Snaked Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If they bring back 'Xanadu' for R40, do we get the double neck back in service? There was an interview at some point in the 80's where Geddy said he would never bring back the double Ricky. It's simply too heavy and uncomfortable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 At the very end of Xanadu, when Alex is playing those "from heaven" passages on his 12 string, Geddy actually uses a guitar pick ( ! ) and plays the descending line on his "guitar" neck .... it is a magical ending to a classic songI've been seing these guys live since Moving Pictures and don't recall seeing it. Some where this got asked, if they play A Passage to Bangkok and Xanadu will the double neck rick come out? They both used them last on the Moving Pictures tour. I'm glad I got to see it. It was so iconic at the time. Alex used a doubleneck on the CP tour. ETA: And on R30https://youtu.be/i3SSpmlPSI4 Hence her use of the word "both". Thank you. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If they bring back 'Xanadu' for R40, do we get the double neck back in service? There was an interview at some point in the 80's where Geddy said he would never bring back the double Ricky.It's simply too heavy and uncomfortable. No doubt. I'm sure that thing has got to tip the scale at around 20 lbs. He said he's already having to have a trainer due to the shoulder issues from lugging a bass around all of these years. It's very doubtful something that heavy would be played, even for one song. Personally I'll just be glad if they play Xanadu again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) At around the 10:50 mark, you can see Geddy playing the ending passages Edited March 27, 2015 by Lucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'd love to see that black double Ricky! I think I heard it's an ultra rare model.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I'm betting on no double neck for Al even if they play Xanadu for R40. There's ways he can mimick the 12 string sound with effects. Really it doesn't matter to me...the double neck thing is kind of gimmicky IMO. I just want to hear Xanadu regardless of their choice of gear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder what guitar Alex will use if they do play Xanadu; I highly doubt we'll see his double neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) I wonder what guitar Alex will use if they do play Xanadu; I highly doubt we'll see his double neckprobly his les paul with piezo's...i think the piezo's can give him an acoustic sound for the 12 string parts. Whatever he chooses, I'm sure he'll figure it out. he's been relying on the les pauls for most of the last 2 tours. he's sort of developed that axxess model to be a swiss army knife guitar. Edited March 27, 2015 by 2112FirstStreet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordercollie Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 They could put The Omega Concern to work and build doubleneck stands for them! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarizeMe Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 IIRC, Alex's double-neck is currently at the hands of the RRHOF, or at least at the time of the induction it was. I'm not even sure if it's still there or they gave it back to him. IDK what happened to Geddy's black doubleneck but as of 2013, the white doubleneck is currently at the Hard Rock Cafe vault which is closed to the public. Here's a picture of the white doubleneck as it appears in the Hard Rock Cafe vault. http://www.rushisaband.com/images/201308/2823.f.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeminiRising79 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Just that screenshot alone is enough to prove Geddy as a total badass!!!Is there any doubt aboot such matters? :) Geddy lost his badassness somewhere back in the 80s. Dropping the Rick is tied in there with significance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disk98 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Just that screenshot alone is enough to prove Geddy as a total badass!!!Is there any doubt aboot such matters? :) Geddy lost his badassness somewhere back in the 80s. Dropping the Rick is tied in there with significance.Agreed. But the Fender brought it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 With the Rick you hear the tone of the Rick but unfortunately with the Fender you are hearing nothing of the natural tone of the instrument, just a noise manipulated by technology! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 With the Rick you hear the tone of the Rick but unfortunately with the Fender you are hearing nothing of the natural tone of the instrument, just a noise manipulated by technology! I assume you're talking about the speaker simulators and the DI's? Rics have a very distinctive tone, but he did split the bass and treble pick up to different amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 As stated modern technology can transform an ordinary six string electric into,acoustic,bass,12 string or any sound you like all in a small box.I use to have a double 12/6 guitar ,a Ibanez copy of the Jimmy Page model.It was a very cumbersome instrument to play not to mention keep in tune.Now i have one of those boxes that transforms my six string.It would be great to see the doubles of Alex and Ged back on stage one more time but then we would have to bus in Neil's wind chimes,tubular bells,gongs,etc( which can all be triggered by a drum pad these days).I believe the double Ricks were custom orders and were not something that you could walk into a store and grab off the rack.Anyway Rick Neilson has the Rush guys all necked out with his Hamer 5 neck monster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 As stated modern technology can transform an ordinary six string electric into,acoustic,bass,12 string or any sound you like all in a small box.I use to have a double 12/6 guitar ,a Ibanez copy of the Jimmy Page model.It was a very cumbersome instrument to play not to mention keep in tune.Now i have one of those boxes that transforms my six string.It would be great to see the doubles of Alex and Ged back on stage one more time but then we would have to bus in Neil's wind chimes,tubular bells,gongs,etc( which can all be triggered by a drum pad these days).I believe the double Ricks were custom orders and were not something that you could walk into a store and grab off the rack.Anyway Rick Neilson has the Rush guys all necked out with his Hamer 5 neck monster. I don't know anything about guitars or these little boxes but I'm trying to wrap my brain around how something can make a guitar sound like it has twice as many strings..?