Did Alex rip off the ending riff in Xanadu

[ReRushed]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

2112, baby, 2112.

[goose]

What's next, a suggestion that Jimmy Page borrowed from predecessors?

[tas7]

NO, I'm sure some guitarist in the stone age moved an E up and down the neck. Here's my variation for a song I wrote called Flashflood. E - A- F#- B for the verse, F# - A - B - F# - A - E for the chorus. The bridge is C# - A - C# - A - C# - A - D - E. You can hear the way it sounds on any of my websites. Edited November 4, 2013 by tas7

[goose]

NO, I'm sure some guitarist in the stone age moved an E up and down the neck. Here's my variation for a song I wrote called Flashflood. E - A- F#- B for the verse, F# - A - B - F# - A - E for the chorus. The bridge is C# - A - C# - A - C# - A - D - E. You can hear the it sounds on any of my websites.

f*ckin' Tazzies. Always stealin' someone's shit...

[ReRushed]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

[Ged Lent's sis]

This thread is too friggin' long! My god. I was gonna multiquote my faves and riff on everybody but this is ridiculous... anyway here goes:::

 

Alex is a genius. That word gets thrown around a lot, but here it applies. There is a reason a lot of Rush fans and guitar players think that he is underrated: he is in a band with two guys that have the "greatest" rep because of their creative, but mostly technical proficiency. But if—and I only say "if"... IF there is only one musical genius in Rush, it is Alex Lifeson.

 

I say this by way of introll to the greater point, which is that he is well aware of his co-opting of bits & bobs and incorporating them into his oevre. The fact is, the very nature of composition, classical, jazz, pop, and otherwise has a rich tradition of phrasal reference. It's what artists do. And if they are aware of it, it is to their credit.

 

To wit: Alex' intro to In the Mood is an uncanny rework of the intro to the piece of the same name made most famous by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra. But that song had already been arranged by Joe Garland and Andy Razaf, which itself was based on a pre-existing melody. The main theme, featuring repeated arpeggios rhythmically displaced, previously appeared under the title of Tar Paper Stomp credited to trumpeter and bandleader Wingy Manone. Horace Henderson used the same tune in Hot and Anxious, recorded by his brother's band, The Fletcher Henderson Orchestra in 1931.

 

And if the climax to his solo on The Camera Eye isn't an intentional nod to the same by Mark Knopfler in Sultans of Swing, I'll smoke a pound of smudgy finger-grease on the number buttons of an old-timey jukebox.

 

Now, the La Villa Strangiato thing... Rush clearly nicked Raymond Scott's Powerhouse for that, but I'm guessing here that Al and Ged were sitting around getting high and watching Bugs Bunny cartoons and not knowing better, decided to use that phrase. ;) Anyway, that was all settled amicably... Rush realized their mistake and it was all taken care of.

 

I don't know the story here. I never thought of it as a mistake. What, did they have to pay the Scott Estate or something?

 

You gotta BS degree right? That's awesome bro. Artistic Sequestration. Good band name.

 

Cease and desist!! My band name is Autistic Equestrian and I'll sue (cuz I just know that all my fans would confuse Artistic Sequestration's albums for mine).

 

On the other side i heard about eight years ago now, a later day King Crimson album from a friend of mine at work who is a Crimson fanatic a guitar riff that sounded identical to i believe it was to Freeze from Vapor Trails. Played it to my buddy and he had to admit 'holy shit it is!'.. Couldn't tell ya the King Crimson song or album but i'm pretty sure it came out shortly after Rush Vapor Trails..

 

It could only be from The Power to Believe, then. Though, to be honest, I think it is more likely Robert Fripp's copping the same style of riff as old as Larks' Tongues in Aspic II, which would pre-date any RUSH recordings. In other words: guitarists/musicians rip themselves off repeatedly. Moreoever, the riffs in question are "Prog" DNA, which are in turn part and parcel of 20th century symphony orchestra bombast.

