barney_rebel Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/11/19/tom-brady-chases-down-and-berates-ref-drops-f-bomb-after-controversial-call-seals-new-england-patriots-loss/ New England Patriots’ Tom Brady chases down and berates ref, drops F-bomb after controversial call seals loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney_rebel Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 http://deadsp.in/ynhStjs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://sports.nation...-patriots-loss/ New England Patriots’ Tom Brady chases down and berates ref, drops F-bomb after controversial call seals loss lol, nice outburst, but toally justified. I hate the Pats but that was beyond interference, it was assault and battery. hahahaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://deadsp.in/ynhStjs looks like he wasnt wearing a cup! bad idea. now whose proud to have a big dick - MAN! brutal :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4TWMXZsiYE SHe did punch him first, as did her companions. http://nypost.com/2013/10/22/woman-punched-in-face-by-jets-fan-charged-with-assault/ Yes, she's hot. Babealicious justice NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney_rebel Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 http://gaw.kr/bQcYU89 Witnesses Say Alabama Fan Shot and Killed Someone Over the Team's Loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney_rebel Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 http://deadspin.com/i-cant-stop-watching-this-old-man-kick-an-asu-fan-in-t-1476499198 Old Man Kicks An ASU Fan In The Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney_rebel Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 http://deadsp.in/PASV1LY Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod in Toronto Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 http://deadsp.in/PASV1LY Jesus I was watching the game live and saw almost everything...had to change the channel after a while - it was clear that some of those guys whould suffer some brain damage, if not death! This was terrible, and I´m quite embarassed byt that as a Brazilian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney_rebel Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 http://deadspin.com/female-alabama-fan-ambushes-oklahoma-bro-at-sugar-bowl-1493975001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 (edited) http://www.sbnation....ces-brawl-video Is this Basebrawl?? Minor leagues... Edited September 6, 2014 by lerxt1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 This tom foolery must end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 What a DICK! :) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/guy-pops-beach-ball-football-game-video_n_5761464.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 And we missed some WC action... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ladies, LADIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ymcs2dALlCc#t=32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughedatbytime Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ladies, LADIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.c...mcs2dALlCc#t=32Looks like every Jerry Springer show ever filmed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 http://thechive.com/2015/07/06/sometimes-taunting-doesnt-go-as-planned-video/?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=41430159&utm_content=Sometimes+taunting+doesn%27t+go+as+plann&utm_campaign=July#.qzxz7m:o9KK Sports taunting gone wrong. :laughing guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCrs63JeuM When all else fails, just slam the ref. ------------------------------- Texas school district investigates after players hit referee The Associated PressPOSTED: Sunday, September 6, 2015, 11:15 AM MARBLE FALLS, Texas (AP) - A San Antonio School district is investigating after a football player ran into the back of a referee watching a play and another player then dove into the official after he fell. Both players were ejected from the game. Northside Independent School District athletic director Stan Laing told the San Antonio Express-News that video of the incident was "very disturbing." Laing said the district is investigating what led up to the incident. The team from John Jay High School in San Antonio was playing Marble Falls High School in Marble Falls, located about 90 miles north of San Antonio. Before the referee was hit, two Jay players had been ejected on separate plays. The incident occurred with approximately a minute left in Friday's game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green. Marble Falls was trying to run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage, according to the Express-News. The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. John Jay lost 15-9. Marble Falls coach Matt Green said John Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized after the game. "I've coached 14 years and I've never seen anything like it," Green said. The referee was "very upset" and "wanting to press charges," Austin Football Officials Association secretary Wayne Elliott told The Associated Press. Elliott said he was seeking guidance from the state officials association, adding, "the first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again." He declined to release the referee's name. Edited September 6, 2015 by lerxt1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/department-of-corrections-parole-manager-on-leave-after-fight-caught-on-camera-at-mile-high-stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Fighting through dance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCrs63JeuM When all else fails, just slam the ref. ------------------------------- Texas school district investigates after players hit referee The Associated PressPOSTED: Sunday, September 6, 2015, 11:15 AM MARBLE FALLS, Texas (AP) - A San Antonio School district is investigating after a football player ran into the back of a referee watching a play and another player then dove into