EagleMoon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 For me signals was probably the last good album. I didn't like the direction they were moving after Moving Pictures, but the music was still really good. After signals it really didn't excite me any more and it still doesn't. So yes, I think Terry Brown had a huge influence on Rush's sound, even on the keyboard stuff. Once he was gone the band just stopped sounding like Rush, and they've never been able to recapture that. Exactly^ I believe they DID recapture that with Clockwork Angels, albeit in a style that was slightly modernized. CA has captivated me like nothing they've done since the very early 80s. I wonder what CA would have sounded like if Broon produced it? Well, a girl can dream, right? :)Cleaner and better would be my guess. Much better..... :) And hopefully the songs wouldn't have had so much filler in them. "You don't need to repeat the chorus so many times, guys. I think the fans are smart enough to get the gist of Wish Them Well."One of my least favorites on the album due to this. Geez. Its a weak song in my opinion.... But you don't understand! Even if you're going through hell you just keep on going! And that's what the song is doing... Not a fan of Wish Them Well, either. Not counting BU2B2, it's the only song on CA that I don't like. I just cringe every time I hear that wish them well backing vocal during the chorus. One of the main reasons I don't really care for that song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed. I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. I think this is funny. To me it sounds very obviously all Geddy. There are also ways to manipulate the vocal line during production, not that I think they did, but it's an easy thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 If I had only listened to my mother when she wanted me to go for piano lessons, but I insisted instead of going for dancing lessons, I'd know what you gentlemen are talking about. It's pretty much the same thing—just fingers dancing on a fretboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Maybe Geddy's really a woman after all. (Just teasing Geddy! :kisshug:) Edited June 27, 2014 by Lorraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. Hmm. Yeah, those are pretty high notes, but nothing higher than C, I think. In Tom Sawyer, he's singing an E (above that C) in the line "what you say about society" (just for some context). It may sound different, too, because that (Test for Echo) vocal is mixed together with a vocal that's an octave lower. The other thing about the song is that it's an alternate tuning guitar (I think it's in D, rather than E). Does anyone on the forum know if Alex's guitar on this song has every string tuned down a full tone? I'm pretty sure Al has each string tuned down one step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc That's just playing with the pitch on the vocal track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddy's Soul Patch Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. Sure sounds like Geddy to me. Sounds like he's just singing the high parts in falsetto. The liner notes don't list any additional vocalist. http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/rush/albums-testforecho.php I don't even think it's falsetto, I just think Ged's voice was starting to age a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 What's a "random patch from a sound pack"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 What's a "random patch from a sound pack"? I'm guessing just a sound effect from a keyboard. You can buy keyboards now that have cows mooing, ducks quacking, rapper dudes going "yo," women giggling (and a lot of them have the Tom Sawyer thing, too). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs.The sound. The bass tone in particular. The thinness if that's a word. Mission is a nice song..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 What's a "random patch from a sound pack"? I'm guessing just a sound effect from a keyboard. You can buy keyboards now that have cows mooing, ducks quacking, rapper dudes going "yo," women giggling (and a lot of them have the Tom Sawyer thing, too). Patches are what they load onto the keyboards to make all the sounds. You load a patch and a certain key will trigger the giggle... or a cow mooing.. or a jet plane taking off... or Homer Simpson going "D'OH!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaked Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs.The sound. The bass tone in particular. The thinness if that's a word. Mission is a nice song..... Geddy was using a Wal bass on that album which really gave him a much different tone. While I'm glad he dumped the Wal I can appreciate the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs.The sound. The bass tone in particular. The thinness if that's a word. Mission is a nice song..... Geddy was using a Wal bass on that album which really gave him a much different tone. While I'm glad he dumped the Wal I can appreciate the difference. I know he quit using the Wal basses because they stopped production etc. When I heard a year so ago that they had started production back up I thought oh no I hope he doesn't start using them again. They're really nice basses and play like a dream but they just don't fit the Rush sound, IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs.The sound. The bass tone in particular. The thinness if that's a word. Mission is a nice song..... Geddy was using a Wal bass on that album which really gave him a much different tone.While I'm glad he dumped the Wal I can appreciate the difference. I know he quit using the Wal basses because they stopped production etc. When I heard a year so ago that they had started production back up I thought oh no I hope he doesn't start using them again. They're really nice basses and play like a dream but they just don't fit the Rush sound, IMO.i just can't stand the sound. I have stretched and plucked rubber bands between my thumb and forefinger that sounded better. Just my poor taste I guess since most seem to enjoy that sound.