 

Clearly Journey got in their delorean and plagiarized xanadu.

 

Okay, that's the money ^quote ^right ^there. And this is where I go off the vapor rails . . .

 

You may not know how close to the truth you are. As many of you know, all famous people are members of a secret organization within another secret organization within two more of run-of-the-mill fraternal orders. Both Journey and RUSH were indoctrinated into the Balloonmenaughty in the early seventies when it was clear to the powers that be that both bands were gonna be around for a while.

 

As the truth has it, on January 1st 1983, Jonathan Cain and Steve Perry had just met up with Neal Schon who had recently returned from a research mission to the late '80s. "John, Steve! You gotta come with me!"

 

The guys—who had been trying to come up with a cool video idea for their recently recorded Separate Ways replied, "What? Is it our kids? Are they in trouble in the future?"

 

"It's much worse than that! It's RUSH. They made a video which is so embarrassing that it makes rock videos look transcendent by comparison!"

 

"Why do you care about RUSH?" replied Steve Perry, "Didn't their guitar player rip you off?"

 

"Well, Sort of. Actually, if the bass player hadn't played those two notes, it never would've happened. But as it turns out, it was more of an homage, really. Anyway, I went further into the future and read on the Internet that I was kind of embarrassing myself by bitching about it still, decades later. Or maybe I was just being passive-aggressive, or maybe I was just joking around, I dunno; only a select number of forum nerds knows the details..."

 

Just then Jonathan Cain interrupted, "What's the Internet?" affecting his trademark eyebrow furrow. "Never mind that!" replied Neal. "We gotta get going!!"

 

So the band packed up and went back to the future to see if they could prevent RUSH from shooting the Time Stand Still video, but Neal accidentally set the destination in the Delorean to arrive at the video premier at Mercury Records. Of course, they recognized the video for the disaster it was straight away, but since they had used up the plutonium-advance they had received from Columbia, they only had enough to get back to 1983 and see if they could come up with a solution to help keep Ged, Alex, and Neil from career long humiliation.

 

Ultimately, Neal deserves credit for the solution to the dilemma: "Let's make a video so bad, that it'd be like dying for all music video's sins."

 

Because there are strict limitations on how the Balloonmenaughty are allowed to use their powers for each other, they had to make a video that would synchro-mystically resonate with the Canadian trio's tragic turn featured in their promo. Plus there are all sorts of magical numerological references between the two.

 

But visually, if you overlay both videos you'll see that Aimee Mann and the model from the Journey narrative's movements correspond, respectively, to each other's anima and animus.

 

If you doubt the veracity of this tale, consider the following: the Separate Ways single was released on January 5th, 1983. Add those numbers: 1 + 9 + 8 + 3 + 5(th) + 01 (Jan) = 27. That's a magikal enough number as it is, but add 2 and 7 and you get 9. Divide that by 3 and you get... that's right, you guessed it: the number of members in RUSH! Isn't that ssGeddy, kiddies?

 

On a related note: the amount of time I spent on this comment is my way of dying for all other nerd's who feel guilty for spending way to much time on the Internet. Go and sin no more.

 

Time Stand Still indeed. Somebody should do a literal music vid of that.

http://youtu.be/nZrjg48jHLw

[GeddysMullet]

This thread is too friggin' long! My god. I was gonna multiquote my faves and riff on everybody but this is ridiculous... anyway here goes:::

 

Alex is a genius. That word gets thrown around a lot, but here it applies. There is a reason a lot of Rush fans and guitar players think that he is underrated: he is in a band with two guys that have the "greatest" rep because of their creative, but mostly technical proficiency. But if—and I only say "if"... IF there is only one musical genius in Rush, it is Alex Lifeson.

 

I say this by way of introll to the greater point, which is that he is well aware of his co-opting of bits & bobs and incorporating them into his oevre. The fact is, the very nature of composition, classical, jazz, pop, and otherwise has a rich tradition of phrasal reference. It's what artists do. And if they are aware of it, it is to their credit.

