Rick N. Backer Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009113000/2009/REG12/patriots@saints#menu=highlights&tab=recap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/g...ights&tab=recap We'll see Duck. Who are the Saints playing this week? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/g...ights&tab=recap We'll see Duck. Who are the Saints playing this week? Your mother!! We might just win even with our defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/g...ights&tab=recap We'll see Duck. Who are the Saints playing this week? Your mother!! We might just win even with our defense! I don't know Duck. She's pretty tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/g...ights&tab=recap We'll see Duck. Who are the Saints playing this week? Your mother!! We might just win even with our defense! I don't know Duck. She's pretty tough.Aye but does she think she's too tough like RG3?? :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/g...ights&tab=recap We'll see Duck. Who are the Saints playing this week? Your mother!! We might just win even with our defense! I don't know Duck. She's pretty tough.Aye but does she think she's too tough like RG3?? :o She makes Griffin look like a "Nancy Boy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack. Then he'll have about a 4 year career. You can't have your QB taking hits like a RB.Maybe he's gonna get tougher? Or killed. The body type needed to be a good QB is different from the type of body a RB needs to have.Which is your team then? "Location:New England"Alright then we're coming to get you next year! :madra: "Prediction? Pain." http://raylyonsden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Clubber-lang.jpg Yeah for the Pats just like last time... :madra: http://www.nfl.com/g...ights&tab=recap We'll see Duck. Who are the Saints playing this week? Your mother!! We might just win even with our defense! I don't know Duck. She's pretty tough.Aye but does she think she's too tough like RG3?? :o She makes Griffin look like a "Nancy Boy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILSnwdog Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm.Steve Young was a Vick type runner, though he kept it more under wraps than Vick and could be effective from the pocket. But he was an outstanding runner even in his Super Bowl years and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm.Steve Young was a Vick type runner, though he kept it more under wraps than Vick and could be effective from the pocket. But he was an outstanding runner even in his Super Bowl years and beyond.An he never really got banged up too much either. Edit: Well strike that he did have a few concussions thinking back on it, it didn't affect the trajectory of his career overall though until near the end. Edited January 11, 2013 by treeduck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm.Steve Young was a Vick type runner, though he kept it more under wraps than Vick and could be effective from the pocket. But he was an outstanding runner even in his Super Bowl years and beyond.An he never really got banged up too much either. Edit: Well strike that he did have a few concussions thinking back on it, it didn't affect the trajectory of his career overall though until near the end.He never missed a game due to injury before 1995 (played in all 16 before that when he was a starter. Missed time following that year, but by then he was 34. After that it was hit and miss, but his career arc wasn't that different than most, out of the game (due to repeated concussions) at age 38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm.Steve Young was a Vick type runner, though he kept it more under wraps than Vick and could be effective from the pocket. But he was an outstanding runner even in his Super Bowl years and beyond.An he never really got banged up too much either. Edit: Well strike that he did have a few concussions thinking back on it, it didn't affect the trajectory of his career overall though until near the end.He never missed a game due to injury before 1995 (played in all 16 before that when he was a starter. Missed time following that year, but by then he was 34. After that it was hit and miss, but his career arc wasn't that different than most, out of the game (due to repeated concussions) at age 38.Yeah he certainly had no knee injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick N. Backer Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm.Steve Young was a Vick type runner, though he kept it more under wraps than Vick and could be effective from the pocket. But he was an outstanding runner even in his Super Bowl years and beyond. I disagree. He was a scrambler, and a good one at that. I think Vick looks to run too soon, before the defense is spread all over the field in coverage. More like a RB in what he's doing, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 On the plus side, maybe now he'll have to stay in the pocket more. Tom Brady's been the QB of the Patriots since the 2001 season. Griffin doesn't make it 12 seasons running around like was doing.If he stays in the pocket he won't be as effective, because the running threat is no longer there and he has to throw more, therefore more mistakes and a more predictable attack.McNabb was a more effective QB after he learned how to use the pocket. It's not just rolling out of the pocket that's the problem for RGIII. He has to stop trying to be a running back. There is a reason that RBs only average 6 years in the league. The key is to roll out of the pocket and still look for receivers. When a QB leaves the pocket, defenders will give up on the receiver to get the QB. When a QB can do that, he becomes truly dangerous.Do you think he can be as an effective pocket passer as Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees? And if he can do what they do why does he bother trying to be a running back?I don't know why? What I do know is that I don't think a team has ever won a superbowl with a Vick type QB. Cunningham never won a superbowl. McNabb and McNair never went to a superbowl until they learned to pass first. The best "mobile" QBs use their mobility to keep a play alive and only run when they can not pass. And it's the pocket passers who play in the NFL for decades. Brady and Manning are still playing some of their best football, and they are both closer to 40 than 30. QBs just don't hold up when they try moving the ball with their feet instead of their arm.Steve Young was a Vick type runner, though he kept it more under wraps than Vick and could be effective from the pocket. But he was an outstanding runner even in his Super Bowl years and beyond. I disagree. He was a scrambler, and a good one at that. I think Vick looks to run too soon, before the defense is spread all over the field in coverage. More like a RB in what he's doing, IMO.Sure it's a matter of degree, but Vick would be by himself or with very few peers if you set the bar for similarity too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default236 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Man, RGIII was a beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Man, RGIII was a beast!That's everyone in Washington's biggest fear...the word "was" in that sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default236 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Man, RGIII was a beast!That's everyone in Washington's biggest fear...the word "was" in that sentence.Yes, special emphasis on the "WAS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnzBbp3rsJA He says he'll be ready by Week 1. Edited April 30, 2013 by Lost In Xanadu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrinx Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Good for him. A great player on a hated team. Go Cowboys! :D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost In Xanadu Posted April 30, 2013 Author Share Posted April 30, 2013 Good for him. A great player on a hated team. Go Cowboys! :D I can root for him, but I cannot root for the Skins. Medicine is amazing... look at Adrian Peterson. I think RGIII will be back, and as good as ever. Hopefully they will stop putting him in such dangerous situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Didn't the Cowboys pick a bum of a center for their first round pick? We have UDFA players rated higher than Frederick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat 3 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 RG3 just announced that he'll no longer play through injury, That means this kid in his 20s cares more about his future well being than the owner and head coach of the Redskins does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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