bluefox4000 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I love the live in Paris DVD. meh.......Kimball's wrecking things......no paitch, No Porcaro's i'll pass. Mickhttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H7G4KU7zL.jpg Kimball ain't on this one! This one is in Paris. OH......i'm sorry. i thought you meant Falling in Between. That's also in Paris. but that paris one is good. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I love the live in Paris DVD. meh.......Kimball's wrecking things......no paitch, No Porcaro's i'll pass. Mickhttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H7G4KU7zL.jpg Kimball ain't on this one! This one is in Paris. OH......i'm sorry. i thought you meant Falling in Between. That's also in Paris. but that paris one is good. Mick Nope. I will probably never watch the Kimball DVD's again. I really cannot take his excruciating wailing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I will watch the 25th DVD because in between Kimball there's a great show going on, lol. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 I will watch the 25th DVD because in between Kimball there's a great show going on, lol. Mick I agree. But I still want to punch the wall whenever I see his face. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DadRockGirl Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DadRockGirl Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Girl Goodbye anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). Edited October 30, 2015 by Segue Myles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). i noticed you cooled on FIB. I haven't. I think it's just as good as some classic stuff. i really do. Toto XIV blows it away though. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). i noticed you cooled on FIB. I haven't. I think it's just as good as some classic stuff. i really do. Toto XIV blows it away though. Mick I haven't cooled on my favourite songs, no way! But as an album, it doesn't sustain my interest. And King Of The World has some of the most obnoxiously bad lyrics of any Toto song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). Hey, now...was that really necessary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Well, guys, so I tried out Hydra, and... It's okay. I didn't find it totally brilliant. Excellent musicianship, to be sure. But nothing that really made me scream out and beg for more. Did they have multiple different members of the band taking lead vocals on various different songs, even that early? I had thought it was all Kimball, up until he was replaced in the band, and then they all started sharing those duties. But it seems I'm wrong about that. There was a vocalist I heard on at least a couple of songs who I'm sure is not Kimball- he sounded a lot like Bill Champlin, who joined Chicago during the '80s, and did a lot of the lead vocals after Peter Cetera left. Anyway...I just wanted to contribute something after having actually listened to an entire album. ;) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Well, guys, so I tried out Hydra, and... It's okay. I didn't find it totally brilliant. Excellent musicianship, to be sure. But nothing that really made me scream out and beg for more. Did they have multiple different members of the band taking lead vocals on various different songs, even that early? I had thought it was all Kimball, up until he was replaced in the band, and then they all started sharing those duties. But it seems I'm wrong about that. There was a vocalist I heard on at least a couple of songs who I'm sure is not Kimball- he sounded a lot like Bill Champlin, who joined Chicago during the '80s, and did a lot of the lead vocals after Peter Cetera left. Anyway...I just wanted to contribute something after having actually listened to an entire album. ;) Hydra is certainly a sophmore slump album. Their debut and subsequent albums are much better. Yes they Had multiple vocalists. You Had Steve Lukather. And David Paitch. aand the lead vocal position was a revolving door. Originally you had Bobby Kimball. he was on the first 4. Then Fergie Frederikson joined for 1 mediocre album. then you had My fav. Joseph Williams. He rejoined in 2010 and is with the group today. Mick Edited October 31, 2015 by bluefox4000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I knew that Lukather and Paitch did some lead vocals, too. I guess I was just confused about the time frame(s). I thought that Kimball was THE singer, the only lead vocalist, early on. I will check out a bit of the other early ones then, too. I haven't been able to find any samples of Turn Back thus far yet, though. (Though admittedly, I haven't been searching all that much yet, either). Edited October 31, 2015 by Blue J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Yeah, I knew that Lukather and Paitch did some lead vocals, too. I guess I was just confused about the time frame(s). I thought that Kimball was THE singer, the only lead vocalist, early on. I will check out a bit of the other early ones then, too. I haven't been able to find any samples of Turn Back thus far yet, though. (Though admittedly, I haven't been searching all that much yet, either). you would think that. Cause all the Hits from that period had Kimbal leading. but on their albums the other shared vocal duty with Kimball. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Hydra took a few years to grow on me. I really like it now, but Toto and Turn Back were much better. They really hit their stride with IV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). Hey, now...was that really necessary? Of the three recent Toto albums, and three recent Rush, I would rank them as follows: 1. XIV2. Vapor Trails3. Falling In Between4. Snakes And Arrows5. Clockwork Angels6. Mindfields 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue J Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). Hey, now...was that really necessary? Of the three recent Toto albums, and three recent Rush, I would rank them as follows: 1. XIV2. Vapor Trails3. Falling In Between4. Snakes And Arrows5. Clockwork Angels6. Mindfields I see. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Live in poland is really the only Toto DVD you need. The others are Good.......but just when your getting in the groove......here comes bobby Kimball. and it's like man........SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!! Mick I hate that guy! I can barely even listen to Goodybye Girl anymore because I have a face to put to the voice now...and a stupid one at that. I dunno why he was chosen at all. there were no other singers around? Annoying.......from his stage presence......to the way he shakes his head when he holds a note. To he way he yells STEVE LUKATHAR!!!!!!! Before the solo in Hold the Line. EVERYTHING. Mick Its amazing how much I love Toto that I can forgive Kimball. I cannot really stand Dennis DeYoung, and it has ruined Styx for me. But I dislike Kimball more, and yet I really dig the first four albums, and could rank them all easily on the high end of any rock album list. just the fact that they released a classic 4 despite Kimball is amazing.......but then again his singing was more restrained back then. Mindfeilds came and he became Mr. Shouty. Mick Exactly. And try as I might, Falling In Between has some excellence, but a lot of meh. (Still a better album than Clockwork Angels). Hey, now...was that really necessary? Of the three recent Toto albums, and three recent Rush, I would rank them as follows: 1. XIV2. Vapor Trails3. Falling In Between4. Snakes And Arrows5. Clockwork Angels6. Mindfields I see. ;) True story broski! I would rank Hydra above CA as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital Dad Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Toto will never top Rush for me aside from their abilty to write really good pop songs. Africa is perfect but so is Natural Science. So is Red Barchetta. YYZ same. Edge :Rush. But I take music for what it is. I don't like Calling All Stations because it is a good Genesis album but because it is a good album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 I would keep every Toto album. But I wouldn't keep every Rush album. My favourite Rush Albums, MP, AFTK and HYF, I would swap for Fahrenheit without any doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boots Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I listen to Toto's greatest hits in the early morning & late afternoon while I take the train to & from work. Their music reminds me of a simpler time before my life became totally f***ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) I would keep every Toto album. But I wouldn't keep every Rush album. My favourite Rush Albums, MP, AFTK and HYF, I would swap for Fahrenheit without any doubt in my mind. i wouldn't do that for even Toto. i trade in Isolation and Mindfeilds for HYF and PoW so fast your head would spin, lol Mick Edited October 31, 2015 by bluefox4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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