bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 yea some singers do not translate live. Amy is one of those. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 She always sings live, unless the power to do so is out of her control. She has good days, and bad days. She has learned to do the best with what she has got. Her faults are hers and I love them.If Taylor Swift was 300lbs and ugly, her career would be limited to karaoke night at her local bowling alley. Nope. She would likely be a top notch songwriter. She writes fantastic pop songs with some of the wittiest barbs I have ever heard. I am not a massive fan of her because she is pretty (she doesn't come close to the likes of Cristina Scabbia or Kate Beckinsale in the looks department). I am a massive fan because I think she is the best commercially successful pop songwriter of the millennium to date. I rank her alongside Springsteen and Stevie Nicks as my third favourite American solo artist ever."best commercially successful pop"....sort of like McDonald's right? Sorry I prefer more substance than McSwift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Some would say ged was that way.........Even in his prime. now for sure, lol Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 yea some singers do not translate live. Amy is one of those. Mickparrot wanna cracker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 yea some singers do not translate live. Amy is one of those. Mick Also, many singers get it perfect in the studio, because they have the time and ability to record on top form. Live, it is more spontaneous and often, the level of perfection achieved in the studio is impossible to render live. Again, Cristina Scabbia admitted her vocals in Dark Adrenaline were very hard to replicate live, so for Broken Crown Halo, both she and And I decided to focus on writing songs more suited for live performances. I am glad artists really push themselves in the studio, but I rarely expect them to be note perfect on stage. Especially with bombastic metal/rock. But flaws are overcome with passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 yea some singers do not translate live. Amy is one of those. Mick Also, many singers get it perfect in the studio, because they have the time and ability to record on top form. Live, it is more spontaneous and often, the level of perfection achieved in the studio is impossible to render live. Again, Cristina Scabbia admitted her vocals in Dark Adrenaline were very hard to replicate live, so for Broken Crown Halo, both she and And I decided to focus on writing songs more suited for live performances. I am glad artists really push themselves in the studio, but I rarely expect them to be note perfect on stage. Especially with bombastic metal/rock. But flaws are overcome with passion. much as i defend him.......labrie is a grab bag. he can brilliant live. but WAY off a lot. i mean a lot, lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 She always sings live, unless the power to do so is out of her control. She has good days, and bad days. She has learned to do the best with what she has got. Her faults are hers and I love them.If Taylor Swift was 300lbs and ugly, her career would be limited to karaoke night at her local bowling alley. Nope. She would likely be a top notch songwriter. She writes fantastic pop songs with some of the wittiest barbs I have ever heard. I am not a massive fan of her because she is pretty (she doesn't come close to the likes of Cristina Scabbia or Kate Beckinsale in the looks department). I am a massive fan because I think she is the best commercially successful pop songwriter of the millennium to date. I rank her alongside Springsteen and Stevie Nicks as my third favourite American solo artist ever."best commercially successful pop"....sort of like McDonald's right? Sorry I prefer more substance than McSwift. Just because you don't like something does not mean your opinion is the correct, or only one to hold. She has a lot of depth, she wrote a beautiful song in collaboration with a mother who lost her son to cancer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvN7BOAQn9 "She has no soul", "she does it all for the money", "she never sings live". Eugh. She is great, and she even admits to not being the best singer. BUT SHE WRITES ALL HER OWN SONGS, PLAYS HER OWN INSTRUMENTS, AND PERFORMS LIVE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 "She has no soul", "she does it all for the money", "she never sings live". Eugh. She is great, and she even admits to not being the best singer. BUT SHE WRITES ALL HER OWN SONGS, PLAYS HER OWN INSTRUMENTS, AND PERFORMS LIVE. May not be the biggest fan....but she is the real deal.......compared to most pop stars. Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 "She has no soul", "she does it all for the money", "she never sings live". Eugh. She is great, and she even admits to not being the best singer. BUT SHE WRITES ALL HER OWN SONGS, PLAYS HER OWN INSTRUMENTS, AND PERFORMS LIVE. May not be the biggest fan....but she is the real deal.......compared to most pop stars. Mick Exactly. People hate on her like she is some fake symbol of all that is wrong with modern music, like, say, Miley Cyrus or Katy Perry (whose work I also enjoy tee hee). But she is the real deal, the full package whether you like her or not. And everyone I know who likes Taylor Swift ADORES her songs, whether it be just a few singles or whole albums. She really is on point with her career, and she is a lovely person as well, the way she really includes her fans in her everyday life, to inviting other singers to join her onstage, and the way she just makes sure her personality, not looks, shines through all she does. And you know what? Like Gwen Stefani or Stevie Nicks, I hear the weakness in her voice, but its how she uses her strengths, both as a singer and a songwriter, that reels me in. Funny, but most of my favourite singers are not "natural born non-instruments". