laughedatbytime Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snakes & Arrows. Geddys voice on CA really sucks and the songs have no heart. The only songs that stand out are Caravan, Headlong Flight and The Garden. The rest of it is just one long drone to me.Rollingstone could use a great perspective such as this—spot on. It's just crap Glad you agree.Just trollin' for S&A. CA is the endlessly deep and powerful. S&A is an ant compared to the gigantic accomplishment that is Clockwork Angels. Oh please. What's so accomplished about CA? It's a shallow, depressing, noisy mess and some of Neil's worst lyrics. And i never thought i'd say this as an Atheist. Knock off the Atheistic lyrics and pick a different topic. It seems to me like neil is stuck there. It might be me. but it jumps out every time. MickI view CA less as about atheism and more about the hubris and even evil of statists who seek to control everything in the world around us...if anything the watchmaker was a less malignant figure than some of the more evil statists we see in the world today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Lee Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snakes & Arrows. Geddys voice on CA really sucks and the songs have no heart. The only songs that stand out are Caravan, Headlong Flight and The Garden. The rest of it is just one long drone to me.Rollingstone could use a great perspective such as this—spot on. It's just crap Glad you agree.Just trollin' for S&A. CA is the endlessly deep and powerful. S&A is an ant compared to the gigantic accomplishment that is Clockwork Angels. Oh please. What's so accomplished about CA? It's a shallow, depressing, noisy mess and some of Neil's worst lyrics. And i never thought i'd say this as an Atheist. Knock off the Atheistic lyrics and pick a different topic. It seems to me like neil is stuck there. It might be me. but it jumps out every time. MickI view CA less as about atheism and more about the hubris and even evil of statists who seek to control everything in the world around us...if anything the watchmaker was a less malignant figure than some of the more evil statists we see in the world today. http://www.marklevinshow.com/images/featured_image/0/paired_modules/6/1394586073_stretch.png 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutlefan Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 You ever have an album that just makes you angry. That's CA for me. and i know i harp on it but it really goes back to the production. Even the songs i like are marred by it. Espicially after S&A which sounded great to me. MickVT is the same for me. There are mostly good songs under the noise somewhere..... Just got to give the Remixed version a listen or two straight through. Doesn't make your head hurt, and you might find yourself saying at some point, "Sheee*t, this is some good stuff!" Just maybe.Is 6 times enough?..... The remixed version? If you've listened to that six times with nothing to show for it, then I guess it aint happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaghetti Lee Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 You ever have an album that just makes you angry. That's CA for me. and i know i harp on it but it really goes back to the production. Even the songs i like are marred by it. Espicially after S&A which sounded great to me. MickVT is the same for me. There are mostly good songs under the noise somewhere..... Just got to give the Remixed version a listen or two straight through. Doesn't make your head hurt, and you might find yourself saying at some point, "Sheee*t, this is some good stuff!" Just maybe.Is 6 times enough?..... The remixed version? If you've listened to that six times with nothing to show for it, then I guess it aint happening. That's because the original is MUCH better even though it's sizzly and distorted. But, it's not empty, it doesn't have massively reverbed WAAAAY too loud vocals and parts missing along with parts added. And, although everything is a wall of noise, it gels together that way because it was WRITTEN to sound like that. Separated mush is still mush...adding digital reverb and separating sloppily played poorly recorded chunka chunka bass and guitar parts does not a good mix make. The remix sucks balls because it absolutely HAS no balls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snakes & Arrows. Geddys voice on CA really sucks and the songs have no heart. The only songs that stand out are Caravan, Headlong Flight and The Garden. The rest of it is just one long drone to me.Rollingstone could use a great perspective such as this—spot on. It's just crap Glad you agree.Just trollin' for S&A. CA is the endlessly deep and powerful. S&A is an ant compared to the gigantic accomplishment that is Clockwork Angels. Oh please. What's so accomplished about CA? It's a shallow, depressing, noisy mess and some of Neil's worst lyrics. And i never thought i'd say this as an Atheist. Knock off the Atheistic lyrics and pick a different topic. It seems to me like neil is stuck there. It might be me. but it jumps out every time. MickI view CA less as about atheism and more about the hubris and even evil of statists who seek to control everything in the world around us...if anything the watchmaker was a less malignant figure than some of the more evil statists we see in the world today. And it's not like Neil went easy on the anarchist. The album ends at a garden like Candide's into which the protagonist recedes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snakes & Arrows. Geddys voice on CA really sucks and the songs have no heart. The only songs that stand out are Caravan, Headlong Flight and The Garden. The rest of it is just one long drone to me.Rollingstone could use a great perspective such as this—spot on. It's just crap Glad you agree.Just trollin' for S&A. CA is the endlessly deep and powerful. S&A is an ant compared to the gigantic accomplishment that is Clockwork Angels. Oh please. What's so accomplished about CA? It's a shallow, depressing, noisy mess and some of Neil's worst lyrics.It's a work of art. Even has a cool album cover. You sound a bit cranky and bitter...need a TRF hug? Even between the songs there's cool stuff. Not cranky at all, just stating my opinion. Compared to their older stuff CA just doesn't measure up, production-wise or song-wise. