Garden Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 This is someone who wanted to look more like Paris Hilton. http://digiboydesigns.com/images/all_main_images/retouch_a15.jpg Look at all the differences done here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garden Dancer Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 And the before and after for a magazine cover. http://www.notesondesign.net/images/faith_sides_lg-(2).jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublereeder Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It's. Just. Gross. All I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockAngel Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 After bein battered and bruised by pregnancy, too many choccie biscuits and life in general, there isnt an air brush big enough to sort my pics out!!! But i dont care cos my body is my life road map...yeah its got lines and creases and a few battered edges but goes to prove that i've lived!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhosyn Helena Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Outrageous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lya2112yyz Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 My sister does modelling and she gets pretty mad about this too, and she called me a couple of weeks ago practically in tears. "Am I not good enough or something? They cover me in fifty kinds of cream and sprays head to toe, plaster me with half a ton of make-up and then make me wear the most ridiculous clothes for shoots or shows and then they still don't like the photos so they have about five so-called specialists come in with computers and start changing me and blending pictures together and in the end it looks NOTHING like me!" Was pretty much what she said. Sigourney also sent me this: http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/3/1/1/f_vastmakeupm_687612b.png Compared to the (perfectly fine looking) girl in my sig, she doesn't even look like the same person! Edit: I'm her sister, I can just about tell it's her. And the stupid thing is they were going to remove her dimple, which is part of her character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnrgal Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 that's really sad, lya. Bad enough women in the US (and elsewhere) who are being targeted with these images are sent all these bad messages about beauty and body image and now the models themselves are feeling insecure and confused because of all this wizardry. If we thought models didn't reflect "real women" before... You and your sisters are lovely, by the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Just use a goddamn computer-generated mannequin and be done with it already. At least then everyone would KNOW that the "perfection" was completely fabricated. No real-life version of flawlessness to starve and half-kill yourself trying to imitate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadu93 Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 God, I get tired of hearing girls at my school complain about being fat, when they already weigh 90 pounds or less (which some girls at school really do weigh). These girls need to realize that they can't be individualistic when trying to throw up just like their favorite star or their friends. Perhaps one day, someone will help them realize that beuaty does not mean weighing 80 pounds just because society (which is not the best thing to listen to) says you should. Case in point: I would prefer someone with the looks of Meg Griffin with a great personality to some girl who's afraid to eat and has no personality whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrekinboy Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (Mara @ Dec 10 2008, 05:14 PM) I have found that most guys DO think this way when it comes to personal interaction. OK, yeah, they drool and go gaga over the "That's It" thread, but women have their Chippendale calendars. . .(I don't - I have my Rush 2009 calendar ). Men generally do not expect, or necessarily WANT, someone who looks like a living Barbie doll. At least any man who is worth spending any amount of time with doesn't. Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage! And no man likes to take his date to a 5-star restaurant to watch her sip water and pick at bread crust (or know that he's going to shell out $150 for her meal and she's gonna throw it all up later). Agree but some people are naturally slimmer/skinnier. Your message is coming across loud and clear but be careful your support for women who feel pressurised to be thinner doesn't turn into a rant that damages the confidence of those who are genuinely thin; "Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage!" won't boost the self-image of our slimmer friends. The key thing is not to try and be something artificial to please others, but to be oneself and for the right reasons, whatever shape and size you are. (how preachy is that!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaoi_myantidrug Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 QUOTE (Xanadu93 @ Jan 2 2009, 09:32 AM) God, I get tired of hearing girls at my school complain about being fat, when they already weigh 90 pounds or less Same with girls I used to work with. All in good shape and complained all day. One is over-weight and diabetic but she doesnt say anything. Girls confuse me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Imagine if one of you gals met the man of your dreams and he turned out to be an airbrush artist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mara Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Jan 2 2009, 11:34 AM) QUOTE (Mara @ Dec 10 2008, 05:14 PM) I have found that most guys DO think this way when it comes to personal interaction. OK, yeah, they drool and go gaga over the "That's It" thread, but women have their Chippendale calendars. . .