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  • Number of Rush Concerts Attended
    15+
  • Last Rush Concert Attended
    Manchester 14/10/07
  • Favorite Rush Song
    Here Again
  • Other Favorite Bands
    black crowes, free, led zeppelin, spirit, love, afghan whigs, jeff buckley, tim buckley, nick drake, raconteurs, pentangle, gun club, sandy denny, grateful dead, lynyrd skynyrd,
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  1. QUOTE (sanzo @ Jul 13 2011, 09:01 PM) I dont know if I should have posted this as the tour is past but just FYI I met a member of the crew, for a second time, in Manchester the day before the gig, we talked about stuff and I asked him where Rush were staying, I thought myself it would be in the lowry.,in Manchester. He said Ged and Al stay in a Hotel in London for all the UK shows and just travel up each day, thats quite a jaunt to Newcastle lol I cant remember where he said Neil stayed but he said most of the crew about staying around the cities they are playing in Delayed reply....haven't been on the board in a while. This is not true.....just the crew throwing a smokescreen. I met Geddy, Alex and some of the management in a hotel in one of the UK cities they visited this time. And one of the topics of their conversation was where they were staying in the next city.
  2. Jeff was great and his father (Tim) was even better. I agree they are both an acquired taste. But although you may not like their music it is difficult to deny their talent, both in terms of the emotion they put into their songs, and of course the incredible vocal range and control they both had. Some singers are just really talented at putting their own stamp on material and Jeff could do that too. Cover versions are often best left alone but whether he was covering Nina Simone, Van Morrison, Leonard Cohen he always brought something extra to it. I saw Jeff live and once stood next to him at a backstage bar in London - a really unassuming, gentle guy. Big Rush fan too according to those who knew him.
  3. Most people seem to be forgetting that this tour is primarily aimed at those places, in the US and Canada and elsewhere in the world, who didn't have the chance to see it last year. Why should they change it? If they do they will get as many complaints from overseas fans who drooled over the 2010 setlist and then when it arrives their favourite song has suddenly been dropped. You folks in the US are blessed with the amount of tours and different setlists you have seen. Get over it.
  4. QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 7 2011, 05:17 PM)QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 7 2011, 09:38 AM)Oh, please. There's no straw man argument here. There's a lot of Rush bashing on this board and, yes, some of it is justified. And there's no doubt in my mind you are going out of your way to criticize Geddy Lee. That's all. I wasn't "criticizing" Geddy; I was mentioning a reason for why I didn't get the lyrics that he was singing. (I do think that it wasn't the best way to sing them, though.) And how could you fail to understand that I was talking about a single line in a single song? When I said "overblown delivery", I was talking about the way that he sang "OOOOOF SALESMEN!!!" like it was something on 2112. Sheesh, on the same album you have "Different Strings", and I'd hardly call that overblown. QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 09:54 AM)SJ - before you start a thread bashing something you should probably make sure your position is reasonably sound. Whatever else Neil is, he is very well read and has a number of interests. His lyrics are therefore explained by a number of different references, themes etc. If you are not aware of them it says more about you than it does about his ability as a lyricist. And I was informed of the reference. I'd have removed the lines from the original post, but it's locked for some reason. QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Mar 7 2011, 09:54 AM)What is worse is that now that your lack of appreciation of the lyric is revealed, you switch the attack to Ged's delivery. I'm not "switching my attack". See my response to ReRushed. Look, guys, I didn't get the line. I got that. Why do we have to argue about anything now, let alone whether or not I appreciate Geddy's singing? SJ - ok fair enough. But you'd hardly expect Ged to sing the last few lyrics to TSoR in a manner closer to Simon and Garfunkel to help listeners make the link. Remember that part of the song is a reggae-style breakdown, so he was pretty limited in the way he can sing it. Then comes the 'SALESMEN!' because it precedes a mega guitar break from Alex so it all works in terms of the dynamics of the song, imho. I'm not saying that the song and the lyric is beyond criticism, but it seemed a strange choice for you to start a thread about terrible lyrics with additional comments on the singer's delivery, don'cha think? Let's face it, as a song TSoR is one of Neil's most successful lyrics, again imho. For me it ranks up there with 'Subdivisions' as a song where I can always remember the lyrics, because they are so well executed.
