dtpoet Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) Ok - I'm bored. Being from the northeast, I wondered why are secondary market tickets so high compared to places in the midwest. At first I thought maybe it was because of the cost of living. After a brief, unscientific anaylsis, I discovered that we are just better Rush fans. Here are 5 midwest shows: SITE:...........................CAPACITY..............TICKETS AVAILABLE ON STUBHUB....PERCENTAGE IN MARKET Lincoln NE....................14620....................................1081..............................................7.39%St. Louis, MO................22000....................................1590..............................................7.23%Austin, TX.....................14000....................................1107..............................................7.91%Dallas, TX.....................21000....................................1390..............................................6.62%Auburn Hills MI.............23000.....................................1971..............................................8.57%TOTAL..........................94620...................................7139...............................................7.54% Here are 5 northeast shows:SITE:............................CAPACITY.............TICKETS AVAILABLE ON STUBHUB.....PERCENTAGE IN MARKETBuffalo, NY...................18500.....................................456................................................2.46%Boston, MA...................19600.....................................517...............................................2.64%Philly, PA......................21000.....................................574................................................2.73%Newark, NJ...................19500.....................................713...............................................3.66%New York, NY...............20000.....................................953................................................4.77%TOTAL.........................98600...................................3213................................................3.26% As per the rules of supply and demand, the tickets in the midwest are less expensive because there are more of them available on the market - well - because they simply aren't as devoted and dedicated to the band as we are here in the northeast. At least if you're a mid-western, you can take solace that you are even more dedicated than the hometown crowd in Toronto whose stats runs 9.79% for the first show and a whopping 11.71% for the second. And here I thought the conventional wisdom was that Rush is a mid-western band..... :) Edited April 19, 2015 by dtpoet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apetersvt Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Or maybe the Northeast has more population centers. To state the northeast is more dedicated than the Midwest is very uneducated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Ok you're bored. So you take the opportunity to throw some Stubhub figures today to try to justify your insult of the Midwest. F off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtpoet Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Just having fun. I love the midwest. Went to college in Ohio. My oldest was born in Ohio. Again, just having some fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 No problem friend. Another way to look at it is I guess the brokers in the Northeast have you more by the b*lls. That means the 'fly overs' in the Midwest will see the same show cheaper than people in the Northeast. Works for me. I can probably afford 2 shows for one of yours. I have relatives in the Northeast. Same size house as mine at twice the cost. You can have the Northeast all day and Sunday. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabesCavesOfIce Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Ok - I'm bored. Being from the northeast, I wondered why are secondary market tickets so high compared to places in the midwest. At first I thought maybe it was because of the cost of living. After a brief, unscientific anaylsis, I discovered that we are just better Rush fans. Here are 5 midwest shows: SITE:...........................CAPACITY..............TICKETS AVAILABLE ON STUBHUB....PERCENTAGE IN MARKET Lincoln NE....................14620....................................1081..............................................7.39%St. Louis, MO................22000....................................1590..............................................7.23%Austin, TX.....................14000....................................1107..............................................7.91%Dallas, TX.....................21000....................................1390..............................................6.62%Auburn Hills MI.............23000.....................................1971..............................................8.57%TOTAL..........................94620...................................7139...............................................7.54% Here are 5 northeast shows:SITE:............................CAPACITY.............TICKETS AVAILABLE ON STUBHUB.....PERCENTAGE IN MARKETBuffalo, NY...................18500.....................................456................................................2.46%Boston, MA...................19600.....................................517...............................................2.64%Philly, PA......................21000.....................................574................................................2.73%Newark, NJ...................19500.....................................713...............................................3.66%New York, NY...............20000.....................................953................................................4.77%TOTAL.........................98600...................................3213................................................3.26% As per the rules of supply and demand, the tickets in the midwest are less