(I don't - I have my Rush 2009 calendar ). Men generally do not expect, or necessarily WANT, someone who looks like a living Barbie doll. At least any man who is worth spending any amount of time with doesn't. Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage! And no man likes to take his date to a 5-star restaurant to watch her sip water and pick at bread crust (or know that he's going to shell out $150 for her meal and she's gonna throw it all up later). Agree but some people are naturally slimmer/skinnier. Your message is coming across loud and clear but be careful your support for women who feel pressurised to be thinner doesn't turn into a rant that damages the confidence of those who are genuinely thin; "Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage!" won't boost the self-image of our slimmer friends. The key thing is not to try and be something artificial to please others, but to be oneself and for the right reasons, whatever shape and size you are. (how preachy is that!) Good point. Naturally skinny people ARE self-conscious, in many cases. I had an employee who, in her twenties, could eat like a field hand and not gain a pound. I mean, she was rail-thin: prominent hipbones, ribs. But she was healthy, and her parents were also quite thin and small-framed. She hated grocery shopping because everyone stared, and she frequently overheard comments such as, "she must have bulimia" or "maybe she's on meth". Thank you for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaoi_myantidrug Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 QUOTE (Mara @ Jan 2 2009, 09:36 PM) QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Jan 2 2009, 11:34 AM) QUOTE (Mara @ Dec 10 2008, 05:14 PM) I have found that most guys DO think this way when it comes to personal interaction. OK, yeah, they drool and go gaga over the "That's It" thread, but women have their Chippendale calendars. . .(I don't - I have my Rush 2009 calendar ). Men generally do not expect, or necessarily WANT, someone who looks like a living Barbie doll. At least any man who is worth spending any amount of time with doesn't. Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage! And no man likes to take his date to a 5-star restaurant to watch her sip water and pick at bread crust (or know that he's going to shell out $150 for her meal and she's gonna throw it all up later). Agree but some people are naturally slimmer/skinnier. Your message is coming across loud and clear but be careful your support for women who feel pressurised to be thinner doesn't turn into a rant that damages the confidence of those who are genuinely thin; "Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage!" won't boost the self-image of our slimmer friends. The key thing is not to try and be something artificial to please others, but to be oneself and for the right reasons, whatever shape and size you are. (how preachy is that!) Good point. Naturally skinny people ARE self-conscious, in many cases. I had an employee who, in her twenties, could eat like a field hand and not gain a pound. I mean, she was rail-thin: prominent hipbones, ribs. But she was healthy, and her parents were also quite thin and small-framed. She hated grocery shopping because everyone stared, and she frequently overheard comments such as, "she must have bulimia" or "maybe she's on meth". Thank you for the reminder. Not that Id rather be fat, but it does suck when people ask if you're anorexic. No bones sticking out, but I'm 5'4 and about 120. But I tell everybody I'm 130. Backwards maybe but I'm kind of a tomboy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 GG I agree with u 100 percent, I am of course abc and do not judge anyone by any means. I have always gone for the inner soul, but after 20 yrs my wife is gone, I am very frustrated with women but like I said I am 100 percent honest, It just hurts, thanks for letting me vent K>P>By the way I met u in Dallas, I think at the rush show, Long life fan since 77. Kevin Or abc. Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lya2112yyz Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 QUOTE (rnrgal @ Jan 1 2009, 02:58 PM) that's really sad, lya. Bad enough women in the US (and elsewhere) who are being targeted with these images are sent all these bad messages about beauty and body image and now the models themselves are feeling insecure and confused because of all this wizardry. If we thought models didn't reflect "real women" before... You and your sisters are lovely, by the way! Totally. It's very sad. There was (apparently) a time when women could be accepted for being real women, and models were a symbol of pure feminine beauty. Thanks for teh compliment too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyswing Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 While I haven't read all of the posts in this thread, I generally agree with the sentiment. There should be no significant alteration of any photo image of anyone or anything. By significant I mean, there should be allowances for necessary adjustments for light and color balance as they relate to reproduction and removing red eye, but not to the extent of creating a completely false image of the person or thing photographed. Giving women the impression that they have to look like someone who hasn't eaten anything substantial in years or who is artificially enhanced through technology is unfair and potentially