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick Edited December 3, 2015 by bluefox4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick Hahaha she also looked...interesting! No I love her, especially in No Doubt. Live, her voice grates but as a fan I really admire her. And she knows she hasn't the strongest voice. At least she still sang live! Gwen just is something awesome to me (not so much her first two solo albums). And her voice has plenty for me to love! Then again, Mick, when my favourite artist is Springsteen, and yours is Waits, I think it fair to say we probably have the worst ear for great vocals haha! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? I love Gwen, but even I turned it off after two minutes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick Hahaha she also looked...interesting! No I love her, especially in No Doubt. Live, her voice grates but as a fan I really admire her. And she knows she hasn't the strongest voice. At least she still sang live! Gwen just is something awesome to me (not so much her first two solo albums). And her voice has plenty for me to love! Then again, Mick, when my favourite artist is Springsteen, and yours is Waits, I think it fair to say we probably have the worst ear for great vocals haha! true. i LOVE certain horrible voices. WaitsDylanCohenDonald Fagen (Steely Dan) Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? Channal Surfing. i gave gwen a chance......she frightened me. lol Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Waits (Rain Dogs mainly...for now)Stevie NicksAndrea Ferro (a dude if anyone wonders)Gwen StefaniBruce Springsteen (although personally I think he has a great voice)Taylor SwiftChristopher Simpson (little known nineties emo/indie vocalist). Talented singers I just do not like: Freddy MercuryElla FitzgeraldTom JonesShirley BassetAdele (great voice...but makes me want to smash something) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? Channal Surfing. i gave gwen a chance......she frightened me. lol Mick Her whole look was...wow...I kept wondering where the old lady was: "HELP! SOMEONE GET MY WIG BACK!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? Channal Surfing. i gave gwen a chance......she frightened me. lol Mick That show creeps me out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? Channal Surfing. i gave gwen a chance......she frightened me. lol Mick Her whole look was...wow...I kept wondering where the old lady was: "HELP! SOMEONE GET MY WIG BACK!" my dad goes.........is she gonna be um.........ok? :laughing guy: Mick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm sorry Segue......i know you love her......but Gwen Stefani sang on the voice the other night. i wanted to throat punch her. lol Mick You were watching The Voice? Channal Surfing. i gave gwen a chance......she frightened me. lol Mick Her whole look was...wow...I kept wondering where the old lady was: "HELP! SOMEONE GET MY WIG BACK!" my dad goes.........is she gonna be um.........ok? :laughing guy: Mick I do love that song though, and it is painful subject matter, and her hair was slowly taking over her soul. Face it, you can hate on Gwen, I can agree on most of it, but I love her absolutely! Top ten music hero for me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del_Duio Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Who do you always see on shows like American Idol? Limited talent singers. Who usually gets the big head and breaks up a band? The singer. Notice I used the word 'usually'. There are singers that I consider quite talented...Amy Lee for example. But to me, they're the most overrated and disposable person in a rock band (well maybe next to the keyboardist). Oh I disagree 100%. A singer is the hardest member to replace because to me many people can play an instrument and produce equal (or close) results, however many singers are completely unique and impossible to duplicate. That's like saying you can replace a lead guitarist with a kazoo player and it'd make no difference. Crazy talk! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segue Myles Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Who do you always see on shows like American Idol? Limited talent singers. Who usually gets the big head and breaks up a band? The singer. Notice I used the word 'usually'. There are singers that I consider quite talented...Amy Lee for example. But to me, they're the most overrated and disposable person in a rock band (well maybe next to the keyboardist). Oh I disagree 100%. A singer is the hardest member to replace because to me many people can play an instrument and produce equal (or close) results, however many singers are completely unique and impossible to duplicate. That's like saying you can replace a lead guitarist with a kazoo player and it'd make no difference. Crazy talk! 100% agreed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefox4000 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 We've Seen bands replace players and be just fine. but replace with a bad singer and you are really screwed. Mick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiBeers Posted December 3, 2015 Author Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) Who do you always see on shows like American Idol? Limited talent singers. Who usually gets the big head and breaks up a band? The singer. Notice I used the word 'usually'. There are singers that I consider quite talented...Amy Lee for example. But to me, they're the most overrated and disposable person in a rock band (well maybe next to the keyboardist). Oh I disagree 100%. A singer is the hardest member to replace because to me many people can play an instrument and produce equal (or close) results, however many singers are completely unique and impossible to duplicate. That's like saying you can replace a lead guitarist with a kazoo player and it'd make no difference. Crazy talk! 100% agreed!Oh yeah VH went down the tubes after Dave quit. That Steve Perry guy really messed up Journey by replacing what's his name. Black Sabbath will go downhill with that Ronnie Dio guy. Singers are more disposable than the drummer from Spinal Tap. VH is a good example...no one really cares who the singer is, they're there to see Eddie. Edited December 3, 2015 by 2112FirstStreet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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