expensive because there are more of them available on the market - well - because they simply aren't as devoted and dedicated to the band as we are here in the northeast. At least if you're a mid-western, you can take solace that you are even more dedicated than the hometown crowd in Toronto whose stats runs 9.79% for the first show and a whopping 11.71% for the second. And here I thought the conventional wisdom was that Rush is a mid-western band..... :) Very cool dt, as I looooove analytics. My experience in NY is that it doesn't really matter if the show is sold out. If the scalpels eh....scalpers....have 200 or 2000 seats to sell. There is just a lot of $$$$$$$ floating around in this city. And Rush fans here will pay big to sit close. And for some strange reason, maybe cuz it's such a treat seeing them drum and play their guitars up close, unlike many more popular bands, Rush fans like to sit "Closer to the Rush" Close seats were a mortgage payment on the CA tour, when two of the three shows here were far from sellouts. This tour, it's gonna take a leveraged buyout. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkPrattLerxst Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I hope the Lincoln, NE show gets more tickets sold, I wanna show Rush how we Iowans/Nebraskans love our Rush :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtpoet Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) No problem friend. Another way to look at it is I guess the brokers in the Northeast have you more by the b*lls. That means the 'fly overs' in the Midwest will see the same show cheaper than people in the Northeast. Works for me. I can probably afford 2 shows for one of yours. I have relatives in the Northeast. Same size house as mine at twice the cost. You can have the Northeast all day and Sunday. I hear ya. I grew up here, then went to northeast Ohio for college and stayed another 2 years in southeast Ohio (where my son was born). We moved back east 22 years ago. I miss Ohio every day. Wish we would have stayed. And I was bored with the chatter on here of late. Probably a bit of a jet lag on my part since I've visited the site multiple times a day every day since January. So I wanted to spark a friendly debate and also on a serious note analyze why there is this statistical difference. Edited April 19, 2015 by dtpoet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRogers Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I hope the Lincoln, NE show gets more tickets sold, I wanna show Rush how we Iowans/Nebraskans love our Rush :DNot as much as Oklahomans do. Says the Yankee transplant from NYC.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtpoet Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I hope the Lincoln, NE show gets more tickets sold, I wanna show Rush how we Iowans/Nebraskans love our Rush :DNot as much as Oklahomans do. Says the Yankee transplant from NYC. ;) That's the spirit, JR! I wonder - hmm - are Oklahomans better Rush fans than Nebraskans? LOL! Edited April 19, 2015 by dtpoet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkPrattLerxst Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I hope the Lincoln, NE show gets more tickets sold, I wanna show Rush how we Iowans/Nebraskans love our Rush :DNot as much as Oklahomans do. Says the Yankee transplant from NYC. ;) That's the spirit, JR! I wonder - hmm - are Oklahomans better Rush fans than Nebraskans? LOL! It's funny because they're playing in Oklahoma and Nebraska to kick off the tour. How many can fit inside the Bok Center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtpoet Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) I took all my capacity stats from each arenas wiki page. BOK has a capacity for 13,644 for Endstage (ie concert). I think SH showed about 411 tickets available. That's around 3.01%. Edited April 19, 2015 by dtpoet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Remember the total capacity for an arena is very seldom used....The Palace Of Auburn Hills might have a capacity of max 23,000...here are the boxscores from Detroit, Michigan from 1992 - 2012 06/26/92 The New Pine Knob Music Theatre 14,977 - 14,977 $325,96503/22/94 The Palace of Auburn Hills 29,696 - 29,696 $734,235 (03/22/94 & 03/27/94)03/27/94 The Palace of Auburn Hills10/25/96 The Palace of Auburn Hills 15,197 - 15,197 $467,30806/17/97 Pine Knob Music Theatre 13,409 - 14,500 $348,74308/11/02 DTE Energy Music Theatre 18,505 - 30,404 $823,692 (08/11/02 & 08/12/02)08/12/02 DTE Energy Music Theatre06/08/04 DTE Energy Music Theatre 10,835 - 15,074 $539,93208/28/07 DTE Energy Music Theatre 11,384 - 13,213 $602,30006/10/08 Joe Louis Arena 8,744 - 13,835 $571,30904/17/11 The Palace of Auburn Hills 9,987 - 9,987 $826,54909/18/12 The Palace of Auburn Hills 8,238 - 13,485 $616,595 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabesCavesOfIce Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Remember the total capacity for an arena is very seldom used....The Palace Of Auburn Hills might have a capacity of max 23,000...here are the boxscores from Detroit, Michigan from 1992 - 2012 06/26/92 The New Pine Knob Music Theatre 14,977 - 14,977 $325,96503/22/94 The Palace of Auburn Hills 29,696 - 29,696 $734,235 (03/22/94 & 03/27/94)03/27/94 The Palace of Auburn Hills10/25/96 The Palace of Auburn Hills 15,197 - 15,197 $467,30806/17/97 Pine Knob Music Theatre 13,409 - 14,500 $348,74308/11/02 DTE Energy Music Theatre 18,505 - 30,404 $823,692 (08/11/02 & 08/12/02)08/12/02 DTE Energy Music Theatre06/08/04 DTE Energy Music Theatre 10,835 - 15,074 $539,93208/28/07 DTE Energy Music Theatre 11,384 - 13,213 $602,30006/10/08 Joe Louis Arena 8,744 - 13,835 $571,30904/17/11 The Palace of Auburn Hills 9,987 - 9,987 $826,54909/18/12 The Palace of Auburn Hills 8,238 - 13,485 $616,595 Lest it be said the Counterparts tour came very close to taking the highest attendance here! I know, two shows. ;) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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