The Who vs The Police - Who wins this battle?

[treeduck]

Who are you to make this poll?

I was making polls when you were swimming around in your dad's balls.

 

That's fuckking funny Duck. I just went through a Who and Police phase. You must have a camera in my house! Lol!!!

 

I love both bands!!!

 

I have to go with THE WHO!

 

Next to Neil Peart it's Pete Townshend for me. Wish I could meet Pete one day.

I thought it was Neil and Keith Richards that were your top 2 idols Earl.

 

NO!!!!

 

Not Keith at all!!!!!

 

It's Neil and Pete!!!

Is Keith number 3?

[RUSHHEAD666]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

[_hi_water._]

Who are you to make this poll?

I was making polls when you were swimming around in your dad's balls.

 

That's fuckking funny Duck. I just went through a Who and Police phase. You must have a camera in my house! Lol!!!

 

I love both bands!!!

 

I have to go with THE WHO!

 

Next to Neil Peart it's Pete Townshend for me. Wish I could meet Pete one day.

I thought it was Neil and Keith Richards that were your top 2 idols Earl.

 

NO!!!!

 

Not Keith at all!!!!!

 

It's Neil and Pete!!!

Is Keith number 3?

:LMAO:

[RUSHHEAD666]

Who are you to make this poll?

I was making polls when you were swimming around in your dad's balls.

 

That's fuckking funny Duck. I just went through a Who and Police phase. You must have a camera in my house! Lol!!!

 

I love both bands!!!

 

I have to go with THE WHO!

 

Next to Neil Peart it's Pete Townshend for me. Wish I could meet Pete one day.

I thought it was Neil and Keith Richards that were your top 2 idols Earl.

 

NO!!!!

 

Not Keith at all!!!!!

 

It's Neil and Pete!!!

Is Keith number 3?

:LMAO:

 

 

I have no idea how Keith even got the job to play drums in The Who.

 

Remember the rumors about Neil quitting RUSH to play drums in The Who?

[treeduck]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

[treeduck]

Who are you to make this poll?

I was making polls when you were swimming around in your dad's balls.

 

That's fuckking funny Duck. I just went through a Who and Police phase. You must have a camera in my house! Lol!!!

 

I love both bands!!!

 

I have to go with THE WHO!

 

Next to Neil Peart it's Pete Townshend for me. Wish I could meet Pete one day.

I thought it was Neil and Keith Richards that were your top 2 idols Earl.

 

NO!!!!

 

Not Keith at all!!!!!

 

It's Neil and Pete!!!

Is Keith number 3?

:LMAO:

 

 

I have no idea how Keith even got the job to play drums in The Who.

 

Remember the rumors about Neil quitting RUSH to play drums in The Who?

Can he play drums?

[RUSHHEAD666]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

[RUSHHEAD666]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

 

Dennis Chambers hell yes. BILL COBHAM! Gavin Harrison!!!

[treeduck]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

Come on Earl you don't respect Dennis Chambers? I challenge you to a drum-off vs Chambers. Can you hang with Big Dennis?

[treeduck]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

 

Dennis Chambers hell yes. BILL COBHAM! Gavin Harrison!!!

What about Steve Smith?

[treeduck]

Earl how do you like the drumming on this batch of tunes?

 

[Lorraine]

Any wedding bells yet, Earl?

[Lorraine]

Stewart Copeland is the strong point of The Police. My top three drummer of all time.

I do love him too, and I think he's a better drummer than Neil.

Edited September 16, 2020 by Lorraine

[chemistry1973]

I love the Who.

 

I love the Police.

 

 

I think the Who have more rock artillery behind them - bombast and heft, but with the capability to demonstrate a very sensitive aspect to their songwriting.

 

 

The Police have Sting - so very refined songcraft, and extremely tight arrangements. Live they're loose and super fun. But were they ever transcendent live? I think the Who most definitely were.

 

And let's be honest - Townshend is just more interesting a guitar player than Andy Summers, and more interesting a lyricist. Sting is fantastic, but does he ever really reveal anything about himself in his songwriting? Does he ever show or allow vulnerability? No.

 

Live, Andy tries really too hard - fluidity is not his strong suit - not within the rock paradigm anyway. Townshend performance level - to lock in with his drummer and band - to vibe off the moment - is at an A+ level. Sting ranks at a solid A. When I saw him with Peter Gabriel a few years ago he was utterly fantastic.

 

But the Police don't have a Baba O'Reilly in their set.

 

Edge goes to the 'oo.

