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Posted 20 March 2017 - 09:06 AM

The point is that the bass guitar does not always have to be melting the frets.

This band from my part of the world were just wonderful and the bass guitar player was superb but he just worked with the drummer and solid together to support the band so well.

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" I was quite happy with being told to play bass. It was 2 less strings,and being a lazy man, it was fantastic for me!" Gary Lee Weinrib aka Geddy Lee :geddy:

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Posted Yesterday, 09:14 AM

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

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View PostXanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

Billy Sheehan does nothing for me at all.

If I want to listen to mega bass virtuoso I'd pick John Myung all day. At least he has control and knows what fits a song when needed:


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View PostXanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

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View PostXanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

Billy Sheehan does nothing for me at all.

If I want to listen to mega bass virtuoso I'd pick John Myung all day. At least he has control and knows what fits a song when needed:



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Posted Yesterday, 04:36 PM

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Yes, but probably harder to master.

I think the physical layout of a 6 string electric is harder to play, simply because the strings are much closer together and pickups tend to reveal all your mistakes much easier.  Mastering a 6 string at the level proficient enough to be considered 'master' is certainly not for slouches.
Indeed not. Maybe it's because of where my interest lies, but it seems there are far more guitar masters (the phrase "a dime a dozen" comes to mind) than bass masters.

It's definitely more popular, but I was speaking purely from a mechanics point of view.  Guitar and what it takes to play it at that level IMO is more difficult due to mechanical challenges (assuming finger / hand size not being factored).

I think playing to a high standard they are both different disciplines. As a reasonably accomplished guitar player I would not argue with you, but I would also say that it would take me a long time and a lot of practise to play the bass to the same standard.

The six string guitar is such an idio syncratic instrument. The tuning for a start does not follow any traditional logic. Why tune it in 5th's then tune the 5th string as a 4th?

That is why it is almost impossible to learn to play music on guitar by the traditional musical staves.

That is why I preferred to learn piano to study musical theory at college.

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Posted Yesterday, 06:42 PM

 Xanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

Billy Sheehan is considered to be a wanker. In this sense it means playing bass like a guitar. Too many worthless notes just trying to look cool.

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Posted Yesterday, 06:52 PM

View PostEagleMoon, on 22 March 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

View PostXanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

Billy Sheehan is considered to be a wanker. In this sense it means playing bass like a guitar. Too many worthless notes just trying to look cool.

Eagle I think that is a bit unfair

Billy Sheehan is a great player. He just did his own thing.

Why the f**k should a bass player not use the right hand finger taping technique playing like a guitarist?

The technique is not exclusive to 6 string you know?

So many different styles and techniques on the bass

Eddie Van Halen adapted the "slap bass" technique to work on guitar.

It is all just creativity and invention Eagle

My favourite all time bass guitar player is Jaco Pastorius and he never gave a shit about what was supposed to be "normal"

He did incredible stuff including harmonics on the bass which had not been tried before XXXXXX

https://youtu.be/Ae0nwSv6cTU

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Posted Yesterday, 07:04 PM

View PostSteve Smith, on 22 March 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

View Poststoopid, on 15 March 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

View PostJARG, on 15 March 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

View Poststoopid, on 15 March 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

View PostJARG, on 15 March 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

Yes, but probably harder to master.

I think the physical layout of a 6 string electric is harder to play, simply because the strings are much closer together and pickups tend to reveal all your mistakes much easier.  Mastering a 6 string at the level proficient enough to be considered 'master' is certainly not for slouches.
Indeed not. Maybe it's because of where my interest lies, but it seems there are far more guitar masters (the phrase "a dime a dozen" comes to mind) than bass masters.

It's definitely more popular, but I was speaking purely from a mechanics point of view.  Guitar and what it takes to play it at that level IMO is more difficult due to mechanical challenges (assuming finger / hand size not being factored).

I think playing to a high standard they are both different disciplines. As a reasonably accomplished guitar player I would not argue with you, but I would also say that it would take me a long time and a lot of practise to play the bass to the same standard.