  5. QUOTE (StellarJetman @ Mar 7 2011, 04:12 PM)QUOTE (Tony R @ Mar 7 2011, 09:05 AM) And dear me, if you've heard tSoR and The Sound Of Silence how can you possibly not make the connection? It's been a while since I last listened to "The Sound of Silence" (I had a quick go on YouTube just now to refresh my memory), and there's a world of difference between Geddy's screaming and Paul's and Art's harmonious delivery, to say nothing of the completely different melodies. I can see the connection now, but only because I was looking for it. SJ - before you start a thread bashing something you should probably make sure your position is reasonably sound. Whatever else Neil is, he is very well read and has a number of interests. His lyrics are therefore explained by a number of different references, themes etc. If you are not aware of them it says more about you than it does about his ability as a lyricist. What is worse is that now that your lack of appreciation of the lyric is revealed, you switch the attack to Ged's delivery. Epic fail x2.
  6. QUOTE (CMWriter @ Mar 7 2011, 04:12 AM)QUOTE (ReRushed @ Mar 6 2011, 08:58 PM) These lyrics make me cringe every time: What can this strange device be? When I touch it, it gives forth a sound It's got wires that vibrate, and give music What can this thing be that I found? I understand the significance and love the idea behind it, but.. Yeah. The first time I heard "Discovery" I was laughing my butt off. I don't think it's terrible, it's just.. a little oddly worded, perhaps? If I ever listen to 2112 and my dad's in the room during Presentation, he starts making little mocking, whiny-sounding comments like, "Don't yelll at meee!!" The back-and-forth between the Priests and the Protagonist is interesting, but kind of amusing. These lyrics are fine given the context. The only problem is they are slightly illogical. It is supposed to be a person who has never seen a musical instrument - "what can this strange device be?" - but he then says it gives music when he touches it. If he knows what music is then as soon as he has touched it he must know what the device is for. If he doesn't know what music is then how does he know it is music that it is producing?
  7. QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Mar 7 2011, 03:15 AM)None of those are even close to his worst. Dog Years is immediately what I think of when it comes to that. The line from TSOR fits the song perfectly. The words written on the studio walls I always thought referred to a wall that rocks stars signed while visiting a radio station studio. Or possibly autographed pictures of them hanging up on a wall in the studio. The line "echoes with the sounds of salesmen" makes perfect sense because it's referring to advertisements on the radio. And since it's a song about radio what's the big deal? The lyrics to TSoR are a doff of the cap to 'The Sound of Silence' by Simon and Garfunkel, which goes: "And the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls And tenement halls, and whispered in the sounds of silence" Unfortunately we have to have a comprehensive knowledge of musical history to pick up all the references in lyrics, not just Neil's. It is similar to film directors who insert into their own movies a homage to their own heroes and sometimes it is not entirely picked up by the audience.
  8. QUOTE (Enemy Within 77 @ Mar 3 2011, 07:13 AM)QUOTE (Xanadoood @ Mar 2 2011, 09:28 PM) QUOTE (treeduck @ Mar 2 2011, 09:04 PM) Why these two bands in the same thread? Are they touring together? Yeah, i was wondering the same thing. two COMPLETELY different styles. Add me to that list too. I was going to start a Frank Sinatra/Slipknot thread but I couldn't see enough of a connection in respect of the social commentary in their lyrics, otherwise it would have worked I think.
  9. Saw Billy Cobham at Ronnie Scott's in London on Friday. First time I'd seen him although I know of Neil's admiration for him. And I can see why. The guy is in his mid-60s and still has a kick like a mule, fantastic rhythm, dexterity etc. He played stuff off 'Crosswinds', 'Palindrome' (his latest) and others I didn't know. Fantastic band too including Michael Mondesir on bass and Junior Gill on steel drum and percussion. Neil is good but Cobham is a gateway to another place.......man.
