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Please, should have been YES before NIRVANA.

 

I don't think you can say that Yes has had a bigger influence on music than Nirvana did. I know a lot of people now say that Cobain's fame is owed to his early death, but I can remember people going crazy for Nevermind when it first came out. Until the late 90s-early 00s labels were signing "grunge" bands trying to find the next Nirvana.

 

Music? Yeah, I guess it's music. Haha

 

Look, as a musician, Nirvana is the bottom of the barrel. Teens identified with them because their lyrics and feel were depressing.

 

"Making teenagers depressed is like shooting fish in a barrel" - Bart Simpson

 

They had mass appeal but to me, the hall of fame is for special artists, who deserve recognition for their excellence, not record sales. I realize I'm in the minority but it is how I feel.

 

I can show anyone who has never picked up a guitar one chord shape (bar chord) and then teach them 20 Nirvana songs. Nothing excellent there. Sorry.

 

And it's this attitude that keeps bands like Yes out of the Hall.. Most people , the general public, could give a shit about technical brilliance or inventive/experimental songwriting.. Rock music came from the blues, not classical or jazz.. I think Yes should be in there, but at the same time, I get why Nirvana is and was more influential.. The music snobbery you express makes all Prog fans look like elitists, and that's what a majority of the music establishment thinks, and it's why bands like the Ramones and the sex pistols happened.

 

Nirvana , and Kurt Cobain, were a great band.. They wrote well crafted punk influenced tunes with cool hooks and melodies.. Who gives a shit if it wasn't all that complex? It's rock n roll

 

I am far from a musical "snob". I love old school, hard hitting rock and roll. I like some punk music.

 

An example. I love Green Day. Very Simple chord structures but their drummer is exceptional, bass player is interesting and unique. Billy Joe writes brilliant melodies over it all and they are very dynamic. Their lyrics are interesting and well crafted. Their music is simple but they are great at what they do.

 

Nirvana for me was as mediocre as it gets. Changing music isn't always for the better. Cobain had an "every man" kind of quality that teens could relate to. Every cover band on the planet could cover their music and I found it boring and redundant. It is all simply my opinion. There are thousands of bands writing very similar, droning songs because they lack the musical knowledge to do any better.

 

I really am trying not to come across wrong, I just know the "I'm playing chords with no knowledge if it fits" mentality. Major, minor? Who cares?

 

Simplicity is fine, I just don't think simplicity because I don't know any more should be rewarded with HoF status!?! I really believe it was popular because it was dumbed down and the masses ate it up.

 

Sorry if you disagree but that is the beauty of music, plenty for everyone. We don't have to agree.

green day's way shittier

 

Than Nirvana? No way. From a taste standpoint, you can have your opinion. Talent wise (and we are talking about the tallest midget here) Green Day has more talent.

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I'm still waiting for Cheap Trick (among many, many others).

 

I'm a Cheap Trick fan and I don't think they will ever get inducted.

 

They should. Hell, you take a look at all the other "rock acts" in there and I say, why not?? They have kickass tunes and a very successful career. They deserve it too.

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I'm still waiting for Cheap Trick (among many, many others).

 

I'm a Cheap Trick fan and I don't think they will ever get inducted.

 

They should. Hell, you take a look at all the other "rock acts" in there and I say, why not?? They have kickass tunes and a very successful career. They deserve it too.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you. Who knows? Hopefully I'm wrong.

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YES definitely deserves to be inducted. travesty.

 

Which of the 15 members gets inducted?

 

Wow I counted poorly... I looked it up and discovered that I missed 5 members. There have been 20 total members of Yes to date:

 

Members[edit]

  • Chris Squire – bass, vocals (1968–1981, 1982–2004, 2008–present)
  • Steve Howe – guitars, vocals (1970–1981, 1990–1992, 1995–2004, 2008–present)
  • Alan White – drums, percussion, backing vocals (1972–1981, 1982–2004, 2008–present)
  • Geoff Downes – keyboards (1980–1981, 2011–present)
  • Jon Davison – lead vocals, guitar (2012–present)

Former Members[edit]

  • Jon Anderson – lead vocals, percussion, guitar, harp (1968–1980, 1983–1988, 1990–2004)
  • Tony Kaye – keyboards, backing vocals (1968–1971, 1982–June 1983, October 1983–1994)
  • Peter Banks – guitar, backing vocals (1968–1970; died 2013)
  • Bill Bruford – drums, percussion (1968–September 1968, November 1968–1972, 1990–1992)
  • Tony O'Reilly – drums (September 1968 – November 1968)
  • Rick Wakeman – keyboards, piano, Hammond organ, Mellotron (1971–1974, 1976–1980, 1990–1992, 1995–1996, 2002–2004)
  • Patrick Moraz – keyboards (1974–1976)
  • Trevor Horn – lead vocals (1980–1981)
  • Trevor Rabin – guitar, vocals, keyboards (1982–1994)
  • Eddie Jobson – keyboards (June 1983–October 1983)
  • Billy Sherwood – guitar, backing vocals (1994, 1997–2000), keyboards, backing vocals (1997)
  • Igor Khoroshev – keyboards, backing vocals (1997–2000)
  • Benoît David – lead vocals (2008–2012)
  • Oliver Wakeman – keyboards (2008–2011)

Former live members

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YES definitely deserves to be inducted. travesty.