the official after he fell. Both players were ejected from the game. Northside Independent School District athletic director Stan Laing told the San Antonio Express-News that video of the incident was "very disturbing." Laing said the district is investigating what led up to the incident. The team from John Jay High School in San Antonio was playing Marble Falls High School in Marble Falls, located about 90 miles north of San Antonio. Before the referee was hit, two Jay players had been ejected on separate plays. The incident occurred with approximately a minute left in Friday's game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green. Marble Falls was trying to run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage, according to the Express-News. The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. John Jay lost 15-9. Marble Falls coach Matt Green said John Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized after the game. "I've coached 14 years and I've never seen anything like it," Green said. The referee was "very upset" and "wanting to press charges," Austin Football Officials Association secretary Wayne Elliott told The Associated Press. Elliott said he was seeking guidance from the state officials association, adding, "the first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again." He declined to release the referee's name. I need a call on this... are these kids that dumb? Did they think theyd get away with it? Make a point? Be someone's hero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingAllTheTime Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCrs63JeuM When all else fails, just slam the ref. ------------------------------- Texas school district investigates after players hit referee The Associated PressPOSTED: Sunday, September 6, 2015, 11:15 AM MARBLE FALLS, Texas (AP) - A San Antonio School district is investigating after a football player ran into the back of a referee watching a play and another player then dove into the official after he fell. Both players were ejected from the game. Northside Independent School District athletic director Stan Laing told the San Antonio Express-News that video of the incident was "very disturbing." Laing said the district is investigating what led up to the incident. The team from John Jay High School in San Antonio was playing Marble Falls High School in Marble Falls, located about 90 miles north of San Antonio. Before the referee was hit, two Jay players had been ejected on separate plays. The incident occurred with approximately a minute left in Friday's game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green. Marble Falls was trying to run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage, according to the Express-News. The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. John Jay lost 15-9. Marble Falls coach Matt Green said John Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized after the game. "I've coached 14 years and I've never seen anything like it," Green said. The referee was "very upset" and "wanting to press charges," Austin Football Officials Association secretary Wayne Elliott told The Associated Press. Elliott said he was seeking guidance from the state officials association, adding, "the first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again." He declined to release the referee's name. I need a call on this... are these kids that dumb? Did they think theyd get away with it? Make a point? Be someone's hero? My phone blew up when this happened. Once I saw the video, I kind of figured it would go national. I have no connections to this particular school or program, but I know lots of people connected to the culture of Friday Night Lights and know a few folks within the district. Here's what I can offer: * I spent 17 years in public education as a teacher, coach, and administrator - this is the single most egregious thing I have ever seen student athletes do toward a referee. I have seen lots of parents behave foolishly, even threatening violence. I have seen coaches lose their s*** and throw a tantrum. I have seen kids lose their s*** and get pulled off the field and benched. I have never seen students assault - and that is exactly what this is - a referee* It is *very* obvious those two kids did this purposefully - both players made a bee line for the referee without regard for the play and the district is essentially admitting it was somehow planned* The reaction from the other defensive players on the field, though, seems to suggest they were not aware of the "plan" - the linemen, in fact, seem to not even know it happened* The question is why did these two do it - were they coerced by a coach? did the ref say or do something significant to anger them and somehow illicit this response? or were they just mad about prior calls and ejections? None of those possibilities plays well, of course.* The article mentions two prior ejections, but it fails to mention that one of the ejections was their star player (a quarterback playing both directions in the game and removed after a defensive play) who is being recruited by TCU, Baylor, and aTm - so there's potentially some key emotion (or baggage?)* The head coach of the program, by the way, is in his third season at the school and not a long tenured coach. There is nothing I know of in his background that suggests he runs a rogue program, but my understanding is this campus struggles to keep staff and coaches. It is a very urban campus with all the same issues you would expect to see on an urban campus - including staff turnover. We could, then, be looking at a situation in which you have a collection of fairly novice coaches lacking in a skill set needed to develop athletic discipline. I am not saying that is what happened, but I am suggesting it is possible.