sundog

Sorry, no - I'm the freak who paid for re-sale tix - for 4.

Well Done Librarian - I just dropped in to check if she had a thread! Kelli - I love you like mad All the best for the happiest of birthdays to you my sistah! :cheers: to some yummy craft beers together soon.

Great Pic!

Those are fantastic! Love Love Love!

Can we come visit you if they do? Absolutely :) :clap: Roadtrip! :sundog:

Can we come visit you if they do?

I can't even begin to imagine a life without them touring - that being said, it's hard to say goodbye to something (Someone) you love so much. These boys have been such a mainstay in my life (and many of yours) for so long that saying goodbye for what could be the last time, feels a little painful. I know that I'll be super excited to see them again live - as I have for the 20 some odd shows I've been to before, but for the last show - I foresee tears. This makes me sad. I wish them all good health ~ and thank them for their gift of music and showmanship through the years.

I don't get it either.

with that same restaurant in Bah Habah ;) It should be re- spelled this way, since THAT is how the East Coasters say it - it's always how it's pronounced in my head when I read it. I remember Slacka and DM having a whole conversation about it in Pag's back yard, verrrry late at night - DM asked Bah Habah? Where did the R's go? Did they leave them in Texas in the warsh? I still giggle about that today. :laughing yellow guy:

I'm not speaking to you right now, sir.

Iffin anyone wants to add me to Google+ my email overdare is sundogtrf@gmail.com Please tell me yer screen name so I know who you are and can follow you back!

:o :( :outtahere:

D'oh, double post.

So is it only a video call?

So is it only a video call?

Digital Man

barney_rebel

If you wait until the 14th to see them in Chicago, you'll be 2 days late - and you're going to miss the Detroit show too, since THAT is where they play on the 14th.

Happy Anniversary Kiddo!

Is there someone at home willing to get them and meet you half way? Worth paying for their gas & time IMO.

I find this very sad. I cannot even fathom the love and strength it must take to go through something like this with and for someone you love. God bless you is all I got... :sigh: What I am finding most difficult is knowing my kids don't know the woman she was. I feel like they were robbed of her as a grandma ~ they have lots of other grandparents to make up for her "absence" but they still will never know my Mom. That's really sad because their memory of her will be a negative one This is a very presumptive statement. Quite the contrary. I make sure to surround them with pictures of when they were with her. They are hanging in our home. I have sheltered them from the degradation her body and mind are going through, but I have never sheltered them from her existence or stories of her as I remember them. They understand the situation as best they can and we celebrate her lessons. We also talk about extended family and how blessed they are to have so many grandparents that love and adore them. As I said earlier in this thread - I love you's are extremely important in our world. We continue to foster that atmosphere so they know as they grow and test their independence, there is love and safety at home. I'm not trying to be negative but If you are sheltering them then it's not a true remembrance of her. I understand why you would do that and it's good that you school them on life lessons etc. I had the same experience with one of my grandfathers growing up and even though my parents tried to hide it from me I always had a fear of him. How about, you raise your children your way, and I'll raise mine my way and we don't judge. I'm so sorry to hear about your mom, Sunny. ((Hugs)) to you! The same thing happened with my mother in law, she was diagnosed with early onset dementia a while ago, eventually had to go to a nursing home and then eventually passed away. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy! Your visits with her sound wonderful. We used to do the same with my MIL, try to talk with her or bring lotion for her hands. The part about kids is hard. It's nice that you keep photos around and tell stories about her, that is something they will always have. Those are basically the memories my youngest daughter has of this grandmother because she was so young when PJ became ill. When she went in the nursing home the kids were older elementary school age so they would come along for some visits; it was their choice; I don't think it's a good environment for younger children because of the people talking to themselves and such. The nursing home had a therapy dog which they loved so they pretty much felt it was a positive experience. We kind of felt it was part of family life for them to see that we care for each other, but interestingly enough my brother in law thought the exact opposite and never brought his kids, thought that it was awful; which was his right as well. It can be very difficult, right? I am not looking for pity, or understanding but I appreciate that there are some who understand my experiences. Thank you. She is in a lovely home - but some of the people can't be held accountable for their behaviours, some of which are very unsavory. I have been ogled, and cat-called and applauded just for walking by. The nursing staff can only do so much. These are some of the reasons I wouldn't bring my children when they were younger.

If you would further like to make your point, perhaps a PM would be better as we have hijacked a lovely thread, long enough.

