher hopes for the first episode of orville. I haven't given up but it won't last.

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Posted 18 September 2017 - 09:40 AM

I get it! It's a "dramady"! I see what you did there, Seth. Last night's ep was pretty good, I look forward to the day we can tell a computer we want a cannibas brownie or what-have-you and have it appear before our eyes.:D I also wonder if the captain and XO are gonna do the Sam & Dianne thing or will they be back together within the season.

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 11:21 PM

Tonight's episode of The Orville was the most "Star Trek" thing that's been made since some of Voyager's better episodes. Really, really good balance of parable, drama and comedy... thought provoking without being off putting. Preachy without being insulting. True to the truest Trek form.

It's inspiring to see this kind of thing winning again.

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:51 PM

View PostKenJennings, on 21 September 2017 - 11:21 PM, said:

Tonight's episode of The Orville was the most "Star Trek" thing that's been made since some of Voyager's better episodes. Really, really good balance of parable, drama and comedy... thought provoking without being off putting. Preachy without being insulting. True to the truest Trek form.

It's inspiring to see this kind of thing winning again.
I agree that this is what they tried to do but I think they failed miserably.  I liked the first two episodes but the 3rd one jumped the shark to me.

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 09:43 PM

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Posted 28 September 2017 - 09:43 PM

Another great episode. Easily the most enjoyable series on TV right now for me.

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 12:55 AM

this week was the first episode i've liked

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Posted 30 September 2017 - 02:22 PM

4th episode was back on track

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Posted 01 October 2017 - 01:05 PM

Third ep felt more Trekian than first 2.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 08:56 AM

Given the facts that are coming out against Harvey Weinstein, and the fact that Seth MacFarlane is one of the only people in Hollywood who has ever publicly fired a shot in his direction, I have to wonder if that has affected the industry perceptions surrounding his career. More and more, it's seeming like Weinstein's pattern of abuse was widespread and blatant, covered only by a devoted industry cabal that was so afraid for their collective careers that they'd never speak out.

This tight-gripped level of control certainly seems capable of tilting the playing field against non-compliant rebels who have the integrity to stand up; and Seth MacFarlane was that non-compliant rebel.

In 2013, when MacFarlane was arguably at the height of his industry prominance, he used one of the biggest stages of his career- hosting the Oscars- to take a very public shot at Weinstein (a joke that he now acknowleges was very much intentional and pointed). Since then, his works have been relegated to a single production company despite a steady stream of loyal fans, most everything he's involved with recieves systematic critical panning from industry journalists, and his once rosy image at the forefront of Hollywood comedy now languishes despite a continued level of high-quality work.

I've got to wonder how much of this has been systematic. I've got to wonder how much his career was stunted by an industry, a corporate mafia, covering for one of its biggest dogs. I may be way off base here... (probably.) but it does seem odd to me. The industry reviews of The Orville were so far off of reality that I've been searching for an explanation... could this be it?

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 08:55 AM

I couldn't stop thinking about how last night's episode felt so much like 'if TOS was today'.

A morality play about an Earth Clone planet that's taken real-world behavior to an extreme; blunt social commentary; vaguely political overtones without getting too speicifc or divisive; countercultural and subversive solution... oh yea... the good stuff.

Set aside the clowning characters and the cheesy (though welcomed) jokes, and you could very easily imagine Kirk, Spock and McCoy visiting this planet; and having to deal with a similar situation.

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Posted 27 October 2017 - 11:59 AM

^^ Glad you like the show, and fourteen year-old wunderkind Seth McFarlane. To me though, last night's episode felt like a ham-fisted, lightweight imitation of the most clumsily allegorical of the socially-conscious original series episodes, like "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield." IOW, it pails horribly compared to even the worst of original series episodes.

I kind of liked The Orville at first. Though it was funny and well-done visually. Even signed up for Hulu so I could catch the early episodes I had missed. But each episode since is a decline in quality from the one before it, to where they've jumped the proverbial shark with last night's ridiculous moralizing. We 21st humans spend too much time up and down voting things without any real understanding of the underlying issues?!? And we lack empathy!?! You don't say. Only took sixty minutes to drive the point home. From the opening where they have to explain to the audience that in such a large universe there are bound to be other planets that parallel Earth's development, to the closing where a short visit to a starship turned that vapid, judgmental creep of a young lady into a thoughtful agent for social change, this was the most pathetic writing on prime time tv that I think I've ever seen. This series has become like a bad crowd-funded fan production, apart from the nice visuals. I'll have to cancel Hulu and stick to ST: Discovery.





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