 

I saw the Police on the Synchronicity tour and in 2007. They were "transcendent" both times. There's a completely different vibe to the bands, so I don't think you can use the same metric for them when talking about live performances. The best live show I've ever seen was Harry Connick, Jr. in a theater in 2000. Obviously, that was different than seeing Ozzy on the Diary tour. The Who have a few albums that aren't great, and a few songs on great albums that aren't up to par. The Police don't.

 

The metric for comparing bands is simple: which one do you enjoy more?

 

I think when EP mentions "rock artillery," Summers' playing "within the rock paradigm," and being "transcendent" live, you can infer what he's getting at. Anyways, it's still the Cops for me.

I definitely don't think Townshend is a more interesting guitarist than Summers. Not by a long shot.

 

Within rock and blues Townshend is masterful.

 

Summers is a brilliant musician - but he’s more of a jazz guy and an innovator. But he’s not an electrifying performer. Just isn’t.

We can agree to disagree.

I thought you two were the two metalheads on the forum, I'm shocked to see you discussing the skills of Mrs Summers little boy Andrew.

 

I’m a massive Police fan - and I love Andy’s solo work.

[RUSHHEAD666]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

Come on Earl you don't respect Dennis Chambers? I challenge you to a drum-off vs Chambers. Can you hang with Big Dennis?

 

Dennis is an incredible in the pocket funk drummer. He was in Parliament too. I love him. I saw Dennis at Yoshi's with Mike Stern.

 

Yes, I can hang with Dennis. He would win, but I can hold my own.

 

I can lay down the funk. I'm not just a Neil Peart clone.

 

I love playing to "Silk Degrees" by Box Scaggs. Jeff Pocaro. Another in the pocket drummer. Yes. I can "Lay It Down."

 

Signed,

 

Bobby Blotzer

[RUSHHEAD666]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

 

Dennis Chambers hell yes. BILL COBHAM! Gavin Harrison!!!

What about Steve Smith?

 

I like Steve Smith. There are many drummers better. He was solid in Journey but I prefer Dunbar.

 

I like the Steve Smith jazz stuff though. Vital Information. He's a great drummer.

 

I saw him in Journey a few summers ago. He looked like a stiff skeleton. DEEN BLOWS STEVE AWAY! JMO!!!!!!

[RUSHHEAD666]

Earl how do you like the drumming on this batch of tunes?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPT6CrYzN8M

 

Damn! Video BLOCKED!

[RUSHHEAD666]

Any wedding bells yet, Earl?

 

 

Hahahaha! Hi Lorraine!!!!

 

Lisa and I spent the weekend in Yountville. Napa wine country! The air quality was actually good this weekend.

It was one of the best weekends I have ever had.

I don't even like wine but we went to Chandon. RH VAULT. We had vodka tonics in the room which saved the day. Wine is yucky and it goes right to my Rushhead. LOL!

Lisa is the most incredible woman I have ever met in my life.

Love is in the air Lorraine.

It's mutual and yes, I hope to marry Lisa some day. On a beach.

 

Love you!

[RUSHHEAD666]

I love the Who.

 

I love the Police.

 

 

I think the Who have more rock artillery behind them - bombast and heft, but with the capability to demonstrate a very sensitive aspect to their songwriting.

 

 

The Police have Sting - so very refined songcraft, and extremely tight arrangements. Live they're loose and super fun. But were they ever transcendent live? I think the Who most definitely were.

 

And let's be honest - Townshend is just more interesting a guitar player than Andy Summers, and more interesting a lyricist. Sting is fantastic, but does he ever really reveal anything about himself in his songwriting? Does he ever show or allow vulnerability? No.

 

Live, Andy tries really too hard - fluidity is not his strong suit - not within the rock paradigm anyway. Townshend performance level - to lock in with his drummer and band - to vibe off the moment - is at an A+ level. Sting ranks at a solid A. When I saw him with Peter Gabriel a few years ago he was utterly fantastic.

 

But the Police don't have a Baba O'Reilly in their set.

 

Edge goes to the 'oo.

 

I saw the Police on the Synchronicity tour and in 2007. They were "transcendent" both times. There's a completely different vibe to the bands, so I don't think you can use the same metric for them when talking about live performances. The best live show I've ever seen was Harry Connick, Jr. in a theater in 2000. Obviously, that was different than seeing Ozzy on the Diary tour. The Who have a few albums that aren't great, and a few songs on great albums that aren't up to par. The Police don't.

 

The metric for comparing bands is simple: which one do you enjoy more?

 

I think when EP mentions "rock artillery," Summers' playing "within the rock paradigm," and being "transcendent" live, you can infer what he's getting at. Anyways, it's still the Cops for me.

I definitely don't think Townshend is a more interesting guitarist than Summers. Not by a long shot.

 

Within rock and blues Townshend is masterful.