I find this very sad. I cannot even fathom the love and strength it must take to go through something like this with and for someone you love. God bless you is all I got... :sigh: What I am finding most difficult is knowing my kids don't know the woman she was. I feel like they were robbed of her as a grandma ~ they have lots of other grandparents to make up for her "absence" but they still will never know my Mom. That's really sad because their memory of her will be a negative one This is a very presumptive statement. Quite the contrary. I make sure to surround them with pictures of when they were with her. They are hanging in our home. I have sheltered them from the degradation her body and mind are going through, but I have never sheltered them from her existence or stories of her as I remember them. They understand the situation as best they can and we celebrate her lessons. We also talk about extended family and how blessed they are to have so many grandparents that love and adore them. As I said earlier in this thread - I love you's are extremely important in our world. We continue to foster that atmosphere so they know as they grow and test their independence, there is love and safety at home. I'm not trying to be negative but If you are sheltering them then it's not a true remembrance of her. I understand why you would do that and it's good that you school them on life lessons etc. I had the same experience with one of my grandfathers growing up and even though my parents tried to hide it from me I always had a fear of him. How about, you raise your children your way, and I'll raise mine my way and we don't judge. I wasn't judging. No reason to be defensive. You cannot make a blanket statement such as you have done, insinuating that my children will have negative memories of my mother and then hide behind a statement saying you aren't judging. I find your "no reason to be defensive" a rather passive aggressive statement as well. While you are entitled to your opinion, it holds little value to me. I was just sharing what had happened to me growing up and several of my friends. It tends to happen more often than not. I'm sensing a lot of anger from you and I can understand where that comes from as well. I was just trying to share. I'm sorry I touched a nerve. It's not an easy subject to talk about. You sense this? How so? You might sense something, but I think it's more about someone holding you accountable to your statement. You didn't share that this happened to you when you told me my children "WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE MEMORY OF HER" Where in that statement am I supposed to make that mental leap? "If you are sheltering them then it's not a true remembrance of her" Really? Hmmm - I'd like to understand why their memories aren't true? Even if they are memories of stories they've been told, how is this a problem? Your argument, as it was stated is weak. Your back-pedaled explanations mean nothing, to me. You might enjoy having public support of others - I am holding YOU and YOU ALONE accountable to your presumptive statements. I actually have an easy time talking about it.

I find this very sad. I cannot even fathom the love and strength it must take to go through something like this with and for someone you love. God bless you is all I got... :sigh: What I am finding most difficult is knowing my kids don't know the woman she was. I feel like they were robbed of her as a grandma ~ they have lots of other grandparents to make up for her "absence" but they still will never know my Mom. That's really sad because their memory of her will be a negative one This is a very presumptive statement. Quite the contrary. I make sure to surround them with pictures of when they were with her. They are hanging in our home. I have sheltered them from the degradation her body and mind are going through, but I have never sheltered them from her existence or stories of her as I remember them. They understand the situation as best they can and we celebrate her lessons. We also talk about extended family and how blessed they are to have so many grandparents that love and adore them. As I said earlier in this thread - I love you's are extremely important in our world. We continue to foster that atmosphere so they know as they grow and test their independence, there is love and safety at home. I'm not trying to be negative but If you are sheltering them then it's not a true remembrance of her. I understand why you would do that and it's good that you school them on life lessons etc. I had the same experience with one of my grandfathers growing up and even though my parents tried to hide it from me I always had a fear of him. How about, you raise your children your way, and I'll raise mine my way and we don't judge. I wasn't judging. No reason to be defensive. You cannot make a blanket statement such as you have done, insinuating that my children will have negative memories of my mother and then hide behind a statement saying you aren't judging. I find your "no reason to be defensive" a rather passive aggressive statement as well. While you are entitled to your opinion, it holds little value to me.

I find this very sad. I cannot even fathom the love and strength it must take to go through something like this with and for someone you love. God bless you is all I got... :sigh: What I am finding most difficult is knowing my kids don't know the woman she was. I feel like they were robbed of her as a grandma ~ they have lots of other grandparents to make up for her "absence" but they still will never know my Mom. That's really sad because their memory of her will be a negative one This is a very presumptive statement. Quite the contrary. I make sure to surround them with pictures of when they were with her. They are hanging in our home. I have sheltered them from the degradation her body and mind are going through, but I have never sheltered them from her existence or stories of her as I remember them. They understand the situation as best they can and we celebrate her lessons. We also talk about extended family and how blessed they are to have so many grandparents that love and adore them. As I said earlier in this thread - I love you's are extremely important in our world. We continue to foster that atmosphere so they know as they grow and test their independence, there is love and safety at home. I'm not trying to be negative but If you are sheltering them then it's not a true remembrance of her. I understand why you would do that and it's good that you school them on life lessons etc. I had the same experience with one of my grandfathers growing up and even though my parents tried to hide it from me I always had a fear of him. How about, you raise your children your way, and I'll raise mine my way and we don't judge.