dangerous. One of the best TV shows I've seen on this subject (body image) is "How to Look Good Naked." The best thing anyone can do is work with what they've got and people who really care will accept you for who you are as you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lya2112yyz Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Yes, yes, and double yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnrgal Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 QUOTE (Mara @ Jan 2 2009, 10:46 AM) Just use a goddamn computer-generated mannequin and be done with it already. At least then everyone would KNOW that the "perfection" was completely fabricated. No real-life version of flawlessness to starve and half-kill yourself trying to imitate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnrgal Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 QUOTE (Mara @ Jan 2 2009, 11:36 PM) QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Jan 2 2009, 11:34 AM) QUOTE (Mara @ Dec 10 2008, 05:14 PM) I have found that most guys DO think this way when it comes to personal interaction. OK, yeah, they drool and go gaga over the "That's It" thread, but women have their Chippendale calendars. . .(I don't - I have my Rush 2009 calendar ). Men generally do not expect, or necessarily WANT, someone who looks like a living Barbie doll. At least any man who is worth spending any amount of time with doesn't. Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage! And no man likes to take his date to a 5-star restaurant to watch her sip water and pick at bread crust (or know that he's going to shell out $150 for her meal and she's gonna throw it all up later). Agree but some people are naturally slimmer/skinnier. Your message is coming across loud and clear but be careful your support for women who feel pressurised to be thinner doesn't turn into a rant that damages the confidence of those who are genuinely thin; "Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage!" won't boost the self-image of our slimmer friends. The key thing is not to try and be something artificial to please others, but to be oneself and for the right reasons, whatever shape and size you are. (how preachy is that!) Good point. Naturally skinny people ARE self-conscious, in many cases. I had an employee who, in her twenties, could eat like a field hand and not gain a pound. I mean, she was rail-thin: prominent hipbones, ribs. But she was healthy, and her parents were also quite thin and small-framed. She hated grocery shopping because everyone stared, and she frequently overheard comments such as, "she must have bulimia" or "maybe she's on meth". Thank you for the reminder. True, and good posting, both of you, but the tolerance needs to work both ways. How much do overweight people get picked on in our society? How often do people assume, they must eat like a pig, they must be so lazy, they must have all kinds of health problems, etc. It isn't always so. There are some overweight people who are actually healthier than some "normal" weight people. (I know a few) It could be that's just how their metabolism is, or it's genetic for them to be large. In fact, this whole thing with the airbrushing/Photoshopping just further proves how much more overweight people are dissed than thin ones. It's telling people your fairly normal to slender, fit body isn't good enough, you have to be even thinner yet or you might be "fat." Ugh. Bottom line, people put too much emphasis on appearance and are too quick to judge others on that basis without knowing a thing about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrekinboy Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 QUOTE (rnrgal @ Jan 6 2009, 06:16 PM) QUOTE (Mara @ Jan 2 2009, 11:36 PM) QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Jan 2 2009, 11:34 AM) QUOTE (Mara @ Dec 10 2008, 05:14 PM) I have found that most guys DO think this way when it comes to personal interaction. OK, yeah, they drool and go gaga over the "That's It" thread, but women have their Chippendale calendars. . .(I don't - I have my Rush 2009 calendar ). Men generally do not expect, or necessarily WANT, someone who looks like a living Barbie doll. At least any man who is worth spending any amount of time with doesn't. Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage! And no man likes to take his date to a 5-star restaurant to watch her sip water and pick at bread crust (or know that he's going to shell out $150 for her meal and she's gonna throw it all up later). Agree but some people are naturally slimmer/skinnier. Your message is coming across loud and clear but be careful your support for women who feel pressurised to be thinner doesn't turn into a rant that damages the confidence of those who are genuinely thin; "Nobody likes to snuggle up to a skeleton with skin stretched over it; those bony elbows can inflict serious damage!" won't boost the self-image of our slimmer friends. The key thing is not to try and be something artificial to please others, but to be oneself and for the right reasons, whatever shape and size you are. (how preachy is that!) Good point. Naturally skinny people ARE self-conscious, in many cases. I had an employee who, in her twenties, could eat like a field hand and not gain a pound. I mean, she was rail-thin: prominent hipbones, ribs. But she was healthy, and her parents were also quite thin and small-framed. She hated grocery shopping because everyone stared, and she frequently overheard comments such as, "she must have bulimia" or "maybe she's on meth". Thank you for the reminder. True, and good posting, both of you, but the tolerance needs to work both ways. How much do