RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I see many of you are getting off on the new Wet Dream Theater today. I will be listening to that album tonight, however when I was at Best Buy today I also came across the new Alice Cooper, "Welcome 2 My Nightmare." The Best Buy version contains four live bonus tracks! Only 9.99! Anyway this record is all over the place. Cooper has taken pieces of every musical genre on the planet and infused into one strange sequel. Some of you will love this record, some will hate it. So far I'm in the middle. It's not bad, but it's not great. There is a disco song on this record entitled "Disco Bloodbath Boogie Fever." Strange intro. Alice Cooper is a Legend, but is he washed up? I'm on the fence but I probably will not see his next tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) I've been a big Cooper fan for a lot of years now and this album is a major letdown. The last album from him I enjoyed was Dragontown. The last four albums have had some good songs but overall they aren't good albums. There are a few bright spots on the new one. I Am Made Of You, Caffine, The Congrigation, I'll Bite Your Face Off and When Hell Comes Home are good but other than that the album is just an absolute mess musically. I know Cooper has always done a variety of musical styles but at least they've always made sense and flowed well like on Welcome To My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes To Hell. With this album it just doesn't and more importantly the story here has nothing to do with the one in the first Nightmare. Quite frankly it's an insult to the first Nightmare to have this new album share a name and be associated with it on any way. Edited September 14, 2011 by J2112YYZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM) I've been a big Cooper fan for a lot of years now and this album is a major letdown. The last album from him I enjoyed was Dragontown. The last four albums have had some good songs but overall they aren't good albums. There are a few bright spots on the new one. I Am Made Of You, Caffine, The Congrigation, I'll Bite Your Face Off and When Hell Comes Home are good but other than that the album is just an absolute mess musically. I know Cooper has always done a variety of musical styles but at least they've always made sense and flowed well like on Welcome To My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes To Hell. With this album it just doesn't and more importantly the story here has nothing to do with the one in the first Nightmare. Quite frankly it's an insult to the first Nightmare to have this new album share a name and be associated with it on any way. Well stated. I totally agree. The album has absolutely no musical flow to it at all. It's an ok album but yeah, it's a mess. Is that what Alice intended to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:24 PM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM) I've been a big Cooper fan for a lot of years now and this album is a major letdown. The last album from him I enjoyed was Dragontown. The last four albums have had some good songs but overall they aren't good albums. There are a few bright spots on the new one. I Am Made Of You, Caffine, The Congrigation, I'll Bite Your Face Off and When Hell Comes Home are good but other than that the album is just an absolute mess musically. I know Cooper has always done a variety of musical styles but at least they've always made sense and flowed well like on Welcome To My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes To Hell. With this album it just doesn't and more importantly the story here has nothing to do with the one in the first Nightmare. Quite frankly it's an insult to the first Nightmare to have this new album share a name and be associated with it on any way. Well stated. I totally agree. The album has absolutely no musical flow to it at all. It's an ok album but yeah, it's a mess. Is that what Alice intended to do? I think it was his intention to make it diverse musically but it just didn't work out. Maybe dementia is finally setting in on Alice at his old age now You should still go see Cooper live though. I saw him last month and he still brings it as good as anyone on the stage even though his recent studio efforts are disappointing. His sets are mainly made up of classic material so at most you might get three songs off the new album. That's no reason to skip one of the best live acts of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:04 PM) Wet Dream Theater Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:29 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:24 PM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM) I've been a big Cooper fan for a lot of years now and this album is a major letdown. The last album from him I enjoyed was Dragontown. The last four albums have had some good songs but overall they aren't good albums. There are a few bright spots on the new one. I Am Made Of You, Caffine, The Congrigation, I'll Bite Your Face Off and When Hell Comes Home are good but other than that the album is just an absolute mess musically. I know Cooper has always done a variety of musical styles but at least they've always made sense and flowed well like on Welcome To My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes To Hell. With this album it just doesn't and more importantly the story here has nothing to do with the one in the first Nightmare. Quite frankly it's an insult to the first Nightmare to have this new album share a name and be associated with it on any way. Well stated. I totally agree. The album has absolutely no musical flow to it at all. It's an ok album but yeah, it's a mess. Is that what Alice intended to do? I think it was his intention to make it diverse musically but it just didn't work out. Maybe dementia is finally setting in on Alice at his old age now You should still go see Cooper live though. I saw him last month and he still brings it as good as anyone on the stage even though his recent studio efforts are disappointing. His sets are mainly made up of classic material so at most you might get three songs off the new album. That's no reason to skip one of the best live acts of all time. Hahaha! You might be right about Alice's brain!!! Again I have to agree with you about his live performances. I saw Alice a few years ago and it was first time seeing him. It was Queensryche, Alice Cooper, and Heaven & Hell. Alice Cooper blew them ALL AWAY!!!! Maybe I will go again! