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This is the most ridiculous argument ever. It's freaking 21:12, not 9:11. And Rush are Canadian, not that they didn't care that it happened, but they aren't even American. Sorry for your loss man, but seriously STOP trying to force this issue. It's getting a little childish.
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QUOTE (GangsterOnBoats @ May 11 2012, 11:39 AM)
Here's a question though, why did they not make it 9:12 on the Caravan single? confused13.gif confused13.gif

The time on the Caravan cover is 3:00.

 

I think they simply went with yet another typical "3" reference, which has become very common in Rush releases over the years.

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QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ May 11 2012, 10:44 AM)
QUOTE (GangsterOnBoats @ May 11 2012, 11:39 AM)
Here's a question though, why did they not make it 9:12 on the Caravan single?  confused13.gif  confused13.gif

The time on the Caravan cover is 3:00.

 

I think they simply went with yet another typical "3" reference, which has become very common in Rush releases over the years.

Oh really? I was unaware, what else is the 3 referenced on?

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QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 11:37 AM)
QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ May 11 2012, 11:32 AM)
you are over-reaching to suggest the clock represents not only the time 9:11, but that Rush intentionally chose that time for some connection to the date.

I NEVER said that RUSH intended on referencing 911. Dude... wacko.gif

No, but you are digging at something that isn't there.

 

It being a RUSH album and 2112 being one of their biggest albums ever one would think that as a big RUSH fan (which we assume you are as you are posting on a fan board) you would see the 2112 connection before a 9-11 connection.

 

I get it, you lost someone close to you in a horrible tragedy. It hits close to home with you and obviously you feel the loss deeply.

 

I lost my brother to suicide in 2003. I can't listen to The Pass without thinking of him. I don't really like the song as it paints the person who commits suicide as weak and they aren't worth remembering as a good person. That is not true of my brother.

 

I didn't like when RUSH played it live, but I didn't get upset and think they were being disrespectful. It's my personal tragedy and RUSH has no idea about me. They played a song a lot of fans like.

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QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 10:34 AM)
QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ May 11 2012, 11:32 AM)
you don't get to claim that it only happened to you or others with personal connections.

There is a difference in that I DID have someone die on that day that I know, I don't think u did.

 

No, I did not. And, as I wrote several times, you will notably have a different connection, and therefore a different emotional reaction.

 

But, dmc suggested you're making a connection that is not there and you wrote:

QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:41 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:36 AM)
You're making connections that don't need to be made.

Respectfully, it is easy for you to say this. It didn't happen to you.

 

So, I was implying that 9-11 didn't happen just to you. The members of Rush certainly have no idea that you have a personal loss associated with 9-11.

 

QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 10:37 AM)
QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ May 11 2012, 11:32 AM)
you are over-reaching to suggest the clock represents not only the time 9:11, but that Rush intentionally chose that time for some connection to the date.

I NEVER said that RUSH intended on referencing 911. Dude... wacko.gif

 

You didn't - but then, why would it be a problem for you that it's close to that date? Are all times and dates off limits from art?

 

You wrote:

QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 08:18 AM)

I never said that I am 100% positive that it is referring to 911. It is just that it is extremely close to that date / time. A little in bad taste IMHO. That's all.

 

If you weren't implying that it was in bad taste because Rush intending on referencing 9-11, then why would it be in bad taste? Because it's a lousy cover? Agreed, and there's another thread for that.

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QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:34 AM)
QUOTE (Rush-O-Matic @ May 11 2012, 11:32 AM)
you don't get to claim that it only happened to you or others with personal connections.

There is a difference in that I DID have someone die on that day that I know, I don't think u did.

And that's why you can't see this clearly. You're blinded by your personal experience and you have completely lost all your objectivity. The more you try to force this issue, the deeper the hole you are digging.

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QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 08:41 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:36 AM)
You're making connections that don't need to be made.

Respectfully, it is easy for you to say this. It didn't happen to you.

You sure about that? Why? Because I'm not reacting to the album cover the same way you are? You're assuming an awful lot throughout this entire thread. Just because I can look at an album cover without making wild connections about times and dates doesn't mean I didn't lose anyone on 9/11.

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QUOTE (Tigershark2112 @ May 11 2012, 11:03 AM)
Like I said, Rush are CANADIAN.

