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QUOTE (Faithless @ May 25 2007, 04:37 PM)
QUOTE (lonelymoon @ May 25 2007, 03:17 PM)
damn. that's a long way to go yet.  we better get out and buy two extra copies each for stocking stuffers this xmas, folks.

That's right, because everyone knows that the more copies an album sells, the better it is.

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Well, remember that this is the age of illegal downloading and cd burning and whatnot. 300,000 sold nowadays is pretty much the equivilant of 500,000 sold in the early 90s.
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Great sales for a CD that is new, should hit Gold easily enough especially once the tour starts in a couple weeks. In fact, I believe only The Stones and The Beatles have more Gold discs than Rush does.

 

I was pleasantly surprised how well their videos have done; obviously, the band is still a marketing tsunami even at this stage in their career.

 

With the advent of illegal (and legal) music downloads, it's a tougher feat to achieve high sales. Their tours have always done exceptionally well and is their "bread and butter", to pay for their lifestyles. Just like everyone else, the boys have to work for a living. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Superbaldguy @ May 30 2007, 02:34 AM)
Great sales for a CD that is new, should hit Gold easily enough especially once the tour starts in a couple weeks.

Interesting prediction, considering it isn't selling as well as VT did after 4 weeks, and VT isn't close to selling gold even though it's been 5 years since the release.

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QUOTE (pedro2112 @ May 30 2007, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (Superbaldguy @ May 30 2007, 02:34 AM)
Great sales for a CD that is new, should hit Gold easily enough especially once the tour starts in a couple weeks.

Interesting prediction, considering it isn't selling as well as VT did after 4 weeks, and VT isn't close to selling gold even though it's been 5 years since the release.

Is this bad?

 

Or do we not care anymore about sales?

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QUOTE (treeduck @ May 30 2007, 12:29 PM)
QUOTE (pedro2112 @ May 30 2007, 01:12 PM)
QUOTE (Superbaldguy @ May 30 2007, 02:34 AM)
Great sales for a CD that is new, should hit Gold easily enough especially once the tour starts in a couple weeks.

Interesting prediction, considering it isn't selling as well as VT did after 4 weeks, and VT isn't close to selling gold even though it's been 5 years since the release.

Is this bad?

 

Or do we not care anymore about sales?

I don't care about sales. As long as they sell enough to make the band think it is worthwhile to make another CD. I was just trying to toss a bucket full of reality on Lifeson fan's delusional fantasy.

 

 

 

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QUOTE (thebernreuter @ May 25 2007, 05:59 PM)
QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ May 25 2007, 04:26 PM)
QUOTE (the invisible man @ May 25 2007, 03:34 PM)
Have most Rush albums gone gold ? or platinum ?

Haven't all gone at least Gold, except VT and now S&A?

That is correct, except I'm not sure about Rush in Rio the audio CD.

RiR's CD version went Gold in January of 2004 in the US.

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QUOTE (WickedYoungMan @ May 26 2007, 02:54 PM)
QUOTE (lonelymoon @ May 25 2007, 06:02 PM)
how much does the band earn per copy sold?

When it's said and done? I've heard maybe a dollar or two per CD, total. I also think that bands don't get that right off the bat, they still have to pay that off back to the record companies up until a certain amount before they start receiving royalty payments.

Unless you were Steve Miller. He earned $1.50 a record. When he signed with Capitol, he got complete control over everything he did and higher royalties than some of his labelmates, including The Beatles. Everytime he sold a million copies, he earned $1.5 million and for each additional million would be more money. Then add producer royalties and songwriting royalties and he earned a bit more on the side.

 

Rush also earn producer's royalties, songwriting royalties as they have worked on much of their albums themselves. Also, Pink Floyd earned extra from royalties and also the band has owned the copyright to their albums as of Wish You Were Here and the label only makes a percentage of what the band makes (same goes for David Gilmour, Nick Mason and Rick Wright's solo works). Add Genesis whose copyright to the albums has been Tony Banks Ltd/Phil Collins Ltd/Mike Rutherford Ltd since 1981. Those bands aren't stupid. Rush have had the Anthem imprint on all Atlantic albums since 1989.

 

The Who's Pete Townshend earned more than the rest of his Who mates as he wrote most of the material. The late John Entwistle would get some cash from songwriter's royalties. Also, for The Who albums Live at Leeds, Who's Next and Quadrophenia, the band would earn extra for producers royalties.

 

Only veteran band to have a Platinum album in last couple of years is The Rolling Stones' A Bigger Bang which was a great album. Just be grateful that Britney's last album (her remix album) didn't even go Gold as her sales went down with each new release because of OVEREXPOSURE!

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Thats good for chart position, but overall sales are going down. Their last platium album (1,000,000M+ sales) was RtB, and before that, Power Windows back to ATWAS were platinum. HYF through TFE were gold (500,000+ sales) except RtB which was Platinum. VT, after that long hiatus was 340,000, and S&A is at 150,000 thousand now, and will likely (my guess) do the same or lower than VT. By the way, MP was a quadruple multiplatinum album (4,000,000+). Of course these figures are only US, but you get the point, and the scale of difference between today and yesteryear...
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Absolutely no chance S & A goes Gold guys. Rush is a band that peaks early, because their fan base is hardcore and fairly large, but they dont get a lot of trickle down sales.

 

Truthfully, it's so hardto go Gold now because music is so accessible on the internet. I know so many people that download albums illegaly without spending the 15 bucks. Sad but true. This is why Vapor Trails hasn't and probably wont go Gold either.

 

What makes an album like Moving Pictures sell 4 million copies? The fact that you can turn on any Classic Rock or even regular Rock station and hear a Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Red Barchetta....new generations are hearing these songs and continuing to buy these albums. The way corporate radio is these days, you have the "Classic Rock format" that consists of anything pre 1984 and new rock stations that play new music by new bands. New albums by Rush are in No Man's Land. In the next few months, we'll never hear Far Cry or The larger Bowl on the radio again.

 

Ultimately, in 2008 and 2009 and onward Moving Pictures and 2112 will outsell S & A

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