 

To wit: Alex' intro to In the Mood is an uncanny rework of the intro to the piece of the same name made most famous by Benny Goodman and his Orchestra. But that song had already been arranged by Joe Garland and Andy Razaf, which itself was based on a pre-existing melody. The main theme, featuring repeated arpeggios rhythmically displaced, previously appeared under the title of Tar Paper Stomp credited to trumpeter and bandleader Wingy Manone. Horace Henderson used the same tune in Hot and Anxious, recorded by his brother's band, The Fletcher Henderson Orchestra in 1931.

 

And if the climax to his solo on The Camera Eye isn't an intentional nod to the same by Mark Knopfler in Sultans of Swing, I'll smoke a pound of smudgy finger-grease on the number buttons of an old-timey jukebox.

 

Now, the La Villa Strangiato thing... Rush clearly nicked Raymond Scott's Powerhouse for that, but I'm guessing here that Al and Ged were sitting around getting high and watching Bugs Bunny cartoons and not knowing better, decided to use that phrase. ;) Anyway, that was all settled amicably... Rush realized their mistake and it was all taken care of.

 

I don't know the story here. I never thought of it as a mistake. What, did they have to pay the Scott Estate or something?

 

You gotta BS degree right? That's awesome bro. Artistic Sequestration. Good band name.

 

Cease and desist!! My band name is Autistic Equestrian and I'll sue (cuz I just know that all my fans would confuse Artistic Sequestration's albums for mine).

 

On the other side i heard about eight years ago now, a later day King Crimson album from a friend of mine at work who is a Crimson fanatic a guitar riff that sounded identical to i believe it was to Freeze from Vapor Trails. Played it to my buddy and he had to admit 'holy shit it is!'.. Couldn't tell ya the King Crimson song or album but i'm pretty sure it came out shortly after Rush Vapor Trails..

 

It could only be from The Power to Believe, then. Though, to be honest, I think it is more likely Robert Fripp's copping the same style of riff as old as Larks' Tongues in Aspic II, which would pre-date any RUSH recordings. In other words: guitarists/musicians rip themselves off repeatedly. Moreoever, the riffs in question are "Prog" DNA, which are in turn part and parcel of 20th century symphony orchestra bombast.

 

Clearly Journey got in their delorean and plagiarized xanadu.

 

Okay, that's the money ^quote ^right ^there. And this is where I go off the vapor rails . . .

 

You may not know how close to the truth you are. As many of you know, all famous people are members of a secret organization within another secret organization within two more of run-of-the-mill fraternal orders. Both Journey and RUSH were indoctrinated into the Balloonmenaughty in the early seventies when it was clear to the powers that be that both bands were gonna be around for a while.

 

As the truth has it, on January 1st 1983, Jonathan Cain and Steve Perry had just met up with Neal Schon who had recently returned from a research mission to the late '80s. "John, Steve! You gotta come with me!"

 

The guys—who had been trying to come up with a cool video idea for their recently recorded Separate Ways replied, "What? Is it our kids? Are they in trouble in the future?"

 

"It's much worse than that! It's RUSH. They made a video which is so embarrassing that it makes rock videos look transcendent by comparison!"

 

"Why do you care about RUSH?" replied Steve Perry, "Didn't their guitar player rip you off?"

 

"Well, Sort of. Actually, if the bass player hadn't played those two notes, it never would've happened. But as it turns out, it was more of an homage, really. Anyway, I went further into the future and read on the Internet that I was kind of embarrassing myself by bitching about it still, decades later. Or maybe I was just being passive-aggressive, or maybe I was just joking around, I dunno; only a select number of forum nerds knows the details..."

 

Just then Jonathan Cain interrupted, "What's the Internet?" affecting his trademark eyebrow furrow. "Never mind that!" replied Neal. "We gotta get going!!"