* The district/school has removed the two players from the team (their numbers aren't even showing up on the team roster at this point - but also likely to hide their names as they are juveniles). They have also suspended them from school pending what they specifically called a "due process" hearing. That implies they are investigating this as an assault and could, depending upon the level of assault determined, have significant disciplinary implications (the second player who essentially speared the ref is in an especially precarious position has he lead with his head/helmet while the referee was on the ground and nowhere near the ball). It is important to note that school law/discipline does not require a threshold of reasonable doubt. The threshold is propensity, which is pretty much confirmed with the video.* There are four different venues of action/discipline these students will likely face.... 1) The campus/district athletic program. Students do *not* have a legal or property entitlement to participate in extra-curriculars. If these were my students, they would be done with extra-curricular sports, maybe all programs, at my campus for life. Granted, the district officials will weigh in, but barring an unbelievable level of remorse from these kids, I imagine they have played their last anything for the school or district.2) Similarly, the University Interscholastic League (UIL), a division of the University of Texas which oversees public school athletics in Texas, could have their own due process hearing. The result of that process could/will likely be an extension of the campus/district ban at all levels across the state (leaving them only the option to play in private/TAPPS or another state). The really interesting thing about the UIL is their charter explicitly states that none of their decisions establish precedent and the fact of the matter is the state legislature has given the UIL tremendous latitude in addressing pretty much everything. UIL is, put simply, one of the most powerful bodies in the state. If they want to ban these kids statewide, they very likely can (and I suspect will). Realistically, they don't need to do it as all districts essentially have a handshake agreement on these kinds of things, but I would be willing to bet they do it for the intent of message.3) What's more, the kids will likely be sent to an alternative disciplinary campus as part of the incident (the earlier reference to due process). They could even be expelled (depending upon the level of assault the campus/district asserts) for a period of one year, which given the campus/district is in a county that meets the population threshold would result in their placement in a Juvenile Justice Alternative Education Program (JJAEP). I do think, though, that level of assault is a stretch and the JJAEP move would be discretionary rather than mandatory (which impacts overall campus/district reporting figures and ratings), so the district will stick to a lower level of assault and send them to a district alternative setting.4) Finally, yes, criminal court is a possibility - and that creates all sorts of other layers in #3. If the district does go for a discretionary JJAEP placement, criminal court is going to happen as a function of the placement. However, if the referee presses charges, it will end up in a criminal court..... and then it gets really interesting because..... if the prosecutor determines they are going to charge the students with felony, rather than misdemeanor, assault the threshold for JJAEP placement automatically moves from discretionary to mandatory because, in Texas, if a student is facing (not actually convicted, but merely charged with) a title felony they are immediately eligible for a mandatory JJAEP placement.* What happens to the coaches depends upon what is found out in the discovery process. If any coach told a player to do this... they are done, done, done. If the district determines the coaches have a lack of program control, they are equally done. UIL could also step in because, again, they get to do pretty much whatever they want... they are the SCOTUS of Texas. However, even with their ridiculous power, UIL tends to operate with a level head. NISD also has a reputation for taking care of their business. I would imagine UIL will leave any personnel action at the NISD HR level.* I am not so sure the refs walk away from this unscathed, as well. If we find out the other team was doing/saying things that weren't addressed, I can see this thing going south for the refs, too. The chatter would be nowhere near the level of trouble the players, or even the coaches, will face. But really, if it is found out these refs let some things go they shouldn't have, I imagine they end up on a lot of schools' strike lists. Nobody wins here. It's a clusterf*** of epic proportions. I feel bad for the administrators at Jay and NISD. This isn't going to be pretty. Edited September 8, 2015 by WorkingAllTheTime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lerxt1990 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCrs63JeuM When all else fails, just slam the ref. ------------------------------- Texas school district investigates after players hit referee The Associated PressPOSTED: Sunday, September 6, 2015, 11:15 AM MARBLE FALLS, Texas (AP) - A San Antonio School district is investigating after a football player ran into the back of a referee watching a play and another player then dove into the official after he fell. Both players were ejected from the game. Northside Independent School District athletic director Stan Laing told the San Antonio Express-News that video of the incident was "very disturbing." Laing said the district is investigating what led up to the incident. The team from John Jay High School in San Antonio was playing Marble Falls High School in Marble Falls, located about 90 miles north of San Antonio. Before the referee was hit, two Jay players had been ejected on separate plays. The incident occurred with approximately a minute left in Friday's game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green. Marble Falls was trying to run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage, according to the Express-News. The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. John