GEDDY: There IS an Unreleased Filmed 1997 Rush Concert!

[Holdyourfireal]

Will Ole/Anthem ever bother to release? Go to 11:08: 

 

[snowdog2112]

Yeah I think we all saw the interview at the time. I mean we’ve known it exists, we’ve had half of it for 10 years. Would be nice to get the rest at some point. From what I understand Different Stages has been out of print for a long time, I’ve had some hopes in recent years they would re-release it as a Blu-ray/cd package to have an opportunity to release the whole film. I guess it’s always possible.  

[Rush Didact]

Yes

[Holdyourfireal]

1 minute ago, snowdog2112 said:

Yeah I think we all saw the interview at the time. I mean we’ve known it exists, we’ve had half of it for 10 years. Would be nice to get the rest at some point. From what I understand Different Stages has been out of print for a long time, I’ve had some hopes in recent years they would re-release it as a Blu-ray/cd package to have an opportunity to release the whole film. I guess it’s always possible.  

 

So, this is the Molson Amphitheatre Show that was partially released on the (original) R40 Box Set Bonus Disc?

[Holdyourfireal]

So, if Geddy is talking about this show from R40, this is what we have/don'r have:

 

 

6/30/97 Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto Setlist

Dreamline

Limelight

Stick It Out

Driven

Half The World

Red Barchetta

Animate

Limbo

The Trees

Virtuality

Nobody's Hero

Closer To The Heart

2112 (complete rendition)

Test For Echo

Freewill

Red Sector A

Roll The Bones

Resist

Leave That Thing Alone

The Rhythm Method

Natural Science

Force Ten

The Spirit Of Radio

Tom Sawyer

Encore:

YYZ

Cygnus X-1: Book I: The Voyage (teaser)

*Bold are Missing from the R40 Bonus Blu-Ray   From YouTube, some video of it:

[snowdog2112]

13 hours ago, Holdyourfireal said:

 

So, this is the Molson Amphitheatre Show that was partially released on the (original) R40 Box Set Bonus Disc?

Yes.

[chemistry2024]

17 hours ago, Holdyourfireal said:

 

So, this is the Molson Amphitheatre Show that was partially released on the (original) R40 Box Set Bonus Disc?

I would say most definitely 

[malm_51]

Do Geddy and Alex have any say in what gets released? Anyone know?

[grep]

There is a technical problem with the video if I remember correctly.  Which I think is why only half was released.

[snowdog2112]

22 minutes ago, grep said:

There is a technical problem with the video if I remember correctly.  Which I think is why only half was released.

True, there had been known audio problems previously but I doubt that was the case, it took money and more modern technology but I think they fixed the whole thing. To me it seems pretty clear that they cherry picked all the songs that didn’t previously have live video releases plus a few more. The released songs are from throughout the show so the odds seem remote that any audio defects would only have been limited to songs we already have versions of and just happened to skip Nobody’s Hero and all the TFE songs and all of 2112, etc. 

 

It’s more likely that it was a partial on purpose. Especially when even the songs they did release weren’t on all versions, you had to get the completist version for three of them. The pattern has been there with several. We got part of the AFTK show and the whole thing much later. We got part of the R30 concert and the whole thing much later. The 1974 and 1976 shows were released a couple songs at a time and the whole thing much later. They also only released half of the Presto show, which also just happened to have all the Presto songs that weren’t available anywhere else. I think it’s obviously intentional spacing it out. 
 

 

[snowdog2112]

1 hour ago, malm_51 said:

Do Geddy and Alex have any say in what gets released? Anyone know?

I would imagine they probably retain some veto or final approval power when approached by the new owners, but I can’t imagine they have any creative or initiative input whatsoever. In other words, there’s no chance Geddy and Alex will ever say “Hey guys, next we want you to put together a package featuring this tour” (or era or whatever). And I seriously doubt they know about what’s in the “vault” more than anyone else. And I’m sure they don’t really care. Most bands’ members don’t live in the past like the fans do. 

[Rush Didact]

5 minutes ago, snowdog2112 said:

True, there had been known audio problems previously but I doubt that was the case, it took money and more modern technology but I think they fixed the whole thing. To me it seems pretty clear that they cherry picked all the songs that didn’t previously have live video releases plus a few more. The released songs are from throughout the show so the odds seem remote that any audio defects would only have been limited to songs we already have versions of and just happened to skip Nobody’s Hero and all the TFE songs and all of 2112, etc. 

 

It’s more likely that it was a partial on purpose. Especially when even the songs they did release weren’t on all versions, you had to get the completist version for three of them. The pattern has been there with several. We got part of the AFTK show and the whole thing much later. We got part of the R30 concert and the whole thing much later. The 1974 and 1976 shows were released a couple songs at a time and the whole thing much later. They also only released half of the Presto show, which also just happened to have all the Presto songs that weren’t available anywhere else. I think it’s obviously intentional spacing it out. 
 

 

 

It's obnoxious is what it is.

 

This, sadly, is exactly the kind of thing Neil was complaining about in The Spirit of Radio. Glittering prizes and endless compromises, indeed.

[snowdog2112]

I guess so. I think it’s just practical business reality for them. I swear I remember an interview or at least a quote from Pegi Cecconi that was to the effect of “If we put everything out we have at once we’ll be empty quickly because there’s really not that much.”

 

I hate relating that stuff by memory because even though I’m pretty OCD and have a good memory I know I’ll be asked now to go find it and verify it. But I’m pretty sure it was her and that was the gist of it. 

[Alexmai]

I think that in a few months AI will consent to release stuff that seems ruined... so let's wait for everything!

[Holdyourfireal]

15 hours ago, malm_51 said:

Do Geddy and Alex have any say in what gets released? Anyone know?

 

They just get consulted and maybe have some level of approval. Basically, they're out of the Rush business at this point.

[malm_51]

 

2 hours ago, Holdyourfireal said:

 

They just get consulted and maybe have some level of approval. Basically, they're out of the Rush business at this point.

Oh ok!  

Edited October 29, 2024 by malm_51

[TheAnarchist2112]

i guess we'll probably never get this now...

[ytserush]

On 10/28/2024 at 9:43 PM, snowdog2112 said:

I guess so. I think it’s just practical business reality for them. I swear I remember an interview or at least a quote from Pegi Cecconi that was to the effect of “If we put everything out we have at once we’ll be empty quickly because there’s really not that much.”

 

I hate relating that stuff by memory because even though I’m pretty OCD and have a good memory I know I’ll be asked now to go find it and verify it. But I’m pretty sure it was her and that was the gist of it. 

I remember that too but they can do better organizing what's on the releases instead of doing it piecemeal

[BanterFromTheCosmos]

With R50 not including a DVD or blu-ray, I think it's pretty unlikely we'll ever get the full concert now. What we did get on R40 is good, but having the whole thing would be wonderful. 

[ytserush]

4 hours ago, BanterFromTheCosmos said:

With R50 not including a DVD or blu-ray, I think it's pretty unlikely we'll ever get the full concert now. What we did get on R40 is good, but having the whole thing would be wonderful. 

It's possible it will be on another release where 85 percent of the music will be reissued.