KISS - Destroyer (Resurrected)

[The Cat 3]

I posted this in the "Albums you've listened to today" thread, but felt it deserves a thread of it's own...

 

KISS - Destroyer (Resurrected)

 

This is the remixed version of the 1976 classic, "Destroyer" which was released this week.

 

..."Destroyer" has long been one of my most favourite records, been in my top ten ever since I first purchased it wa-a-a-a-a-a-y back in 1976 when I was 13 years old.

 

"Destroyer" is, in my opinion, KISS' best album start to finish...there is not a dud or filler on it.

 

I was a bit skeptical about this remix, but rather curious knowing that Bob Ezrin was behind this project.

 

That being said, the remix is #@!%$* amazing!!!!

 

The sound is so good, the guitars are front and center and there are so many subtle and not so subtle nuances to it.

 

Peter Criss' drumming on this album is unbelievable.

 

He takes alot of heat, but his talent cannot be denied on this album and this remix proves it.

 

The spirit of the original release remains intact, but it is a fresher sounding, guitar-driven record now.

 

They have released it with the original cover, which was banned because it was thought to be too violent at the time.

 

I highly recommend this one to any die hard KISS fan or to anyone who just wants to hear a fantastic rock and roll record.

 

~Cheers, RGLT

 

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2012/01/Destroyer.jpg

 

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[nappy2112]

Best Buy didn't have it ...where did you get your copy ?

[The Cat 3]

I checked my local Best Buy and they didn't have it. I purchased it today in Livingston, NJ at an independent record store called, "The CD Store". Felt good to support the little guy.

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 02:24 PM)

"Destroyer" is, in my opinion, KISS' best album start to finish...there is not a dud or filler on it.

Wow, so are you saying the new version eliminates Flaming Youth, Sweet Pain, and especially the horrendously embarrassing piece of garbage that is Great Expectations?

[Presto-digitation]

Wal-Mart is selling it for $9.

 

And agreed, WELL worth it...!!!

 

The CD is made to look like an old vinyl, with the groove marks and the old blue Casablanca label too:

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Cm2VkgqN28w/UDFkB81rpgI/AAAAAAAAJCQ/xE0jb5jK_IM/s1600/KISS+-+DESTROYER+RESURRECTED.jpg

[The Cat 3]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 04:52 PM)

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 02:24 PM)"Destroyer" is, in my opinion, KISS' best album start to finish...there is not a dud or filler on it.

Wow, so are you saying the new version eliminates Flaming Youth, Sweet Pain, and especially the horrendously embarrassing piece of garbage that is Great Expectations?

Absolutely,

 

"Flaming Youth" and "Sweet Pain" have benefited the most from the remixing of the guitars sound being brought forward.

 

Again, the drumming is amazing.

 

As for, "Great Expectations", the beginning piano part is more pronounced and it isn't "hidden" at all.

 

Also, the choir section is much more intense.

 

Listening to it today (for the 3rd time), it is almost as if the piano/choir section was intentionally toned down on the original release.

 

Here, with them much more prominent, it really makes the song.

 

Not a lot you can do with it lyrically, but hey, that's KISS for you...an ode to their female fans back in the day.

 

You should give it a listen...after all, I was right about CA, right?

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 03:01 PM)
QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 04:52 PM)	QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 02:24 PM)

"Destroyer" is, in my opinion, KISS' best album start to finish...there is not a dud or filler on it.

Wow, so are you saying the new version eliminates Flaming Youth, Sweet Pain, and especially the horrendously embarrassing piece of garbage that is Great Expectations?

Absolutely,

 

"Flaming Youth" and "Sweet Pain" have benefited the most from the remixing of the guitars sound being brought forward.

 

Again, the drumming is amazing.

 

As for, "Great Expectations", the beginning piano part is more pronounced and it isn't "hidden" at all.

 

Also, the choir section is much more intense.

 

Listening to it today (for the 3rd time), it is almost as if the piano/choir section was intentionally toned down on the original release.

 

Here, with them much more prominent, it really makes the song.

 

Not a lot you can do with it lyrically, but hey, that's KISS for you...an ode to their female fans back in the day.

 

You should give it a listen...after all, I was right about CA, right?

Destroyer has some great songs on it, but those songs can't be saved, especially Great Expectations.

 

I understand that even in their best moments, Kiss were hardly lyrical geniuses, but some of the lyrics can get pretty bad.