Jay lost 15-9. Marble Falls coach Matt Green said John Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized after the game. "I've coached 14 years and I've never seen anything like it," Green said. The referee was "very upset" and "wanting to press charges," Austin Football Officials Association secretary Wayne Elliott told The Associated Press. Elliott said he was seeking guidance from the state officials association, adding, "the first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again." He declined to release the referee's name. I need a call on this... are these kids that dumb? Did they think theyd get away with it? Make a point? Be someone's hero? My phone blew up when this happened. Once I saw the video, I kind of figured it would go national. I have no connections to this particular school or program, but I know lots of people connected to the culture of Friday Night Lights and know a few folks within the district. Here's what I can offer: * I spent 17 years in public education as a teacher, coach, and administrator - this is the single most egregious thing I have ever seen student athletes do toward a referee. I have seen lots of parents behave foolishly, even threatening violence. I have seen coaches lose their s*** and throw a tantrum. I have seen kids lose their s*** and get pulled off the field and benched. I have never seen students assault - and that is exactly what this is - a referee* It is *very* obvious those two kids did this purposefully - both players made a bee line for the referee without regard for the play and the district is essentially admitting it was somehow planned* The reaction from the other defensive players on the field, though, seems to suggest they were not aware of the "plan" - the linemen, in fact, seem to not even know it happened* The question is why did these two do it - were they coerced by a coach? did the ref say or do something significant to anger them and somehow illicit this response? or were they just mad about prior calls and ejections? None of those possibilities plays well, of course.* The article mentions two prior ejections, but it fails to mention that one of the ejections was their star player (a quarterback playing both directions in the game and removed after a defensive play) who is being recruited by TCU, Baylor, and aTm - so there's potentially some key emotion (or baggage?)* The head coach of the program, by the way, is in his third season at the school and not a long tenured coach. There is nothing I know of in his background that suggests he runs a rogue program, but my understanding is this campus struggles to keep staff and coaches. It is a very urban campus with all the same issues you would expect to see on an urban campus - including staff turnover. We could, then, be looking at a situation in which you have a collection of fairly novice coaches lacking in a skill set needed to develop athletic discipline. I am not saying that is what happened, but I am suggesting it is possible.* The district/school has removed the two players from the team (their numbers aren't even showing up on the team roster at this point - but also likely to hide their names as they are juveniles). They have also suspended them from school pending what they specifically called a "due process" hearing. That implies they are investigating this as an assault and could, depending upon the level of assault determined, have significant disciplinary implications (the second player who essentially speared the ref is in an especially precarious position has he lead with his head/helmet while the referee was on the ground and nowhere near the ball). It is important to note that school law/discipline does not require a threshold of reasonable doubt. The threshold is propensity, which is pretty much confirmed with the video.* There are four different venues of action/discipline these students will likely face.... 1) The campus/district athletic program. Students do *not* have a legal or property entitlement to participate in extra-curriculars. If these were my students, they would be done with extra-curricular sports, maybe all programs, at my campus for life. Granted, the district officials will weigh in, but barring an unbelievable level of remorse from these kids, I imagine they have played their last anything for the school or district.2) Similarly, the University Interscholastic League (UIL), a division of the University of Texas which oversees public school athletics in Texas, could have their own due process hearing. The result of that process could/will likely be an extension of the campus/district ban at all levels across the state (leaving them only the option to play in private/TAPPS or another state). The really interesting thing about the UIL is their charter explicitly states that none of their decisions establish precedent and the fact of the matter is the state legislature has given the UIL tremendous latitude in addressing pretty much everything. UIL is, put simply, one of the most powerful bodies in the state. If they want to ban these kids statewide, they very likely can (and I suspect will). Realistically, they don't need to do it as all districts essentially have a handshake agreement on these kinds of things, but I would be willing to bet they do it for the intent of message.3) What's more, the kids will likely be sent to an alternative disciplinary campus as part of the incident (the earlier reference to due process). They could even be expelled (depending upon the level of assault the campus/district asserts) for a period of one year, which given the campus/district is in a county that meets the population threshold would result in their placement in a Juvenile Justice Alternative Education Program (JJAEP). I do think, though, that level of assault is a stretch and the JJAEP move would be discretionary rather than mandatory (which impacts overall campus/district reporting figures and ratings), so the district will stick to a lower level of assault and send them to a district alternative setting.4) Finally, yes, criminal court is a possibility - and that creates all sorts of other layers in #3. If the district does go for a discretionary JJAEP placement, criminal court is going to happen as a function of the placement. However, if the referee presses charges, it will end up in a criminal court..... and then it gets really interesting because..... if the prosecutor determines they are going to charge the students with felony, rather than misdemeanor, assault the threshold for JJAEP placement automatically moves from discretionary to mandatory because, in Texas, if a student is facing (not actually convicted, but merely charged with) a title felony they are immediately eligible for a mandatory JJAEP placement.