 

Summers is a brilliant musician - but he’s more of a jazz guy and an innovator. But he’s not an electrifying performer. Just isn’t.

We can agree to disagree.

I thought you two were the two metalheads on the forum, I'm shocked to see you discussing the skills of Mrs Summers little boy Andrew.

 

I’m a massive Police fan - and I love Andy’s solo work.

 

I hear you.....

 

I love KLERK KANT! Stewie's solo record. I have the Japan CD pressing. Very rare. I listen to it a lot.

 

The Summers solo stuff is solid. I have it all.

I only love the first two STING solo albums.

 

STING is overrated. He's really good but he's just a fuckking big hot air balloon that needs to be popped!!!

[RUSHHEAD666]

Pete Townshend BLOWS STINK away.

[Lorraine]

Any wedding bells yet, Earl?

 

 

Hahahaha! Hi Lorraine!!!!

 

Lisa and I spent the weekend in Yountville. Napa wine country! The air quality was actually good this weekend.

It was one of the best weekends I have ever had.

I don't even like wine but we went to Chandon. RH VAULT. We had vodka tonics in the room which saved the day. Wine is yucky and it goes right to my Rushhead. LOL!

Lisa is the most incredible woman I have ever met in my life.

Love is in the air Lorraine.

It's mutual and yes, I hope to marry Lisa some day. On a beach.

 

Love you!

Don't forget to invite your Rush friends to the nuptials, Earl! :cheers:

[RUSHHEAD666]

Funny to note though Pat and I know you know this.

 

STINK was in "Quadraphenia." The movie.

 

Great flick.

[RUSHHEAD666]

Any wedding bells yet, Earl?

 

 

Hahahaha! Hi Lorraine!!!!

 

Lisa and I spent the weekend in Yountville. Napa wine country! The air quality was actually good this weekend.

It was one of the best weekends I have ever had.

I don't even like wine but we went to Chandon. RH VAULT. We had vodka tonics in the room which saved the day. Wine is yucky and it goes right to my Rushhead. LOL!

Lisa is the most incredible woman I have ever met in my life.

Love is in the air Lorraine.

It's mutual and yes, I hope to marry Lisa some day. On a beach.

 

Love you!

Don't forget to invite your Rush friends to the nuptials, Earl! :cheers:

 

 

Wow Lorraine! I have been checked out of serious relationships for many many moons! "Nuptials." There's a word you hear much about these days.

 

Yes!!!

 

There is no doubt I will hopefully be inviting many of my many Rush friends on here.

 

I just know it's tough. Financially. Logistically. Covid, Fires, timing.

 

But it's all good. This could happen a few years from now.

 

I am not going to "RUSH" into anything. LOL!

 

On a sidetone you know what drives me nuts?

Since I've been going out to dinner twice a week with Lisa. Outdoor dining of course.

 

The waiter or the waitress always says to us....

 

"Take your time there is no RUSH."

 

So always have to say.....

 

"Yeah, I know there is no RUSH, they retired in 2015!" Bums me out but it's life!! LOL!

[RUSHHEAD666]

Hey Pat!

 

Here's a question for YOU!

 

Who do you like better.....

 

STINK or STYNX?

 

LOL!!!!!!!!

 

I can't believe you don't like early STYX yet you love KANSAS so much!!!!!

[treeduck]

I've been very lucky. I've seen every drummer live in The Who except Keith Moon. I was too young. But I did see Kenny Jones on the "It's Hard" Tour. 1982. The Clash opened.

 

Saw The Who with Simon Phillips in the early 90's. My second favorite drummer. Then of course Ringo's kid 5 times.

Is Kenny Jones your number 2 Earl?

 

No buddy!!!!

 

Simon Phillips is 2!!!

Where's Weckl? And the master of polyrhythms Dennis Chambers? Chambers knows more than Simon could ever learn in 10,000 years of study!

 

You are hilarious Duck. You know my top four!!! It's easy.

 

NEIL PEART

SIMON PHILLIPS

STEWART COPELAND

DAVE WECKL

TIM ALEXANDER

Come on Earl you don't respect Dennis Chambers? I challenge you to a drum-off vs Chambers. Can you hang with Big Dennis?

 

Dennis is an incredible in the pocket funk drummer. He was in Parliament too. I love him. I saw Dennis at Yoshi's with Mike Stern.

 

Yes, I can hang with Dennis. He would win, but I can hold my own.

 

I can lay down the funk. I'm not just a Neil Peart clone.

 

I love playing to "Silk Degrees" by Box Scaggs. Jeff Pocaro. Another in the pocket drummer. Yes. I can "Lay It Down."

 

Signed,

 

Bobby Blotzer

What about GOD Earl, can you out-drum GOD??