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:29 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:24 PM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM) I've been a big Cooper fan for a lot of years now and this album is a major letdown. The last album from him I enjoyed was Dragontown. The last four albums have had some good songs but overall they aren't good albums. There are a few bright spots on the new one. I Am Made Of You, Caffine, The Congrigation, I'll Bite Your Face Off and When Hell Comes Home are good but other than that the album is just an absolute mess musically. I know Cooper has always done a variety of musical styles but at least they've always made sense and flowed well like on Welcome To My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes To Hell. With this album it just doesn't and more importantly the story here has nothing to do with the one in the first Nightmare. Quite frankly it's an insult to the first Nightmare to have this new album share a name and be associated with it on any way. Well stated. I totally agree. The album has absolutely no musical flow to it at all. It's an ok album but yeah, it's a mess. Is that what Alice intended to do? I think it was his intention to make it diverse musically but it just didn't work out. Maybe dementia is finally setting in on Alice at his old age now You should still go see Cooper live though. I saw him last month and he still brings it as good as anyone on the stage even though his recent studio efforts are disappointing. His sets are mainly made up of classic material so at most you might get three songs off the new album. That's no reason to skip one of the best live acts of all time. Oh and why the hell is KE$HA on the album? Is he trying to bring in a modern sound to his record to sell units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:42 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:04 PM) Wet Dream Theater Brilliant! Why thank you sir. How's life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go2wrk@95974 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Well, that name went thru the cobwebs of my mind, and it was an instant flashback!!! ...I mean..who can forget "Schools out for summer" ???? ..That was an absolute anthem,back in the day,when I was in High school...and I emphasize the word HIGH, very strongly! Thanks for the word,man..might just have to pick that cd up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:56 PM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:29 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 08:24 PM) QUOTE (J2112YYZ @ Sep 13 2011, 06:22 PM) I've been a big Cooper fan for a lot of years now and this album is a major letdown. The last album from him I enjoyed was Dragontown. The last four albums have had some good songs but overall they aren't good albums. There are a few bright spots on the new one. I Am Made Of You, Caffine, The Congrigation, I'll Bite Your Face Off and When Hell Comes Home are good but other than that the album is just an absolute mess musically. I know Cooper has always done a variety of musical styles but at least they've always made sense and flowed well like on Welcome To My Nightmare and Alice Cooper Goes To Hell. With this album it just doesn't and more importantly the story here has nothing to do with the one in the first Nightmare. Quite frankly it's an insult to the first Nightmare to have this new album share a name and be associated with it on any way. Well stated. I totally agree. The album has absolutely no musical flow to it at all. It's an ok album but yeah, it's a mess. Is that what Alice intended to do? I think it was his intention to make it diverse musically but it just didn't work out. Maybe dementia is finally setting in on Alice at his old age now You should still go see Cooper live though. I saw him last month and he still brings it as good as anyone on the stage even though his recent studio efforts are disappointing. His sets are mainly made up of classic material so at most you might get three songs off the new album. That's no reason to skip one of the best live acts of all time. Oh and why the hell is KE$HA on the album? Is he trying to bring in a modern sound to his record to sell units? I'm not sure but I think the less said about Kesha's involvement the better Most people don't buy albums like they used to so if it was an idea to sell more albums than it was a bad one and shows that Cooper and his management are out of touch with what the music buisness is today. I also saw Cooper on the tour with Qeensryche and Heaven & Hell. He was the best act of the night no doubt about it. Seeing him on his own is a real treat. He always plays the big hits to please everyone but he also plays a handful of songs just for the diehards. When I saw him last month he played The Black Widow, Brutal Planet, Wicked Young Man, Halo Of Flies, Clones (We're All) and Muscle Of