 

Anyway, I'm still a fan - they made a lot of kick-ass songs back in the day.

[MCM]

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 04:24 PM)

..."Destroyer" has long been one of my most favourite records, been in my top ten ever since I first purchased it wa-a-a-a-a-a-y back in 1976 when I was 13 years old. "Destroyer" is, in my opinion, KISS' best album start to finish...there is not a dud or filler on it.

I was about 9 when this album came out. I first listened to it on 8-Track. It's my favorite KISS album, and I agree that it's one of their best. I love every bit of it and this one sounds excellent. The same songs, the same music, just fresher or clearer, a bit more defined and sparkly sounding.

 

I've now owned this album in five different formats. 8-Track; record, cassette, two different cd's and now digital. I will get the hard copy of this one as soon as I can get out and find it. Glad to be able to pad Gene and Paul's pockets yet again.

 

 

[daveyt]

i have always enjoyed the drumming on this album and have ignored the critics...even confused by them...btw great expectations is a great song...very entertaining lyrics and reaches deep into the audience in a way neil would never do! haha i love it

[GeddyLeeRoth]

I love vintage KISS, but they can't have any more of my money.

[rushgoober]

people REALLY like great expectations?

 

QUOTE

You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations

all that with a choir

 

so people still like this song? is that your final answer?

[The Cat 3]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 10:36 PM)

people REALLY like great expectations? QUOTE You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations all that with a choir   so people still like this song? is that your final answer? I'd have to answer "yes" as my final answer.   Hey, people are different with different like and dislikes.   There are people here who really think that "Dog Years" is a great song.   In a dog's life A year is really more like seven And all too soon a canine Will be chasing cars in doggie heaven

[Tick]

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 05:44 PM)

I checked my local Best Buy and they didn't have it. I purchased it today in Livingston, NJ at an independent record store called, "The CD Store". Felt good to support the little guy as a last resort.

 

[Presto-digitation]

QUOTE (Tick @ Aug 24 2012, 07:45 AM)

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 23 2012, 05:44 PM) I checked my local Best Buy and they didn't have it. I purchased it today in Livingston, NJ at an independent record store called, "The CD Store". Felt good to support the little guy as a last resort.   I'd do this more often if the difference wasn't spending $9 or $18. That's a hard pill to swallow with local mom and pop joints, especially if you still buy a lot of CDs. Sometimes the pocketbook wins the battle, unfortunately. If money meant nothing to me, I'd frequent them exclusively.

[Presto-digitation]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 10:36 PM)

people REALLY like great expectations? QUOTE You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations all that with a choir   so people still like this song? is that your final answer? Yeah, some people like it. What a bizarre revelation. Reminds me of a Stones song. Not one in particular, but a Stones approach. I think the choir actually makes the song. It's better for it than I think it would be without it.   Love Destroyer. Top 3 Kiss studio album to me.

[treeduck]

Is it more or less heavy metal than the original version?

 

[nappy2112]

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 11:36 PM)

people REALLY like great expectations? QUOTE You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations all that with a choir   so people still like this song? is that your final answer? Yeah it's no ... now I lay me down in dreamland.   Of course our Wal-Mart didn't have it either, so I had to pay $12 at Hastings.

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 24 2012, 05:18 AM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 10:36 PM) people REALLY like great expectations? QUOTE You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations all that with a choir   so people still like this song? is that your final answer? I'd have to answer "yes" as my final answer.   Hey, people are different with different like and dislikes.   There are people here who really think that "Dog Years" is a great song.   In a dog's life A year is really more like seven And all too soon a canine Will be chasing cars in doggie heaven Even Dog Years has better lyrics, and those ones are terrible!

[The Cat 3]

QUOTE (treeduck @ Aug 24 2012, 01:19 PM)

Is it more or less heavy metal than the original version?

Much more metal ... even The Duck would like it!

[softfilter]

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 24 2012, 07:18 AM)

QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 10:36 PM) people REALLY like great expectations? QUOTE You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations all that with a choir   so people still like this song? is that your final answer? I'd have to answer "yes" as my final answer.   Hey, people are different with different like and dislikes.   There are people here who really think that "Dog Years" is a great song.   In a dog's life A year is really more like seven And all too soon a canine Will be chasing cars in doggie heaven Yep, I like it also, it's KISS how "great" do you expect the lyrics to be? Sure I like Dog Years too, Neil's courageous effort to write a song under the effects of a bad hangover really shine through ... under those conditions.