  10. 'Once Upon a Time in America' original book it was based on was 'The Hoods' - seemed pretty ordinary having read it
  11. QUOTE (ILSnwdog @ Jan 10 2011, 03:32 PM)QUOTE (tkdryan @ Jan 9 2011, 10:30 PM) wow, i have two new dream cars , The California by Ferrari , and a Porsche Panamera when i have kids If you want a dream four door when the kids arrive, check out the Maserati Quattroporte! http://www.justcar.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/maserati-quattroporte11.jpg No one builds a sexier car than the Italians. If I was loaded, I'd have a tough time picking between that car or the Cadillac CTS-V. Maserati's are nice but for the overall package - speed, performance, reliability, build quality and engineering you have to go with Porsche - I'm biased though being a Carrera owner.
  12. Yep, saw Joe with BCC in London last night - they were very, very good. He really ripped it up on DP's 'Burn'. Definitely check them if they play near you.
  13. QUOTE (slappa_da_bass @ Dec 17 2010, 04:12 PM)QUOTE (wrekinboy @ Dec 17 2010, 08:54 AM) There are several reasons why you should go no further with this; -taking the idea and copying it so closely is just not right; an 'epic fail' in modern parlance -once somebody has done it then it should be left, otherwise we'll have countless attempts at all 155 -you are a little on the young side to be making such judgemental statements on the music and especially the lyrics; having an opinion at any age is fine, but you should watch how you deliver it -a lot is already plain wrong (e.g. the water/wine lyric above is neither tacky or funny - it makes perfect sense in the context of a song about advancing age) -if you are not even going to spell correctly the names of rock legends..... 1) The other guy quit in the middle of it. He was updating every day but has now failed to update in weeks. 2) No one's doing it now 3) Oh please. The only people to ever say things like that are boring old people with little accomplished in their lives who want credit just for having existed this long. Not saying that's it in your case, of course 4) Maybe true 5) Maybe true With all that being said, I have a feeling anyone trying to do something of this calibre is going to encounter lots of "problems" ..... 1) He's a teacher or something similar - he'll get back to it now the holidays are here 2) Thankfully 3) I'm 12 years old (maybe a little less mentally) 4) Maybe? 5) MAYBE? Jimmy Page is Jimmy Page not Jimmy Paige
  14. QUOTE (GeddysMullet @ Dec 17 2010, 03:06 PM)I think it's laughable that people get so uptight about this. I mean, come on, it's just some opinion on a forum. Stay out of the thread if it twists your knickers this much! Indeed it is just a forum for opinions - so why do I have to stay out of it? Not that my knickers are twisted - in fact I am sitting here as calm as a very calm thing - but even if they were why can't I express my knicker-twistedness?
  15. QUOTE (Good @ bad,andrush,Dec 16 2010, 03:49 AM)150.I THINK I'M GOING BALD .75/10 A catchy song with upbeat rhythms. It's got tacky but funny and somewhat intriguing lyrics, i.e. "once we would take water, but now it must be wine." But it still suffers from that basic rock syndrome, and that's sad. You would think that by now, they had gotten rid of basic rock music, but apparently they hadn't. There's a catchy drum beat, but the bass is unnoticeable, and the guitar is just a heavier version of the riff from In The Mood. The weird noise at the beginning is completely irrelevant, and for that it loses point. Geddy's vocals are...interesting. Especially the way he says, "my way!" Alex has a nice Jimmy Paige solo going there, and that's all there is to this song. This song is better to listen to if you don't expect it to be serious. There are several reasons why you should go no further with this; -taking the idea and copying it so closely is just not right; an 'epic fail' in modern parlance -once somebody has done it then it should be left, otherwise we'll have countless attempts at all 155 -you are a little on the young side to be making such judgemental statements on the music and especially the lyrics; having an opinion at any age is fine, but you should watch how you deliver it -a lot is already plain wrong (e.g. the water/wine lyric above is neither tacky or funny - it makes perfect sense in the context of a song about advancing age) -if you are not even going to spell correctly the names of rock legends.....
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