Dscrapre Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 So, I was checking the lyrics to Tears when I noticed the writers credits. It said "Geddy Lee, David Rotheray, James Gerard McDermott, and Paul Heaton".I didn't know that Rush ever employed outside songwriters (Aside from Mr. Dubois' contributions to Tom Sawyer and Between Sun and Moon).Any other songs with outside songwriters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefunk Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Really? On the LP I thought it just credits Lee for that one. Another outside writer is Peter Talbot on 'Closer To The Heart'. I'd love to know who he is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 So, I was checking the lyrics to Tears when I noticed the writers credits. It said "Geddy Lee, David Rotheray, James Gerard McDermott, and Paul Heaton".I didn't know that Rush ever employed outside songwriters (Aside from Mr. Dubois' contributions to Tom Sawyer and Between Sun and Moon).Any other songs with outside songwriters? Where did you see this? None of the versions of the album I have say this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefunk Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 And aren't Paul Heaton and David Rotheray from the Beautiful South? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Really? On the LP I thought it just credits Lee for that one. Another outside writer is Peter Talbot on 'Closer To The Heart'. I'd love to know who he is! "'Closer to the Heart' is a bit different from any song we've done. It was based on somebody else's idea. It came from Peter Talbot. He's a radio and media person and a very prolific writer, so every time we get out there he gives me a big pile of stuff like this to take home. 'Closer to the Heart,' the title and the first verse, comes from him." - Neil Peart, Circus, October 13, 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I thought Desmond Child had a hand in Tears too. Mercury wanted to make sure 2112 was a hit, so they forced Rush to use top songwriters. I think Paul Anka co-wrote Lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 So, I was checking the lyrics to Tears when I noticed the writers credits. It said "Geddy Lee, David Rotheray, James Gerard McDermott, and Paul Heaton".I didn't know that Rush ever employed outside songwriters (Aside from Mr. Dubois' contributions to Tom Sawyer and Between Sun and Moon).Any other songs with outside songwriters? Where did you see this? None of the versions of the album I have say this.You must have the Chinese bootleg versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LedRush Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) So, I was checking the lyrics to Tears when I noticed the writers credits. It said "Geddy Lee, David Rotheray, James Gerard McDermott, and Paul Heaton".I didn't know that Rush ever employed outside songwriters (Aside from Mr. Dubois' contributions to Tom Sawyer and Between Sun and Moon).Any other songs with outside songwriters? Where did you see this? None of the versions of the album I have say this.You must have the Chinese bootleg versions. I don't think bootleg blu-rays work very well. At least not the ones I got in China. Edited August 29, 2013 by LedRush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanadoood Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Neil Diamond was a ghost writer on I think I'm going Bald.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Really? On the LP I thought it just credits Lee for that one.Same here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 So, I was checking the lyrics to Tears when I noticed the writers credits. It said "Geddy Lee, David Rotheray, James Gerard McDermott, and Paul Heaton".I didn't know that Rush ever employed outside songwriters (Aside from Mr. Dubois' contributions to Tom Sawyer and Between Sun and Moon).Any other songs with outside songwriters? Where did you see this? Perhaps here?http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rush/tears.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 So, I was checking the lyrics to Tears when I noticed the writers credits. It said "Geddy Lee, David Rotheray, James Gerard McDermott, and Paul Heaton".I didn't know that Rush ever employed outside songwriters (Aside from Mr. Dubois' contributions to Tom Sawyer and Between Sun and Moon).Any other songs with outside songwriters? Where did you see this? Perhaps here?http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rush/tears.htmlAnd Burt Bacharach co-wrote Speed Of Love! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefunk Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Really? On the LP I thought it just credits Lee for that one. Another outside writer is Peter Talbot on 'Closer To The Heart'. I'd love to know who he is! "'Closer to the Heart' is a bit different from any song we've done. It was based on somebody else's idea. It came from Peter Talbot. He's a radio and media person and a very prolific writer, so every time we get out there he gives me a big pile of stuff like this to take home. 'Closer to the Heart,' the title and the first verse, comes from him." - Neil Peart, Circus, October 13, 1977Thanks LedRush- I found a transcript of the interview here, in case anyone's interested. :)http://www.2112.net/...71013circus.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Really? On the LP I thought it just credits Lee for that one. Another outside writer is Peter Talbot on 'Closer To The Heart'. I'd love to know who he is! "'Closer to the Heart' is a bit different from any song we've done. It was based on somebody else's idea. It came from Peter Talbot. He's a radio and media person and a very prolific writer, so every time we get out there he gives me a big pile of stuff like this to take home. 'Closer to the Heart,' the title and the first verse, comes from him." - Neil Peart, Circus, October 13, 1977Thanks LedRush- I found a transcript of the interview here, in case anyone's interested. :)http://www.2112.net/...71013circus.htm Cohen asked some weird questions. Cohen: Did you ever hear a piece of music you're sure comes from out of this world? Cohen: Do you think your music exists in mid-air? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefunk Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 He asks some more weird questions here:http://www.2112.net/...71027circus.htmhttp://www.2112.net/...71110circus.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Tammy Faye Bakker helped write War Paint. Edited August 29, 2013 by presto123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dscrapre Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 It's seems to say it on all of the lyrics websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dscrapre Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 It's seems to say it on all of the lyrics websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JARG Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) It's seems to say it on all of the lyrics websites. Be that as it may, I wouldn't treat any of them as a definitive source for songwriting credit. Edited August 29, 2013 by JARG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMCXII Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Neil Diamond was a ghost writer on I think I'm going Bald.. I thought that was Frank Zappa.. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerxster Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It's seems to say it on all of the lyrics websites.Sorry for being a stinker. Those lyric sites all copy off one another. Not the best places for accuracy. Those dudes did not write with Geddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefunk Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Sorry for being a stinker. Those lyric sites all copy off one another. Not the best places for accuracy. Those dudes did not write with Geddy.Especially since Heaton and Rotheray were about 14 when 2112 was released. No idea who McDermott could be! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ytserush Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Holy erroneous metadata aggregation Batman! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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