KenJennings Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I sincerely doubt you could get a jury in Texas to rule that as child abuse... but apparently the ruling of a court doesn't matter. The court of public opinion has already spoken. And mob mentality rules all in today's America, because nobody has a spine anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I sincerely doubt you could get a jury in Texas to rule that as child abuse... but apparently the ruling of a court doesn't matter. The court of public opinion has already spoken. And mob mentality rules all in today's America, because nobody has a spine anymore. Ain't that the fu***** truth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 From a Press Release: Eden Prairie, MN (September 12, 2014) – The Vikings are in the process of gathering information regarding the legal situation involving Adrian Peterson. At this time, we will defer further questions to Adrian’s attorney Rusty Hardin. Read more: http://www.kfan.com/onair/vikings-blog-38526/vikings-release-statement-regarding-12760847/#ixzz3D8qSl6LD IIRC, Hardin was Roger Clemens' attorney. He was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I sincerely doubt you could get a jury in Texas to rule that as child abuse... but apparently the ruling of a court doesn't matter. The court of public opinion has already spoken. And mob mentality rules all in today's America, because nobody has a spine anymore.They probably saw last week's game, and thought that Matt Asiata could run for a buck fifty against that defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 An arrest warrant has been issued. Mr. Kraft has alerted the MA state police about where Peterson can be found Sunday at 1 pm. You can't be too safe with violent criminals you know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 LABT you want to change your pick 4 selections? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 LABT you want to change your pick 4 selections?Nope. Matt Asiata is a fine back who scores 3 TDs every time he starts. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 This is the kind of s** that needs to be taken care of at home early on growing up. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Principled Man Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. Right, so if a child was going to walk out in front of a truck, or pull a pan of boiling water on itself, smacking would be inappropriate? Adults have a duty of care towards children, and sometimes that means discipline instilled through corporal punishment. We could come up with a million different scenarios of disciplining children, couldn't we? When children make innocent mistakes (like walking out into traffic), they do so out of inexperience. They're CHILDREN - not punks who are out to piss you off. Smacking the child for making an innocent mistake is a sign that the parent is just being angry and cruel. You get the child out of harm's way, and then by all means, scold him/her about the dangers of walking into traffic or grabbing the pot of boiling water. Parents have a duty to be rational and fair - not angry and cruel. That way, children will respect you in the future....instead of fearing and hating you. Corporal punishment is sometimes necessary, but it should be done as rarely as possible, and only when the child is intentionally disrespectful and/or hurtful. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenJennings Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse. Edited September 12, 2014 by KenJennings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him.Seriously?...I may have to get "off board" the NFL sooner than I thought. I was gonna wait till Snyder changed the name or guys started getting penalties for stuff they say on the field but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him.Seriously?...I may have to get "off board" the NFL sooner than I thought. I was gonna wait till Snyder changed the name or guys started getting penalties for stuff they say on the field but..... It's a prediction, but given the hullabaloo over Rice, I think it's a pretty safe one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him.Seriously?...I may have to get "off board" the NFL sooner than I thought. I was gonna wait till Snyder changed the name or guys started getting penalties for stuff they say on the field but..... It's a prediction, but given the hullabaloo over Rice, I think it's a pretty safe one.I am just glad I am older and have the conviction to do it. When I was younger I would have let this kind of sh*t slide. But f**k'em now. Soon they won't be getting a dime form me if they keep this sh*t up.... :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him.Seriously?...I may have to get "off board" the NFL sooner than I thought. I was gonna wait till Snyder changed the name or guys started getting penalties for stuff they say on the field but..... It's a prediction, but given the hullabaloo over Rice, I think it's a pretty safe one.I am just glad I am older and have the conviction to do it. When I was younger I would have let this kind of sh*t slide. But f**k'em now. Soon they won't be getting a dime form me if they keep this sh*t up.... :|I'll never be able to give up the NFL. Well, maybe the second Monday night game in Week 1. At least until I retire and don't have to go to work the next day. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him.Seriously?...I may have to get "off board" the NFL sooner than I thought. I was gonna wait till Snyder changed the name or guys started getting penalties for stuff they say on the field but..... It's a prediction, but given the hullabaloo over Rice, I think it's a pretty safe one.I am just glad I am older and have the conviction to do it. When I was younger I would have let this kind of sh*t slide. But f**k'em now. Soon they won't be getting a dime form me if they keep this sh*t up.... :|I'll never be able to give up the NFL. Well, maybe the second Monday night game in Week 1. At least until I retire and don't have to go to work the next day. :)I gotta stand up for principle at some point in my life. I watch no baseball anymore and haven't missed it at all..