 

So the band packed up and went back to the future to see if they could prevent RUSH from shooting the Time Stand Still video, but Neal accidentally set the destination in the Delorean to arrive at the video premier at Mercury Records. Of course, they recognized the video for the disaster it was straight away, but since they had used up the plutonium-advance they had received from Columbia, they only had enough to get back to 1983 and see if they could come up with a solution to help keep Ged, Alex, and Neil from career long humiliation.

 

Ultimately, Neal deserves credit for the solution to the dilemma: "Let's make a video so bad, that it'd be like dying for all music video's sins."

 

Because there are strict limitations on how the Balloonmenaughty are allowed to use their powers for each other, they had to make a video that would synchro-mystically resonate with the Canadian trio's tragic turn featured in their promo. Plus there are all sorts of magical numerological references between the two.

 

But visually, if you overlay both videos you'll see that Aimee Mann and the model from the Journey narrative's movements correspond, respectively, to each other's anima and animus.

 

If you doubt the veracity of this tale, consider the following: the Separate Ways single was released on January 5th, 1983. Add those numbers: 1 + 9 + 8 + 3 + 5(th) + 01 (Jan) = 27. That's a magikal enough number as it is, but add 2 and 7 and you get 9. Divide that by 3 and you get... that's right, you guessed it: the number of members in RUSH! Isn't that ssGeddy, kiddies?

 

On a related note: the amount of time I spent on this comment is my way of dying for all other nerd's who feel guilty for spending way to much time on the Internet. Go and sin no more.

 

Time Stand Still indeed. Somebody should do a literal music vid of that.

http://youtu.be/nZrjg48jHLw

 

Post of the decade!

 

I did hit the "like" button, but "like" just didn't seem to cover it. I LOVE this post! ;) :clap:

[Lerxster]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

Re, 79 is hurting and will be for a considerable time. This wound is fresh. He has no perspective, yet. He's still hurting. Just let him be. He's got a lot to work out.

[Tombstone Mountain]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

Re, 79 is hurting and will be for a considerable time. This wound is fresh. He has no perspective, yet. He's still hurting. Just let him be. He's got a lot to work out.

Just enjoy this Schon influenced period.

[GeminiRising79]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

Re, 79 is hurting and will be for a considerable time. This wound is fresh. He has no perspective, yet. He's still hurting. Just let him be. He's got a lot to work out.

Just enjoy this Schon influenced period.

 

I can't help but laugh, but true. Subconciously, I have already tagged these years to be be known as the "Schon period".

 

Btw, why was Alex digging around in trashcans for material in the first place?

Edited November 4, 2013 by GeminiRising79

[ReRushed]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

Re, 79 is hurting and will be for a considerable time. This wound is fresh. He has no perspective, yet. He's still hurting. Just let him be. He's got a lot to work out.

Just enjoy this Schon influenced period.

 

I can't help but laugh, but true. Subconciously, I have already tagged these years to be be known as the "Schon period".

 

Still didn't answer the question how Alex Lifeson was doing the same thing before the "Schon period"!

[KennyLee]

Good grief.

[GeminiRising79]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

Re, 79 is hurting and will be for a considerable time. This wound is fresh. He has no perspective, yet. He's still hurting. Just let him be. He's got a lot to work out.

Just enjoy this Schon influenced period.

 

I can't help but laugh, but true. Subconciously, I have already tagged these years to be be known as the "Schon period".

 

Still didn't answer the question how Alex Lifeson was doing the same thing before the "Schon period"!

 

Sorry, Re, but u are being obtuse here. It is the powerchord and arpeggiation through the Chorus effect.

[ReRushed]

I think this controversy should be addressed by Alex. If he prefers to avoid discussing, there's your answer. Without a doubt I believe he pirated Neal's work.

