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I think they should pull a fast one and not play 2112 at all. Then again, they did it on the first S&A tour, and that setlist felt pretty weird without it

They seem pretty adamant that they're looking into bringing older stuff back. Which I honestly don't think they've ever done. They've said one or two older songs, but not as much as they're supposedly saying this time. CwA Caravan BU2B Clockwork Angels The Anarchist Carnies Headlong Flight The Wreckers The Garden Older songs Prime Mover Nobody's Hero Manhattan Project Losing It Bravado Countdown Mission (even though they just played it) I honestly think "Losing It" and "Countdown" will be the furthest back they'll go, with the exception of the usual songs.

This is my setlist 1.2 to take into account what I want to happen with the orchestra First Set (w/Orchestra) Clockwork Angels* Countdown Prime Mover Mission Losing It The Anarchist* Wish them Well* The Wreckers* Nobody's Hero Marathon The Garden* Second Set (No Orchestra) Caravan* BU2B* Seven Cities of Gold* Headlong Flight* Subdivisions Earthshine Secret Touch Malignant Narcissism -Drum Solo- Resist Halo Effect (acoustic)* 2112 Tom Sawyer YYZ The Spirit of Radio ---------------------------------- Far Cry La Villa Strangiato Limelight *= new CwA song

Are there venues that can support them?

Posted this elsewhere: I think they'll be on a two level riser behind Geddy, close to the side of the stage, so when they aren't needed to perform, they can sneak off. I do think that to make it fair for the performers, they'll split it up. One set they'll use the strings, then the other set of the night they won't. That way they don't have to sit on stage all night long, when they're only needed for a few songs.

QUOTE (Kelly D @ Jun 23 2012, 09:15 AM) QUOTE (losingit2k @ Jun 19 2012, 10:31 PM) That would be pretty cool. Hopefully the lighting will just make them totally obscured when they are not playing. I hope that they have a multi level stage for the first time. Have Geddy and Alex on risers along with Neil on a higher riser so that the string Section is in a pit in the center! Just as long as front row is still front row and not pushed back I think it will be either that, or they will be on a small riser set up behind Geddy. I'd say behind Alex, but he has all his amps. They can afford to set people up behind Geddy cause he really won't be losing anything back there. I'm also convinced that when they're not playing, they won't be on stage. The riser would be near the side of the stage so they can just sneak off when they aren't needed

Or they could do what some groups do: Hire in from the local strings union in each city. That is much, much cheaper than actually taking 8 people out on the road.

OF COURSE I'll be checking the night of the first show. And this time they start on the East Coast so it actually works out! Not like 2010 where they were out West and behind 3 hours from here

QUOTE (Ron2112 @ Jun 16 2012, 11:32 AM) I don't think it's going to happen. For the sound dynamics to be right, Rush would have to turn way down. There's only so much you can amplify a string section before it starts to sound synthetic, and at that point, you might as well be using recorded samples in the first place. I saw the Moody Blues do this and it sucked. In order for the orchestra to sounds right, the band had to turn way down. so during the songs, the audience had to be stone quiet. Even slight talking was audible. Horrible, horrible show. You'd be surprised how much they actually wouldn't have to turn down. Ever heard of these guys? There's a drummer, two guitar players, a bass player, two keyboard players, AND they have an 8 piece ensemble on the side. The orchestra is actually very loud and very clearly there. Now imagine RUSH. Just 3 other guys on top of an 8 piece ensemble. They could play the same volume as they always have. It wouldn't make a difference

It seems that they're really adamant about bringing back old songs, that they've either never played or haven't played in a while. Good...maybe we won''t get the same songs again. Nobody's Hero is the very first song I think they should consider. Since it actually has strings in it. And anything from the Power Windows, Hold Your Fire era. A few songs I can think of are: Marathon (duh), Mystic Rhythms, Manhattan Project, Prime Mover, Mission. What I think they should do is this: First set with the orchestra. All the CwA songs and other songs they want to use the orchestra for. Second set without the orchestra. Your typical Rush rock show. All the heavy rock songs that definitely should not have an orchestra

Well apparently he let the cat out of the bag accidentally during the Jim Ladd interview last night. I think they're taking an awful big risk

I agree with OP. "Nobody's Hero" would be nice to hear live on this tour. Especially if this whole orchestra thing happens. It would fit.

Amazing. Really unbelievable. When it comes to the story, it's their best concept yet. I really enjoy it. Personally, I think the album sounds like Test for Echo meets Vapor Trails meets Snakes and Arrows. The intro to "The Wreckers" alone sounds like something that would come off Test for Echo. And "Halo Effect" sounds like something that would be off S&A. Favorites after the first spin: CwA, The Anarchist, Halo Effect, Seven Cities of Gold, The Garden. It's awesome top to bottom, but those are my favorites right off the bat.

I really like it lyrically, and I like the story that is told before the song. THe little blurb. As often, I feel like this song was written for me. Which is what makes Neil such a great lyricist. He's so relatable. He may be writing about something he experienced, but so many people can read it and go "wow, this happend to me!"