* What happens to the coaches depends upon what is found out in the discovery process. If any coach told a player to do this... they are done, done, done. If the district determines the coaches have a lack of program control, they are equally done. UIL could also step in because, again, they get to do pretty much whatever they want... they are the SCOTUS of Texas. However, even with their ridiculous power, UIL tends to operate with a level head. NISD also has a reputation for taking care of their business. I would imagine UIL will leave any personnel action at the NISD HR level.* I am not so sure the refs walk away from this unscathed, as well. If we find out the other team was doing/saying things that weren't addressed, I can see this thing going south for the refs, too. The chatter would be nowhere near the level of trouble the players, or even the coaches, will face. But really, if it is found out these refs let some things go they shouldn't have, I imagine they end up on a lot of schools' strike lists. Nobody wins here. It's a clusterf*** of epic proportions. I feel bad for the administrators at Jay and NISD. This isn't going to be pretty. WOW - thanks for that, that's interesting. I'm thinking they are very lucky that ref got up and wasn't seriously injured hitting him in the back that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingAllTheTime Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCrs63JeuM When all else fails, just slam the ref. ------------------------------- Texas school district investigates after players hit referee The Associated PressPOSTED: Sunday, September 6, 2015, 11:15 AM MARBLE FALLS, Texas (AP) - A San Antonio School district is investigating after a football player ran into the back of a referee watching a play and another player then dove into the official after he fell. Both players were ejected from the game. Northside Independent School District athletic director Stan Laing told the San Antonio Express-News that video of the incident was "very disturbing." Laing said the district is investigating what led up to the incident. The team from John Jay High School in San Antonio was playing Marble Falls High School in Marble Falls, located about 90 miles north of San Antonio. Before the referee was hit, two Jay players had been ejected on separate plays. The incident occurred with approximately a minute left in Friday's game, according to Marble Falls coach Matt Green. Marble Falls was trying to run out the clock and called for a handoff toward the left side of the line of scrimmage, according to the Express-News. The penalties stemming from the incident gave Marble Falls a first down. John Jay lost 15-9. Marble Falls coach Matt Green said John Jay coach Gary Gutierrez apologized after the game. "I've coached 14 years and I've never seen anything like it," Green said. The referee was "very upset" and "wanting to press charges," Austin Football Officials Association secretary Wayne Elliott told The Associated Press. Elliott said he was seeking guidance from the state officials association, adding, "the first thing we want is that those two kids never play football again." He declined to release the referee's name. I need a call on this... are these kids that dumb? Did they think theyd get away with it? Make a point? Be someone's hero? My phone blew up when this happened. Once I saw the video, I kind of figured it would go national. I have no connections to this particular school or program, but I know lots of people connected to the culture of Friday Night Lights and know a few folks within the district. Here's what I can offer: * I spent 17 years in public education as a teacher, coach, and administrator - this is the single most egregious thing I have ever seen student athletes do toward a referee. I have seen lots of parents behave foolishly, even threatening violence. I have seen coaches lose their s*** and throw a tantrum. I have seen kids lose their s*** and get pulled off the field and benched. I have never seen students assault - and that is exactly what this is - a referee* It is *very* obvious those two kids did this purposefully - both players made a bee line for the referee without regard for the play and the district is essentially admitting it was somehow planned* The reaction from the other defensive players on the field, though, seems to suggest they were not aware of the "plan" - the linemen, in fact, seem to not even know it happened* The question is why did these two do it - were they coerced by a coach? did the ref say or do something significant to anger them and somehow illicit this response? or were they just mad about prior calls and ejections? None of those possibilities plays well, of course.* The article mentions two prior ejections, but it fails to mention that one of the ejections was their star player (a quarterback playing both directions in the game and removed after a defensive play) who is being recruited by TCU, Baylor, and aTm - so there's potentially some key emotion (or baggage?)