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleMoon Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs.The sound. The bass tone in particular. The thinness if that's a word. Mission is a nice song..... Geddy was using a Wal bass on that album which really gave him a much different tone.While I'm glad he dumped the Wal I can appreciate the difference. I know he quit using the Wal basses because they stopped production etc. When I heard a year so ago that they had started production back up I thought oh no I hope he doesn't start using them again. They're really nice basses and play like a dream but they just don't fit the Rush sound, IMO.i just can't stand the sound. I have stretched and plucked rubber bands between my thumb and forefinger that sounded better. Just my poor taste I guess since most seem to enjoy that sound.... I'm not sure about "most". I agree about the bass tone sounding rubbery. Good description. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 I just listened to four of their seventies albums and went straight to 1996 Test For Echo (I still don't think that is Geddy's voice singing background). And I have to say that I am glad they got out of the seventies. That music was what we used to call "heavy" and it was perfect for its time. They had to move on. If they hadn't, they wouldn't be around today. And that they could move ahead musically without harming their popularity just goes to show how talented they are. Just my opinion. Sorry Lorraine, that is Geddy in the background! Are you absolutely positive? It doesn't even sound like him. It sounds like a woman. Who is that woman that sang on one of Rush's song background? Are you certain it isn't her doing that harmony? Aimee Mann did backup vocals on TSS, but it ain't her this time. Nope, that's pure Ged Man. It does sound a bit like a woman though That's a pretty high pitch. What part are you talking about? The "video vertigo" bit later in the song? I edited my comment that you quoted to include this: Just so we know we are talking about the same part of the song, it is when he sings "what a show - vertigo - video vertigo - test for echo - touch and go in slow mo" at about 2:40 and then it is at the end of the song too. On T4E it's all Geddy.. guaranteed.I met Peter Collins at the Nashville show last year and talked to him a lot about the albums he produced (T4E is one of them) and asked specifically about guest vocalists. The ONLY spot on any of the records he produced that has vocals other than Geddy is TSS. Hmmm...I assumed the female-sounding voice in Force 10 & Tai Shan was Aimee Mann as well. Nope, I asked about Force 10 specifically and he said absolutely not. The giggle is a random patch from a sound pack Andy Richards had on his keyboard... and the rest is Geddy. He made it perfectly clear that other than TSS there were no guest vocalists.Interesting. I'd love to know how they got "rising and falling" at the 2:43 mark to sound so much like a female.http://youtu.be/ZCn7DyDCLyc Sounds like they're running his voice through a phase/octaver.I'll have to take your word for it. can't stand the "sound" of that album...... :( Sound as in the songs or the production? I think the production is decent and some of the songs.The sound. The bass tone in particular. The thinness if that's a word. Mission is a nice song..... Geddy was using a Wal bass on that album which really gave him a much different tone.While I'm glad he dumped the Wal I can appreciate the difference. I know he quit using the Wal basses because they stopped production etc. When I heard a year so ago that they had started production back up I thought oh no I hope he doesn't start using them again. They're really nice basses and play like a dream but they just don't fit the Rush sound, IMO.i just can't stand the sound. I have stretched and plucked rubber bands between my thumb and forefinger that sounded better. Just my poor taste I guess since most seem to enjoy that sound.... I'm not sure about "most". I agree about the bass tone sounding rubbery. Good description.Coming from you that means alot. That's is what I hear and envision when listening to that music. No power or substance at all to my taste anyway..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 ]i just can't stand the sound. I have stretched and plucked rubber bands between my thumb and forefinger that sounded better. Just my poor taste I guess since most seem to enjoy that sound.... I'm not sure about "most". I agree about the bass tone sounding rubbery. Good description. Now, if you could wedge a pickup in that space between your thumb and forefinger, and plug it into an amplifier, you would get a bass sound that is better than that Wal bass sound. But I think the range of tones would be rather limited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narps Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 ]i just can't stand the sound. I have stretched and plucked rubber bands between my thumb and forefinger that sounded better. Just my poor taste I guess since most seem to enjoy that sound.... I'm not sure about "most". I agree about the bass tone sounding rubbery. Good description. Now, if you could wedge a pickup in that space between your thumb and forefinger, and plug it into an amplifier, you would get a bass sound that is better than that Wal bass sound. But I think the range of tones would be rather limited.Where would or should I stick the plug?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 I love the sound on Hold Your Fire. Real 80s sound! I hear what you mean about the bass though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toymaker Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 ]i just can't stand the sound. I have stretched and plucked rubber bands between my thumb and forefinger that sounded better. Just my poor taste I guess since most seem to enjoy that sound.... I'm not sure about "most". I agree about the bass tone sounding rubbery. Good description. Now, if you could wedge a pickup in that space between your thumb and forefinger, and plug it into an amplifier, you would get a bass sound that is better than that Wal bass sound. But I think the range of tones would be rather limited.Where would or should I stick the plug?..... Nowhere that will cause you to produce an unmusical sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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