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I don't think there's a formula to raising humans. I generally don't like the idea of corporal punishment, but even in cases where corporal punishment goes a little too far (this case, for instance), I still have a very hard time calling it abuse. There are varying cultural attitudes toward corporal punishment, and absolutely no consensus on the practice. So what I see here is a guy who acted in the honest belief that he was disciplining his child. If he'd been acting in truly abusive anger, it would be a lot worse. This, unlike the case of Ray Rice's closed fist knockout of his wife, is a case where counselling and education is appropriate, rather than deterrent punishment or confinement. And really, the NFL should butt out. Even if Adrian Peterson did the wrong thing, I really don't believe he did it for the wrong reasons. He doesn't seem to be running from the accusations, and I really don't believe he crossed the threshold into abuse.After the Ray Rice incident, there's no way the NFL is not going to punish him.Seriously?...I may have to get "off board" the NFL sooner than I thought. I was gonna wait till Snyder changed the name or guys started getting penalties for stuff they say on the field but..... It's a prediction, but given the hullabaloo over Rice, I think it's a pretty safe one.I am just glad I am older and have the conviction to do it. When I was younger I would have let this kind of sh*t slide. But f**k'em now. Soon they won't be getting a dime form me if they keep this sh*t up.... :|I'll never be able to give up the NFL. Well, maybe the second Monday night game in Week 1. At least until I retire and don't have to go to work the next day. :)I gotta stand up for principle at some point in my life. I watch no baseball anymore and haven't missed it at all.....Probably couldn't do that either but it would be infinitely easier (if such a thing is possible) than the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 If it was like this when I was a kid there wouldn't have been an adult to be found within 30 square miles of my house. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Multiple reports, including TMZ, Fox Sports and the Fox affiliate in Houston, said Peterson was indicted on Thursday in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said the indictment stems from Peterson disciplining his son with a switch, which is a flexible rod. According to TMZ, unnamed sources said the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota, who was visiting Peterson at the running back's home in Texas this past May. When the child returned home to his mother in Minnesota, she noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor, TMZ siad. TMZ added the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Peterson. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer said Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and has to turn himself in to authorities. His status for this weekend's game against New England is unclear, Glazer said. Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy. Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. According to this picture, there are welts, not only on the butt but on the legs. It looks pretty bad to me. I've had worse than that climbing trees when I was a kid.They weren't inflicted by an adult though. Good point, Big difference. I never in my life had any broken skin after an a** whoopin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Multiple reports, including TMZ, Fox Sports and the Fox affiliate in Houston, said Peterson was indicted on Thursday in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said the indictment stems from Peterson disciplining his son with a switch, which is a flexible rod. According to TMZ, unnamed sources said the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota, who was visiting Peterson at the running back's home in Texas this past May. When the child returned home to his mother in Minnesota, she noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor, TMZ siad. TMZ added the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Peterson. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer said Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and has to turn himself in to authorities. His status for this weekend's game against New England is unclear, Glazer said. Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy. Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. According to this picture, there are welts, not only on the butt but on the legs. It looks pretty bad to me. I've had worse than that climbing trees when I was a kid.They weren't inflicted by an adult though. Good point, Big difference. I never in my life had any broken skin after an a** whoopin'.Me neither. Got plenty of spankings. Was never hit on the legs like this nor did I receive any welts or broken skin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Just thought about something, Since the Ray Rice fu**up by the NFL. This helps them cover there tracks. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Multiple reports, including TMZ, Fox Sports and the Fox affiliate in Houston, said Peterson was indicted on Thursday in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said the indictment stems from Peterson disciplining his son with a switch, which is a flexible rod. According to TMZ, unnamed sources said the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota, who was visiting Peterson at the running back's home in Texas this past May. When the child returned home to his mother in Minnesota, she noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor, TMZ siad. TMZ added the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Peterson. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer said Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and has to turn himself in to authorities. His status for this weekend's game against New England is unclear, Glazer said. Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy. Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. According to this picture, there are welts, not only on the butt but on the legs. It looks pretty bad to me. I've had worse than that climbing trees when I was a kid.They weren't inflicted by an adult though. Good point, Big difference. I never in my life had any broken skin after an a** whoopin'.Me neither. Got plenty of spankings. Was never hit on the legs like this nor did I receive any welts or broken skin.Me too ^^^^^ and look how we turned out.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Multiple reports, including TMZ, Fox Sports and the Fox affiliate in Houston, said Peterson was indicted on Thursday in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said the indictment stems from Peterson disciplining his son with a switch, which is a flexible rod. According to TMZ, unnamed sources said the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota, who was visiting Peterson at the running back's home in Texas this past May. When the child returned home to his mother in Minnesota, she noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor, TMZ siad. TMZ added the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Peterson. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer said Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and has to turn himself in to authorities. His status for this weekend's game against New England is unclear, Glazer said. Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy. Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. According to this picture, there are welts, not only on the butt but on the legs. It looks pretty bad to me. I've had worse than that climbing trees when I was a kid.They weren't inflicted by an adult though. Good point, Big difference. I never in my life had any broken skin after an a** whoopin'.Me neither. Got plenty of spankings. Was never hit on the legs like this nor did I receive any welts or broken skin.Me too ^^^^^ and look how we turned out....How'd I turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Multiple reports, including TMZ, Fox Sports and the Fox affiliate in Houston, said Peterson was indicted on Thursday in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said the indictment stems from Peterson disciplining his son with a switch, which is a flexible rod. According to TMZ, unnamed sources said the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota, who was visiting Peterson at the running back's home in Texas this past May. When the child returned home to his mother in Minnesota, she noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor, TMZ siad. TMZ added the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Peterson. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer said Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and has to turn himself in to authorities. His status for this weekend's game against New England is unclear, Glazer said. Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy. Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. According to this picture, there are welts, not only on the butt but on the legs. It looks pretty bad to me. I've had worse than that climbing trees when I was a kid.They weren't inflicted by an adult though. Good point, Big difference. I never in my life had any broken skin after an a** whoopin'.Me neither. Got plenty of spankings. Was never hit on the legs like this nor did I receive any welts or broken skin.Me too ^^^^^ and look how we turned out....How'd I turn out? A conservative who loves Rush. Could be worse.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Multiple reports, including TMZ, Fox Sports and the Fox affiliate in Houston, said Peterson was indicted on Thursday in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said the indictment stems from Peterson disciplining his son with a switch, which is a flexible rod. According to TMZ, unnamed sources said the alleged victim is a male child from Minnesota, who was visiting Peterson at the running back's home in Texas this past May. When the child returned home to his mother in Minnesota, she noticed injuries and took the child to a doctor, TMZ siad. TMZ added the doctor contacted authorities in Texas to report Peterson. Fox Sports' Jay Glazer said Peterson has been cooperating with law enforcement, and has to turn himself in to authorities. His status for this weekend's game against New England is unclear, Glazer said. Child Protective Services confirmed to TMZ that they are working on a case involving Peterson and an 11-year-old boy. Physical disciplining of a child is always subject to interpretation. Obviously, parents go too far from time to time. Unfortunately, some parents go WAY too far. In my opinion, if your discipline causes bruises, welts, cuts, etc., then you're going too far. Young children don't deserve such injuries, no matter what they've done. According to this picture, there are welts, not only on the butt but on the legs. It looks pretty bad to me. I've had worse than that climbing trees when I was a kid.They weren't inflicted by an adult though. Good point, Big difference. I never in my life had any broken skin after an a** whoopin'.Me neither. Got plenty of spankings. Was never hit on the legs like this nor did I receive any welts or broken skin.Me too ^^^^^ and look how we turned out.... We hated getting what we most likely deserved back then. But in the long run, it made me think twice about what I did and who I was hanging out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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