Far Cry Driven Subdivisions Prime Mover Freewill Headlong Flight* The Anarchist* Earthshine Bravado Half the World Marathon Limelight ------------------------ Caravan* BU2B* Clockwork Angels* Seven Cities of Gold* The Wreckers* Digital Man The Weapon Leave that Thing Alone Drum Solo/Alex Solo 2112 Tom Sawyer Spirit of Radio ------- Dreamline YYZ Working Man

I actually can see them placing a small string section (5-6 musicians max) on a riser behind Geddy, but only for the songs required. I don't think they'll have string players playing with them for "Limelight" or "Tom Sawyer". That would be suicide for them. But I personally feel that if they wanted to do an orchestra thing, do it in Toronto at Massey Hall with a real orchestra. Announce it ahead of time as a special one or two night thing, and sell tickets for that. Don't drag it on the road with you and make ALL your fans have to sit through it. Only make the people who want to pay to see it sit through it. If they really wanted to do the orchestra thing big time, save it for another solo album or something. Don't make it a Rush thing. Just don't let Alex make it "Victor II". That....I just don't know what I'd do if I saw that....

Reposting from one or two other threads: Far Cry Driven Subdivisions Prime Mover Freewill Headlong Flight* The Anarchist* Earthshine Bravado Half the World Marathon Limelight ------------------------ Caravan* BU2B* Clockwork Angels* Seven Cities of Gold* The Wreckers* Digital Man The Weapon Leave that Thing Alone Drum Solo/Alex Solo 2112 Tom Sawyer Spirit of Radio ------- Dreamline YYZ Working Man I actually would like to see them open the second set with the song "Clockwork Angels". I think it would make a great opening piece to get everyone back into it after the intermission. But I don't see it happening.

Now here's a thought....have they ever played the last song off an album on that albums tour? Cause I get the feeling based on the way they're talking about "The Garden" so much in interviews and press, that they're going to play it live. Maybe as the first song in the encore. I can picture that, since it will have a "finishing" type feel to the song.

I just can't bring myself to listen to it yet. It's a "thing" with me. Have to have the hard copy CD in my hands and in my CD player in my car to have my first listen to it on my way home from work Tuesday.

Just heard it on the Facebook page. I was blown away in the first minute. I was floored by what I was hearing. In my opinion, this song alone is the best thing they've done in the last 10 years, give or take maybe Far Cry and one or two other single songs. This one song, plus Headlong Flight, makes me think that this is going to be one of those rock albums where there isn't a single bad song on the album. All I have to say is, if this album comes out, and its generally considered amongst fans and critics as one of their best works ever...people who nit-pick at the album better have good reasons.

I deliberately sit on the floor every RUSH show, cause I know everyone around me will stand the whole show. Sitting in the lower or upper bowls, people sit. And I just refuse to sit. It's a ROCK CONCERT people, not a Broadway show. Stand up.

I get the feeling Prime Mover will be our surprise on this tour. Like Marathon was on the TM tour, or Mission on S&A. I get the feeling Neil's going to want to tie in the whole CwA theme with other music, as someone above posted. Prime Mover seems logical.

Posted this in another thread. Will repost here with a smal update: Far Cry Driven Subdivisions Prime Mover Freewill Headlong Flight* The Anarchist* Earthshine Bravado Half the World Marathon Limelight ------------------------ Caravan* BU2B* Clockwork Angels* Seven Cities of Gold* The Wreckers* Digital Man The Weapon Leave that Thing Alone Drum Solo/Alex Solo 2112 Tom Sawyer Spirit of Radio ------- Dreamline YYZ Working Man

Far Cry Driven Subdivisions Prime Mover Freewill Headlong Flight* The Anarchist* Earthshine Bravado Half the World Double Agent Limelight ------------------------ Caravan* BU2B* Clockwork Angels* Seven Cities of Gold* The Wreckers* Digital Man The Weapon Leave that Thing Alone Drum Solo/Alex Solo 2112 Tom Sawyer Spirit of Radio ------- Dreamline YYZ Working Man There's my prediction, with SEVEN new songs. That's all based on the way they've structured their setlist the last few tours. I'm basing it mostly off S&A and the way they handled the new material on that tour. I agree, we might get alot more new stuff than usual. But I'd say 6 or 7 tops. I don't see it likely ALL of CA will get played. Thats an hours worth of music. Too much. CA would have to be the entire first half of the show. But hey, if they're feeling up to it, I guess they'll do it if they feel they can.

Rush - In the Mood Fly By Night - Anthem Caress of Steel - The Fountain of Lamneth 2112 - Grande Finale A Farewell to Kings - Closer to the Heart Hemispheres - The Trees Permanent Waves - Natural Science Moving Pictures - Limelight Signals - Subdivisions Grace Under Pressure - Red Sector A Power Windows - Marathon/Manhattan Project Hold Your Fire - Prime Mover Presto - Presto Roll the Bones - Bravado Counterparts - Nobody's Hero Test for Echo - Half the World Vapor Trails - Earthshine/Secret Touch Snakes & Arrows - We Hold On Clockwork Angels - The Anarchist