The six string guitar is such an idio syncratic instrument. The tuning for a start does not follow any traditional logic. Why tune it in 5th's then tune the 5th string as a 4th?

That is why it is almost impossible to learn to play music on guitar by the traditional musical staves.

That is why I preferred to learn piano to study musical theory at college.

Interesting point. My brother and his son both play keys, and they really don't " get" the guitar. My brother has said all guitar players play in the key of E... haha

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Posted Yesterday, 07:15 PM

View PostXanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

View PostSteve Smith, on 22 March 2017 - 04:36 PM, said:

View Poststoopid, on 15 March 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

View PostJARG, on 15 March 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

View Poststoopid, on 15 March 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

View PostJARG, on 15 March 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

Yes, but probably harder to master.

I think the physical layout of a 6 string electric is harder to play, simply because the strings are much closer together and pickups tend to reveal all your mistakes much easier.  Mastering a 6 string at the level proficient enough to be considered 'master' is certainly not for slouches.
Indeed not. Maybe it's because of where my interest lies, but it seems there are far more guitar masters (the phrase "a dime a dozen" comes to mind) than bass masters.

It's definitely more popular, but I was speaking purely from a mechanics point of view.  Guitar and what it takes to play it at that level IMO is more difficult due to mechanical challenges (assuming finger / hand size not being factored).

I think playing to a high standard they are both different disciplines. As a reasonably accomplished guitar player I would not argue with you, but I would also say that it would take me a long time and a lot of practise to play the bass to the same standard.

The six string guitar is such an idio syncratic instrument. The tuning for a start does not follow any traditional logic. Why tune it in 5th's then tune the 5th string as a 4th?

That is why it is almost impossible to learn to play music on guitar by the traditional musical staves.

That is why I preferred to learn piano to study musical theory at college.

Interesting point. My brother and his son both play keys, and they really don't " get" the guitar. My brother has said all guitar players play in the key of E... haha

Brian May once said that working with Freddie made him so much better on guitar because he had to learn to play in all those piano keys that Freddie wrote in that were a complete f***ing bitch on guitar. Keys like A flat, E flat and D flat which are just a beast!!!! Brian never used a capo or de-tuned, he just had to learn the fretboard better XXXXXXX

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Posted Yesterday, 09:05 PM

 Steve Smith, on 22 March 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

 EagleMoon, on 22 March 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

 Xanadoood, on 22 March 2017 - 09:14 AM, said:

Most bass players I know could care less about chops. They like the groove and the ability to lock in with the drummer. Guys like billy Sheehan , with his solos, are chuckled at. Respected, sure. But no one needs to play the bass like that.

Geddy is a good balance. Melodic lines with just enough chops.

Billy Sheehan is considered to be a wanker. In this sense it means playing bass like a guitar. Too many worthless notes just trying to look cool.

Eagle I think that is a bit unfair

Billy Sheehan is a great player. He just did his own thing.

Why the f**k should a bass player not use the right hand finger taping technique playing like a guitarist?

The technique is not exclusive to 6 string you know?

So many different styles and techniques on the bass

Eddie Van Halen adapted the "slap bass" technique to work on guitar.

It is all just creativity and invention Eagle

My favourite all time bass guitar player is Jaco Pastorius and he never gave a shit about what was supposed to be "normal"

He did incredible stuff including harmonics on the bass which had not been tried before XXXXXX

https://youtu.be/Ae0nwSv6cTU

I didn't say anything about  being normal, that's not exactly what I mean. I mean he plays bass like a guitar. Not just the tapping. Comparing Jaco to him is like comparing a 747 to a prop plane. There is creative playing and then there is showing off with not a whole lot of talent behind it.

Edited by EagleMoon, Yesterday, 09:06 PM.


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Posted Today, 06:04 AM

Plus Stu Hamm does a shitload of bass tapping and nobody I know thinks he's a bass douche :D




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