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pause Rewind Replay Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Here's how I rank the songs on each album, then compared against each other: S&A CATMMB Clockwork AngelsFar Cry CaravanWTA BU2BA&Sword 7COGWe Hold On The AnarchistTWTWB CarniesLarger Bowl HLFMalNar WreckersBravestFace Wish Them WellFaithless Halo Effect GoodNews1st The GardenHope BU2B2Spindrift S&A is a pretty good album, but even its 6 best songs lose out to CA's parade of jaw-droppers. And once you get to the bottom half, CA it from pillar to post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Here's how I rank the songs on each album, then compared against each other: S&A CATMMB Clockwork AngelsFar Cry CaravanWTA BU2BA&Sword 7COGWe Hold On The AnarchistTWTWB CarniesLarger Bowl HLFMalNar WreckersBravestFace Wish Them WellFaithless Halo Effect GoodNews1st The GardenHope BU2B2Spindrift S&A is a pretty good album, but even its 6 best songs lose out to CA's parade of jaw-droppers. And once you get to the bottom half, CA it from pillar to post.Well said! 66 minutes of amazing craft and heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WavesandWindows Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 God, I totally hated Clockwork Angels. Worst thing of theirs ever. I hope they don't continue along this path for their next album if there is one, because this is the worst possible thing for them to leave on! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x1yyz Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snakes & Arrows. Geddys voice on CA really sucks and the songs have no heart. The only songs that stand out are Caravan, Headlong Flight and The Garden. The rest of it is just one long drone to me.Rollingstone could use a great perspective such as this—spot on. It's just crap Glad you agree.Just trollin' for S&A. CA is the endlessly deep and powerful. S&A is an ant compared to the gigantic accomplishment that is Clockwork Angels. Heh, the sarcasm on your original post came through, at least for me :laughing yellow guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels "Way the Wind Blows" is a very strong track though and challenges anything on CA, so I will say that.I'll bet you're on drugs, 'cause you be trippin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x1yyz Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels all the way, baby! It is their best album since the early 80s. It's got power, balls, emotion, a cohesive story—it's everything I love about Rush wrapped up into a ball of fantastic. How can that even begin to compare to the dung ball of S&A, which only has one song that I really like (Far Cry), and a whole lot of mediocre to crap? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x1yyz Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels "Way the Wind Blows" is a very strong track though and challenges anything on CA, so I will say that.I'll bet you're on drugs, 'cause you be trippin. Ack! TWTWB is something I skip past as soon as it comes on. The intro is blues! I HATE blues! Aaaaah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels...one of their best albums. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Snakes & Arrows. Geddys voice on CA really sucks and the songs have no heart. The only songs that stand out are Caravan, Headlong Flight and The Garden. The rest of it is just one long drone to me.Rollingstone could use a great perspective such as this—spot on. It's just crap Glad you agree.Just trollin' for S&A. CA is the endlessly deep and powerful. S&A is an ant compared to the gigantic accomplishment that is Clockwork Angels. Oh please. What's so accomplished about CA? It's a shallow, depressing, noisy mess and some of Neil's worst lyrics. And i never thought i'd say this as an Atheist. Knock off the Atheistic lyrics and pick a different topic. It seems to me like neil is stuck there. It might be me. but it jumps out every time. MickI view CA less as about atheism and more about the hubris and even evil of statists who seek to control everything in the world around us...if anything the watchmaker was a less malignant figure than some of the more evil statists we see in the world today. And it's not like Neil went easy on the anarchist. The album ends at a garden like Candide's into which the protagonist recedes.True dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombstone Mountain Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels "Way the Wind Blows" is a very strong track though and challenges anything on CA, so I will say that.I'll bet you're on drugs, 'cause you be trippin. Ack! TWTWB is something I skip past as soon as it comes on. The intro is blues! I HATE blues! Aaaaah!To me the bright spots on S&A are the instrumentals. They're fantastic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutman Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) I enjoy both albums but it's CA for me. :D Edited July 26, 2014 by troutman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels...one of their best albums. But you voted for snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels "Way the Wind Blows" is a very strong track though and challenges anything on CA, so I will say that.I'll bet you're on drugs, 'cause you be trippin. Ack! TWTWB is something I skip past as soon as it comes on. The intro is blues! I HATE blues! Aaaaah!To me the bright spots on S&A are the instrumentals. They're fantastic There's a bright spot on S&A? I'll give it yet another listen today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
len(songs) Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) TWTWB is indeed great. CA trumps it and the rest of S&A however. Edited July 26, 2014 by len(songs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachenFoot Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels. Not even close. The only place S&A has the edge is production. Everything is so crisp and clear on that album which makes it a treat to listen to. Everything else about CA is miles better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Clockwork Angels. Not even close.S & A a treat to listen to. Everything else about CA is miles better. :) Lorraine ^^^^^^^ Edited July 26, 2014 by Narpski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Na na na Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels...one of their best albums. But you voted for snakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Clockwork Angels. Not even close.S & A a treat to listen to. Everything else about CA is miles better. :) Lorraine ^^^^^^^ It's a treat to listen to all right. Put on your bravest face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachenFoot Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I do think S&A sucks a lot. Give me an EP of Far Cry, Armor & Sword, Working them Angels, TMMB, Good News First, and I'm content. Production wise, Nick R. did a really fine job. Really confused about his failure on CA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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