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Technology has come along way since the days of Xanadu and Rush have always embraced it,they get plenty of real estate in music mags.The little boxes i talk about are basically sound effect devices which alter the sound of the guitar signal.Back in the days of Hendrix there was basically wah,distortion,octavier.Nowadays there is so many effect devices it would be bewidering to novice let alone a musician like me.Two of my amps have these effects built in.(they are called modelling amps).With a flick of a switch my electric sounds like an acoustic.Listen to Nobody's Hero live.For twelve string effect using a advanced version of the octavier you play a single note on the guitar which passes through this effect and out comes notes which are high or lower as well as the original note thus creating the 12 string sffect.The list goes on and on.Alex has come a long way since straight amp and guitar.Look at the video on the making of Snakes and Arrows and see him in the studio with a stack rack of effects units 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) As stated modern technology can transform an ordinary six string electric into,acoustic,bass,12 string or any sound you like all in a small box.I use to have a double 12/6 guitar ,a Ibanez copy of the Jimmy Page model.It was a very cumbersome instrument to play not to mention keep in tune.Now i have one of those boxes that transforms my six string.It would be great to see the doubles of Alex and Ged back on stage one more time but then we would have to bus in Neil's wind chimes,tubular bells,gongs,etc( which can all be triggered by a drum pad these days).I believe the double Ricks were custom orders and were not something that you could walk into a store and grab off the rack.Anyway Rick Neilson has the Rush guys all necked out with his Hamer 5 neck monster. I don't know anything about guitars or these little boxes but I'm trying to wrap my brain around how something can make a guitar sound like it has twice as many strings..??modern technology my friend. Al's Les Paul model with the Piezo pickups allow him to make the Les Paul sound like an acoustic. In years past he would have an acoustic mounted on a stand. That along with his almost endless amount of gizmos and effects to alter his sound would allow him to closely resemble the 12 string electric. For mortals such as myself, I hit my stereo chorus pedal when playing softer more acoustic-y parts so it takes more sound 'space' like a 12 string would. But I'm sure Al has more tools to do that than my simple stereo chorus box. Bottom line is that Al doesn't have to use the double neck to be able to produce the 12 string electric sound. And it probably would be easier to stomp on a switch that to switch necks all the time in the song. Al's a pro...I have confidence he can figure this out. Edited March 28, 2015 by 2112FirstStreet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasbo Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Alex said years ago that when Roland bought the chorus effect on their amps he felt naked when not using it.This would be about the time of 2112 /AFTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 As stated modern technology can transform an ordinary six string electric into,acoustic,bass,12 string or any sound you like all in a small box.I use to have a double 12/6 guitar ,a Ibanez copy of the Jimmy Page model.It was a very cumbersome instrument to play not to mention keep in tune.Now i have one of those boxes that transforms my six string.It would be great to see the doubles of Alex and Ged back on stage one more time but then we would have to bus in Neil's wind chimes,tubular bells,gongs,etc( which can all be triggered by a drum pad these days).I believe the double Ricks were custom orders and were not something that you could walk into a store and grab off the rack.Anyway Rick Neilson has the Rush guys all necked out with his Hamer 5 neck monster. I don't know anything about guitars or these little boxes but I'm trying to wrap my brain around how something can make a guitar sound like it has twice as many strings..?? A chorus pedal will do a pretty good job of it. What it does is duplicate the tone that goes in it, so it sounds bigger. Alex is known for his chorus pedal sound. It fattens up the tone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraroc Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Just that screenshot alone is enough to prove Geddy as a total badass!!!Is there any doubt aboot such matters? :) Geddy lost his badassness somewhere back in the 80s. Dropping the Rick is tied in there with significance. Ged was always too nice to be badass :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I would rather Geddy backed off a little with all the stuff he runs his Fenders through, it sounded better on MP and CP without all the effects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I would rather Geddy backed off a little with all the stuff he runs his Fenders through, it sounded better on MP and CP without all the effects! I agree. It sounds way too distorted now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Digital Man Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 He plays loads of different Fenders now including the fretless Jaco Pastorius model and they all have almost exactly the same synthetic tone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 He plays loads of different Fenders now including the fretless Jaco Pastorius model and they all have almost exactly the same synthetic tone! The amps have more influence on tone than the basses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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