Love in addition to all the big songs everybody knows. So he doesn't ignore the depth of his catalog live like a lot of bands tend to do. He also played Hey Stoopid on this summers tour for the first time in forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:56 PM) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:42 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:04 PM) Wet Dream Theater Brilliant! Why thank you sir. How's life? I'm hangin' in there! Thanks for asking. Glad to see you still "here." On a related note: AC was the first show I ever saw at the Pavilion in 1980 with Y&T opening. Flush the Fashion tour. Davey Johnstone from Elton John's band was the guitarist. Saw Alice again a couple years back between Queensryche and Heaven and Hell. Eric Singer is his drummer when KISS is off. Still a great show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Sep 13 2011, 10:13 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:56 PM) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:42 PM) QUOTE (RUSHHEAD666 @ Sep 13 2011, 06:04 PM) Wet Dream Theater Brilliant! Why thank you sir. How's life? I'm hangin' in there! Thanks for asking. Glad to see you still "here." On a related note: AC was the first show I ever saw at the Pavilion in 1980 with Y&T opening. Flush the Fashion tour. Davey Johnstone from Elton John's band was the guitarist. Saw Alice again a couple years back between Queensryche and Heaven and Hell. Eric Singer is his drummer when KISS is off. Still a great show! Thank you my friend! Glad to still be "here" too. God only knows how long I will last. This Rush Board is turning into Wet Dream Theater Central. I can't believe you saw that awesome show with Y&T opening!! That means you saw the Y&T "EARTHSHAKER" TOUR!! I am so fukking jealous!! Wow and I love Davey too!! Incredible guitarist! I never knew he was in AC buddy!! I am sure we will meet again at future shows. "Carry On My Wayward Son!" Earl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) Edited September 14, 2011 by RUSHHEAD666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CygnusX-1Bk2 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 You are a beautiful human being my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSHHEAD666 Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (CygnusX-1Bk2 @ Sep 14 2011, 01:28 AM) You are a beautiful human being my friend! To quote the movie title that has Rush in it, "I LOVE YOU MAN!" Seriously, your kind words have given me some peace of mind tonight. I'm glad you understand where I am coming from. Cheers! Earl Edited September 14, 2011 by RUSHHEAD666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I love the original band!!!! Some of the best albums of the era!!!! LOVE THEM! After they left, meh. Nightmare was pretty good, but nothing compared to gems like... Love It To Death, Killers, Schools Out, and, Billion Dollar Babies Those were perfect albums in my humble opinion Now if you will excuse me, I need to listen to the new Dream Theater album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nappy2112 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Also saw Alice last month and it was incredible ! Love the new album , you just don't know what's around the next corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Within 77 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Gonna probably pick this up soon. Although nothing Alice does can ever compare to the genius of the original group, I do like some of his solo stuff. Killer and Billion Dollar Babies will always be the best ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormtron Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 He still brings it live, but this album sucks. That auto-tune intro immediately put me off. A few good songs, but there's a lot of cheesy shit going on. The Kesha song is as bad as expected. Doesn't hold a candle to the first album. Should've called it something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) QUOTE (Enemy Within 77 @ Sep 15 2011, 02:32 AM) nothing Alice does can ever compare to the genius of the original group, Killer and Billion Dollar Babies will always be the best ones! Also, Love It To Death! Edited September 15, 2011 by tick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enemy Within 77 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 QUOTE (tick @ Sep 15 2011, 04:00 PM) QUOTE (Enemy Within 77 @ Sep 15 2011, 02:32 AM) nothing Alice does can ever compare to the genius of the original group, Killer and Billion Dollar Babies will always be the best ones! Also, Love It To Death! Ballad of Dwight Fry alone makes that album a masterpiece. Hell, all the original AC Group albums are masterpieces to me- even the underrated Muscle of Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2112YYZ Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Yes, the original group has a lot of great stuff. I'm to young to remember them as a group so i've never considered those albums to be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Lang Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (tick @ Sep 14 2011, 07:18 AM)I love the original band!!!! Some of the best albums of the era!!!! LOVE THEM! After they left, meh. Alice should record with those guys again and call it ReCooperated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 QUOTE (Silas Lang @ Sep 21 2011, 12:12 AM) QUOTE (tick @ Sep 14 2011, 07:18 AM)I love the original band!!!! Some of the best albums of the era!!!! LOVE THEM! After they left, meh. Alice should record with those guys again and call it ReCooperated Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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