Edited August 26, 2012 by softfilter

[rushgoober]

QUOTE (softfilter @ Aug 26 2012, 02:35 PM)

QUOTE (ReGorLaTroy @ Aug 24 2012, 07:18 AM) QUOTE (rushgoober @ Aug 23 2012, 10:36 PM) people REALLY like great expectations? QUOTE You're sittin' in your seat And then you stand and clutch your breast Our music drives you wild along with the rest You watch me singing this song You see what my mouth can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to And you watch me playin' guitar And you feel what my fingers can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You're dying to be seen And you wave and call my name But in the day it seems that I'm a million miles away You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations Then you feels these eyes from the stage And you see me staring at you And you hear between the lines, my voice is calling to you Well, listen You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations You've got great expectations You've got great expectations, do you want to play the role You've got great expectations, you'd even sell me your soul You've got great expectations, as long as you can play the role You've got great expectations all that with a choir   so people still like this song? is that your final answer? I'd have to answer "yes" as my final answer.   Hey, people are different with different like and dislikes.   There are people here who really think that "Dog Years" is a great song.   In a dog's life A year is really more like seven And all too soon a canine Will be chasing cars in doggie heaven Yep, I like it also, it's KISS how "great" do you expect the lyrics to be? I don't expect them to be great, but I don't expect them to make me throw up in my mouth a little (or a lot) either. I mean seriously, those lyrics make Do You Love Me's lyrics look like a poetic masterpiece by comparison. At least Do You Love Me is fun and campy.   I mean seriously:   QUOTE You watch me beatin' my drum And you know what my hands can do And you wish you were the one I was doing it to   First of all, it reads as if someone wishes they were getting beaten, but even if you don't take it in the clumsy literal way it's obviously not intended, it's still 25 shades of awful.   These lyrics are arguably worse than My Humps by the Black Eyed Peas. We're talking legendary badness here. And then it's sung with a choir like these vomitous lyrics are supposed to be deep and significant and needed the extra drama and production. I'm embarrassed for Kiss when I listen to the song. Hell, I'm embarrassed for myself even.   Don't get me wrong, Destroyer has got some great songs on it, but Great Expectations would have to come up a level or two even to scrape the bottom of the barrel. They're on the ground underneath the barrel.

Edited August 26, 2012 by rushgoober

[softfilter]

90% of Kiss songs are campy & silly and when they attempted to show they had depth it made matters worse one of many examples: "I think I'm going blind" - I'm 93 you're sixteen.. talk about wanting to So besides the few curve balls or odd attempts to branch out, Party anthem rock is there specialty, ya know sex, drugs, rock and roll Spinal Tap forte. This is there genre music to pump fist and have fun with Never expect Kiss to put out thought provoking meaningful tunes ( Music from the Elder to late in the attempt for them to make a concept piece.) Same can be said for AC/DC lyrics "Let me cut your cake with my knife" yikes that's terrible.... I like Great Expectations with the choir and strings they were experimenting and yeah the lyrics can make you cringe, still I really enjoy the music aspect of that song. Edited August 27, 2012 by softfilter

[Rick N. Backer]

QUOTE (softfilter @ Aug 27 2012, 12:08 PM)

90% of Kiss songs are campy & silly and when they attempted to show they had depth it made matters worse one of many examples: "I think I'm going blind" - I'm 93 you're sixteen..   talk about wanting to     So besides the few curve balls or odd attempts to branch out, Party anthem rock is there specialty, ya know  sex, drugs, rock and roll Spinal Tap forte. This is there genre  music to pump fist and have fun with   Never expect Kiss to put out thought provoking meaningful tunes ( Music from the Elder to late in the attempt for them to make a concept piece.) Same can be said for AC/DC lyrics "Let me cut your cake with my knife" yikes that's terrible.... I like Great Expectations with the choir and strings they were experimenting and yeah the lyrics can make you cringe, still I really enjoy the music aspect  of that song.

True story. This weekend I was cutting my lawn and listening to my iPod on shuffle. Let Me Put My Love Into You came on. The line you quoted made me say to myself, If I were a girl, how would I feel about this song?

[Presto-digitation]

[Rick N. Backer]