overweight people get picked on in our society? How often do people assume, they must eat like a pig, they must be so lazy, they must have all kinds of health problems, etc. It isn't always so. There are some overweight people who are actually healthier than some "normal" weight people. (I know a few) It could be that's just how their metabolism is, or it's genetic for them to be large. In fact, this whole thing with the airbrushing/Photoshopping just further proves how much more overweight people are dissed than thin ones. It's telling people your fairly normal to slender, fit body isn't good enough, you have to be even thinner yet or you might be "fat." Ugh. Bottom line, people put too much emphasis on appearance and are too quick to judge others on that basis without knowing a thing about them. I think we are all in agreement then - tolerance must go both ways, its what's inside that counts etc. But in the interests of a good debate I'm going to be a little bit more controversial.... Over here in the UK we just had the World Darts Championship. As you may know, a few darts players have a reputation for being on the larger side and a little unfit due to the beer belly they supposedly have, and some do. However many of them are actually quite average build. Anyway the stereotype persists... The interesting thing this year was that a Dutch guy who got to the later stages called Jelle Klaasen is relatively slim. I say relatively because when you look at him he seems to have a very good physique, but with the accent on slim rather than muscular. But the commentator insisted on describing him as "whippet thin", which was nonsense. However compared to most darts players and indeed to the majority of men "in the street" he is slimmer. It is a simple fact that many more people who are not of average weight are overweight rather than underweight, in Western advanced countries at least. So when someone appears who is actually close to their ideal weight (medically speaking) they are usually described as slim or skinny because in comparison to most of their peers they appear that way. It's well documented that there are campaigns against obesity, unhealthy eating etc. in many countries and for good reason. So although you are right that the airbrushing stuff is disgraceful and there are very healthy overweight people around, the plain fact is that there are also too many overweight people around (here I'm talking about very overweight/obese) to be explained by justifiable reasons. Also, I get the feeling that if it was the other way around, i.e. a lot of very skinny/emaciated folks, then the airbrushing in magazines would be adding pounds and curviness rather than removing. As we seem to have established, men prefer curves so why make the women in pictures thinner? It must be mainly to make them want to be something that the majority are not (i.e. thin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernjim Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Dec 8 2008, 12:38 PM) Saw this on the Huffington Post... Even Jessica Friggin' Alba doesn't look good enough for the public. This is for a calendar, apparently. The original photo on the left had to be airbrushed into the unrealistic and ridiculous Barbie image on the right. http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/52490/original.jpg Because she looked horrendous in the original. I get so sick of this crap. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/08/j...t_n_149182.html hey ladies, i was bored, came in here, and thought "that's horrendous?! I prefer the original on the left!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Limelight* Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 QUOTE (treeduck @ Dec 8 2008, 10:44 AM) I think I prefer her in the first one actually, she looks more mysterious... Hello GG I'm with Ducky, the 1st one looks better. But i can see your point GG, on how everything has to be photoshopped to look just perfect now. Sometimes it gets just really stupid. Edit: Yes, the models/actresses always can look good cause they have "people" and "technoledgy" to perfect them down to the pixel, or skin cell. But truthfully, the most beautiful girls i know are the ones that are in real life, and not all dolled up by other proffesional workers. I'd take natural beauty with no make up no nothing over the all dolled up super glam photoshopped women anyday. (and yes i'm telling the truth 100%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garden Dancer Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 QUOTE (southernjim @ Jan 31 2009, 05:00 PM) QUOTE (GhostGirl @ Dec 8 2008, 12:38 PM) Saw this on the Huffington Post... Even Jessica Friggin' Alba doesn't look good enough for the public. This is for a calendar, apparently. The original photo on the left had to be airbrushed into the unrealistic and ridiculous Barbie image on the right. http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/52490/original.jpg Because she looked horrendous in the original. I get so sick of this crap. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/08/j...t_n_149182.html hey ladies, i was bored, came in here, and thought "that's horrendous?! I prefer the original on the left!" "Horrendous" was meant sarcastically... I think we all agree that the airbrushed/photochoped one is worse. Should have left it natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushfanNlv Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 This kind of thing can make some women forget (or ignore) just how beautiful they really are. It's a shame IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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