 

Which of the 15 members gets inducted?

 

Wow I counted poorly... I looked it up and discovered that I missed 5 members. There have been 20 total members of Yes to date:

 

Members[edit]

  • Chris Squire – bass, vocals (1968–1981, 1982–2004, 2008–present)
  • Steve Howe – guitars, vocals (1970–1981, 1990–1992, 1995–2004, 2008–present)
  • Alan White – drums, percussion, backing vocals (1972–1981, 1982–2004, 2008–present)
  • Geoff Downes – keyboards (1980–1981, 2011–present)
  • Jon Davison – lead vocals, guitar (2012–present)

Former Members[edit]

  • Jon Anderson – lead vocals, percussion, guitar, harp (1968–1980, 1983–1988, 1990–2004)
  • Tony Kaye – keyboards, backing vocals (1968–1971, 1982–June 1983, October 1983–1994)
  • Peter Banks – guitar, backing vocals (1968–1970; died 2013)
  • Bill Bruford – drums, percussion (1968–September 1968, November 1968–1972, 1990–1992)
  • Tony O'Reilly – drums (September 1968 – November 1968)
  • Rick Wakeman – keyboards, piano, Hammond organ, Mellotron (1971–1974, 1976–1980, 1990–1992, 1995–1996, 2002–2004)
  • Patrick Moraz – keyboards (1974–1976)
  • Trevor Horn – lead vocals (1980–1981)
  • Trevor Rabin – guitar, vocals, keyboards (1982–1994)
  • Eddie Jobson – keyboards (June 1983–October 1983)
  • Billy Sherwood – guitar, backing vocals (1994, 1997–2000), keyboards, backing vocals (1997)
  • Igor Khoroshev – keyboards, backing vocals (1997–2000)
  • Benoît David – lead vocals (2008–2012)
  • Oliver Wakeman – keyboards (2008–2011)

Former live members

I think they will induct them eventually when they reconfigure the venue and build a larger stage...... :unsure:

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Please, should have been YES before NIRVANA.

 

You picked the worst example from that list of bands. They're not my favorite, but unlike most on the list, they're actually rock, influential, and popular.

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Yes has some great music, but they are also a victim of the 80s (you know, the stuff that Nirvana and Pearl Jam saved us from) and they never recovered. In terms of influence, popularity and actual "rock"-ness, both Pearl Jam and Nirvana are far more deserving.
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Please, should have been YES before NIRVANA.

 

You picked the worst example from that list of bands. They're not my favorite, but unlike most on the list, they're actually rock, influential, and popular.

 

I disagree. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good... and vice versa.

 

Nirvana was popular but IMO they were horrible.

 

Just my opinion.

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Please, should have been YES before NIRVANA.

 

You picked the worst example from that list of bands. They're not my favorite, but unlike most on the list, they're actually rock, influential, and popular.

 

I disagree. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good... and vice versa.

 

Nirvana was popular but IMO they were horrible.

 

Just my opinion.

ledrush has used the whole popular = better argument to support his insane obsession with test for echo many times!

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Please, should have been YES before NIRVANA.

 

You picked the worst example from that list of bands. They're not my favorite, but unlike most on the list, they're actually rock, influential, and popular.

 

I disagree. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good... and vice versa.

 

Nirvana was popular but IMO they were horrible.

 

Just my opinion.

 

We're talking about a hall of fame...one that is supposed to be about rock and roll. No one on the list fills the objective criteria (or at least, what I believe the criteria should be) of such a institution as well as Nirvana. Again, I'm not a huge fan, but Nirvana is a no-brainer.

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Please, should have been YES before NIRVANA.

 

You picked the worst example from that list of bands. They're not my favorite, but unlike most on the list, they're actually rock, influential, and popular.

 

I disagree. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good... and vice versa.

 

Nirvana was popular but IMO they were horrible.

 

Just my opinion.

ledrush has used the whole popular = better argument to support his insane obsession with test for echo many times!

 

I have never used the popular = better argument...ever. And if I did, I wouldn't use it on T4E, as that album sold slightly worse than Counterparts. I have talked about quantifying opinions of fans through popularity with respect to RTB to combat groundless statements about that album, though.

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nirvana and pearl jam didn't save us from the 80s, the 80s were over and that type of music was on its way out anyway.

 

They brought rock back into the mainstream on a huge scale.

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I was there, Nirvana changed the way people thought about popular music. Did they do it alone? No. But they definitely led the way. Obviously on a much smaller scale, but similar to what happened in 1964 or so...

 

I would've put the date at 1966/7, but that is exactly my point.

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