 

You're avoiding my question - how to you explain Alex's style prior to "Nickel and Dime"? Heck, to my ears it sounds like Alex is doing the same thing on "In the End" as he's doing on "Xanadu".

Re, 79 is hurting and will be for a considerable time. This wound is fresh. He has no perspective, yet. He's still hurting. Just let him be. He's got a lot to work out.

Just enjoy this Schon influenced period.

 

I can't help but laugh, but true. Subconciously, I have already tagged these years to be be known as the "Schon period".

 

Still didn't answer the question how Alex Lifeson was doing the same thing before the "Schon period"!

 

Sorry, Re, but u are being obtuse here. It is the powerchord and arpeggiation through the Chorus effect.

 

I'm being obtuse? How ironic! LOL!

 

So he plays powerchords and arpeggios on every album up to and including A Farewell to Kings and you nitpick about a chorus effect? I apparently don't have access to the details that you do, but it SOUNDS like he was using the same techniques on all the Rush albums up to and including A Farewell to Kings. The situation that "depresses" you so much is that the same chords and technique were used by two different guitarists on two different songs.

 

Moving on...

[GeminiRising79]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

[ReRushed]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

[GeddysMullet]

ReRushed, I just wanted to commend you on the tremendous therapeutic service I believe you're doing Gemini by continuing this discussion. He's clearly got some huge issues in his life, and I'll bet that the joy you've brought him these last few days in this thread has really brightened up his life.

 

Unfortunately, it probably won't be enough to get him to understand that he really doesn't HAVE to waste his life being a miserable sod whose only pleasure is antagonising people and that there could be a better way for him than getting his jollies by riling up strangers on the Internet, but hey, I'm sure that every little bit helps!

[ReRushed]

ReRushed, I just wanted to commend you on the tremendous therapeutic service I believe you're doing Gemini by continuing this discussion. He's clearly got some huge issues in his life, and I'll bet that the joy you've brought him these last few days in this thread has really brightened up his life.

 

Unfortunately, it probably won't be enough to get him to understand that he really doesn't HAVE to waste his life being a miserable sod whose only pleasure is antagonising people and that there could be a better way for him than getting his jollies by riling up strangers on the Internet, but hey, I'm sure that every little bit helps!

 

 

I really need to move on!

[GeminiRising79]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

[ReRushed]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Yeah, because all those Rush albums sound like Journey albums. :eyeroll: Evolve, indeed.

[GeminiRising79]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Yeah, because all those Rush albums sound like Journey albums. :eyeroll:

 

You are taking things out of context again, as usual.

[Lerxster]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

[GeminiRising79]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

 

I was always hopeful they would turn it around eventually, but they've essentially been in the same vein, musically, for a whole decade, imo.

[Lerxster]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

 

I was always hopeful they would turn it around eventually, but they've essentially been in the same vein, musically, for a whole decade, imo.

Rush is lackluster, cashgrabbing and unturnaroundable. f**k hope and end it! Resign from TRF. That's your first step to your own personal salvation! Do it!!

[GeminiRising79]

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

Again, I love Rush, but this Schon thing may be the final blow for me :( Many of you will rejoice in this, I know.

 

The "Schon thing" sounds like an excuse. Break away...

 

Not an excuse, but nearly the final straw. The last 12 years of lackluster material, poor directional decisions (w/over-reliance on 3rd parties) and endless DVDs/cashgrabs. Then the shock of realizing Alex' trademark sound is anothers'. Maybe its time for me to evolve and retire from following the band.

 

Nearly the final straw? Just let it end. Does it take you 12 years to break up with a woman? 12 years to decide you hate asparagus? Good god, be a man and just end it already!

 

I was always hopeful they would turn it around eventually, but they've essentially been in the same vein, musically, for a whole decade, imo.

Rush is lackluster, cashgrabbing and unturnaroundable. f**k hope and end it! Resign from TRF. That's your first step to your own personal salvation! Do it!!

 

Done