* The head coach of the program, by the way, is in his third season at the school and not a long tenured coach. There is nothing I know of in his background that suggests he runs a rogue program, but my understanding is this campus struggles to keep staff and coaches. It is a very urban campus with all the same issues you would expect to see on an urban campus - including staff turnover. We could, then, be looking at a situation in which you have a collection of fairly novice coaches lacking in a skill set needed to develop athletic discipline. I am not saying that is what happened, but I am suggesting it is possible.* The district/school has removed the two players from the team (their numbers aren't even showing up on the team roster at this point - but also likely to hide their names as they are juveniles). They have also suspended them from school pending what they specifically called a "due process" hearing. That implies they are investigating this as an assault and could, depending upon the level of assault determined, have significant disciplinary implications (the second player who essentially speared the ref is in an especially precarious position has he lead with his head/helmet while the referee was on the ground and nowhere near the ball). It is important to note that school law/discipline does not require a threshold of reasonable doubt. The threshold is propensity, which is pretty much confirmed with the video.* There are four different venues of action/discipline these students will likely face.... 1) The campus/district athletic program. Students do *not* have a legal or property entitlement to participate in extra-curriculars. If these were my students, they would be done with extra-curricular sports, maybe all programs, at my campus for life. Granted, the district officials will weigh in, but barring an unbelievable level of remorse from these kids, I imagine they have played their last anything for the school or district.2) Similarly, the University Interscholastic League (UIL), a division of the University of Texas which oversees public school athletics in Texas, could have their own due process hearing. The result of that process could/will likely be an extension of the campus/district ban at all levels across the state (leaving them only the option to play in private/TAPPS or another state). The really interesting thing about the UIL is their charter explicitly states that none of their decisions establish precedent and the fact of the matter is the state legislature has given the UIL tremendous latitude in addressing pretty much everything. UIL is, put simply, one of the most powerful bodies in the state. If they want to ban these kids statewide, they very likely can (and I suspect will). Realistically, they don't need to do it as all districts essentially have a handshake agreement on these kinds of things, but I would be willing to bet they do it for the intent of message.3) What's more, the kids will likely be sent to an alternative disciplinary campus as part of the incident (the earlier reference to due process). They could even be expelled (depending upon the level of assault the campus/district asserts) for a period of one year, which given the campus/district is in a county that meets the population threshold would result in their placement in a Juvenile Justice Alternative Education Program (JJAEP). I do think, though, that level of assault is a stretch and the JJAEP move would be discretionary rather than mandatory (which impacts overall campus/district reporting figures and ratings), so the district will stick to a lower level of assault and send them to a district alternative setting.4) Finally, yes, criminal court is a possibility - and that creates all sorts of other layers in #3. If the district does go for a discretionary JJAEP placement, criminal court is going to happen as a function of the placement. However, if the referee presses charges, it will end up in a criminal court..... and then it gets really interesting because..... if the prosecutor determines they are going to charge the students with felony, rather than misdemeanor, assault the threshold for JJAEP placement automatically moves from discretionary to mandatory because, in Texas, if a student is facing (not actually convicted, but merely charged with) a title felony they are immediately eligible for a mandatory JJAEP placement.* What happens to the coaches depends upon what is found out in the discovery process. If any coach told a player to do this... they are done, done, done. If the district determines the coaches have a lack of program control, they are equally done. UIL could also step in because, again, they get to do pretty much whatever they want... they are the SCOTUS of Texas. However, even with their ridiculous power, UIL tends to operate with a level head. NISD also has a reputation for taking care of their business. I would imagine UIL will leave any personnel action at the NISD HR level.* I am not so sure the refs walk away from this unscathed, as well. If we find out the other team was doing/saying things that weren't addressed, I can see this thing going south for the refs, too. The chatter would be nowhere near the level of trouble the players, or even the coaches, will face. But really, if it is found out these refs let some things go they shouldn't have, I imagine they end up on a lot of schools' strike lists. Nobody wins here. It's a clusterf*** of epic proportions. I feel bad for the administrators at Jay and NISD. This isn't going to be pretty. WOW - thanks for that, that's interesting. I'm thinking they are very lucky that ref got up and wasn't seriously injured hitting him in the back that way. Indeed. They are very lucky he walked away. And, yet, still, it's very complicated. ESPN will move on in a couple of days, but this will take months to sort out. It might take years if the lawyers get involved (most major school law cases are resolved long after the student has graduated). No worries, though, the next season of "Law & Order" will boil it down to a 60 minute episode (including commercial time) and everyone in America will be an expert in school and extra-curricular law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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