And as the number 3 references go, how about the Hold Your Fire album cover, just off hand? There's a million more, but that's the most obvious.

there are a bunch

Rock Paper Scissors on Presto

The triangles on Counterparts

the 3 guys climbing the rock structure on T4E, the 3 snowman inside

the 3 fingerprints on the retrospectives

the 3 tinkertoys on Difft Stages

 

 

etc etc

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QUOTE (Tigershark2112 @ May 11 2012, 11:03 AM)
Like I said, Rush are CANADIAN.

And as the number 3 references go, how about the Hold Your Fire album cover, just off hand? There's a million more, but that's the most obvious.

- 3 little connecting toy thingamabobs on the Different Stages cover

- Hold Your Fire cover (as stated) & the juggler juggling 3 balls of fire on the inside (back??)

- 3 rabbits at the top of the hill on the Presto cover

- 3 arches and 3 pictures being moved on the Moving Picutres cover

- 3 TV sets on the Power Windows cover

- The overwhelming number of dice showing 3 on the RTB cover (not to mention the 3 flying wish bones)

- Vapor Trails "brought to you by the letter 3" [yes, letter]

 

etc.

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QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

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QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

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QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:36 AM)
You're making connections that don't need to be made.

Respectfully, it is easy for you to say this. It didn't happen to you.

I, like you, know of someone(in my case friends and two family members) who lost their life that day. However, having that connection does not give me the right to make inferences that are not clearly there. Right from the initial moment the artwork was released, people noted the time 0f 9:12. I left it at that.

 

Quick to judge indeed...

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QUOTE (The Mighty Dudad @ May 11 2012, 11:16 AM)
(not to mention the 3 flying wish bones)

not to be picky, but there are 5 wishbones floating in the image I think you are referencing

 

(it's big, don't wanna link it directly)

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/downloads...TBwishbones.gif

 

 

ETA: There are 3 femur bones in this image:

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/downloads...er/RTBbones.jpg

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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

I guess you do, when you don;t do F all, rofl3.gif

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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

I guess you do, when you don;t do F all, rofl3.gif

http://www.chucklecloud.com/content/cache/e8ed6dbe-0b5d-4d65-bf4a-8a06cace2594.jpeg

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QUOTE (D3strukt @ May 11 2012, 01:06 PM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 11:50 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:46 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

I guess you do, when you don;t do F all, rofl3.gif

http://www.chucklecloud.com/content/cache/e8ed6dbe-0b5d-4d65-bf4a-8a06cace2594.jpeg

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QUOTE (D3strukt @ May 11 2012, 12:06 PM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 11:50 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:46 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

I guess you do, when you don;t do F all, rofl3.gif

http://www.chucklecloud.com/content/cache/e8ed6dbe-0b5d-4d65-bf4a-8a06cace2594.jpeg

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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:50 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:46 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

I guess you do, when you don;t do F all, rofl3.gif

Horrific grammar and punctuation aside, you're suggesting that the reason I have plenty of time to respond to you is because I don't do anything otherwise?

 

I'm a terrific multi-tasker. Checking in here doesn't take more than a few minutes in between rendering videos, uploading to YouTube and preparing for a conference that I'm speaking at next week. Surely you don't think that my day is nothing but staring off into space waiting for the next gem to fall out of your mouth? You probably do think that... which is one more reason you can't be taken seriously.

 

Side note: it takes two to tango. Insulting me by suggesting that I'm wasting time here merely highlights the fact that you're doing the exact same thing. Are you wasting your time? Do you not have anything better to do? Insult me on this and you insult yourself.

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QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 12:50 PM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:46 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:25 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (canadianice @ May 11 2012, 10:18 AM)
QUOTE (friendlyfloridian @ May 11 2012, 09:18 AM)
QUOTE (danielmclark @ May 11 2012, 10:17 AM)
It's not 9:11. It's 9:12, which, on a 24-hour clock, is 21:12. It's an in-joke.

How in the world can u tell the difference?

because he knows EVERYTHING z7shysterical.gif

Man, that hurts. That really hurts. Your opinion means the world to me, and you jump into the thread just to insult me? I'm not going to sleep well tonight, that's for sure.

 

In other words: F you.

Right back at ya, go write a meaningless blog about it moon.gif

Nobody would want to read it if your name was anywhere near it. Much like your posts on this forum.

 

You came into this thread for the sole purpose of taking a cheap (and painfully unclever) shot at me. This little back and forth you started? I can keep this up all day. Feel free to keep it personal, I've got plenty of time.

I guess you do, when you don;t do F all, rofl3.gif

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