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Dusty's gone.

 

CINCINNATI -- One very bad week clinched Dusty Baker's fate. The Cincinnati Reds decided they weren't going to bring him back.

 

Not after they ended the season with six losses in a row, including the wild-card playoff game. Not after they failed to get past the opening round of the playoffs for the third time in a row. Not with all the booing at Great American Ball Park.

 

Instead of keeping Baker around for one more try, the Reds fired him on Friday, parting ways with the manager who led them to their best stretch of success since the Big Red Machine but couldn't get them deep into the postseason.

 

"Maybe the time is long enough because I was starting to get quite a few jeers and some hate mail and stuff," Baker said during a conference call. "So maybe it was time for me to move on."

 

The move came after the Reds lost the wild-card playoff in Pittsburgh 6-2 on Tuesday night, their sixth straight loss. The final-week fade was a major factor in the decision, general manager Walt Jocketty said in a phone interview.

 

"Just the way we played lately was a factor," Jocketty said. "But I think the way the season ended was kind of the final decision.

 

"The last six games certainly played a big part in this," he added.

 

The Reds are the fourth team with an opening at manager. Davey Johnson retired after the Nationals' season, Eric Wedge left the Mariners and the Cubs fired Dale Sveum after finishing last in the NL Central.

 

Baker took over a rebuilding team in 2008 and led it to three 90-win seasons and three playoff appearances in the last four years, their best run since Sparky Anderson managed the Big Red Machine to two World Series titles in the 1970s.

 

The lack of playoff success built pressure for change.

 

"Although he's the one that ran the club every day, there are a lot of areas we can look at that could be to blame here, including the front office, the players, the coaching staff," Jocketty said. "It's not only just Dusty.

 

"We felt it was important going forward to provide new leadership, a new voice, whatever you want to call it," he said.

 

Though stunned by the late fade -- Baker said he felt "very helpless" as the offense went into a slump and the rotation fell apart -- he expected to return for the final year on his contract, which, according to ESPN sources, he will be paid for despite the move.

 

"Maybe it's something I said, maybe something I didn't say along the way," Baker said. "I know I had a conversation with Walt that they were going to look to replace (hitting coach) Brook Jacoby, and I was like, 'Oh, no, Brook's not doing anything as one of my coaches that deserved that.' It wasn't an ultimatum, but I just said, `Hey, man, if we get rid of Brook, you might as well get rid of me, too.'

 

"The next thing I was called up to the office," Baker continued. "I thought I was going to discuss Brook's future and the rest of the coaches' future, and I was told my services were no longer needed."

 

He thinks they might be somewhere else. The 64-year-old Baker is in good health and hopes to manage again.

 

"I've got a lot to offer somebody," he said. "I know it, and I think they know it, too."

 

He didn't get to celebrate the Reds' last two playoff-clinching wins. Last year, he was in a hospital in Chicago recovering from an irregular heartbeat and a mini-stroke when the Reds wrapped up the NL Central title in Cincinnati.

 

They decided not to celebrate when they clinched a wild card this year with a 90-72 record, hoping for that deep run in the playoffs. Instead, they went on that final fade.

 

Baker went 509-463 in his six seasons with Cincinnati, finishing third on the Reds' list for wins by a manager behind Anderson (863) and Bill McKechnie (744). His 1,671 wins rank 16th on the career list. He won three NL Manager of the Year awards.

 

The former Braves and Dodgers star outfielder is one of only six managers to win at least 300 games with three different teams. He took the Giants, Cubs and Reds to the playoffs seven times without winning a World Series.

 

His closest brush came in 2002 with the Giants, who beat the Braves and the Cardinals before losing to the Angels in a seven-game World Series. He's 19-26 all-time in the postseason.

 

His successor in Cincinnati will take the job with enormous expectations from the outset.

 

Baker led the Reds out of one of their worst stretches in franchise history. After Johnson led them to the NL Championship Series in 1995, the bottom fell out. They failed to reach the playoffs under managers Ray Knight, Jack McKeon, Bob Boone, Dave Miley and Jerry Narron, going 15 years without a postseason appearance.

 

They won the division in 2010 with a young lineup that developed faster than expected, and got swept by Philadelphia in the first round of the playoffs -- a disappointment that was counted as a first step in building a championship team.

 

They won 97 games last year, the second-most in the majors and their highest total since the 1975-76 World Series championships. They won their first two playoff games in San Francisco, but dropped three straight in Cincinnati for a stunning exit.

 

Baker led the Reds to 90 wins again this season -- the eighth time one of his teams won 90 -- but the team went into a slump the final week.

 

"We felt we had the talent to go further into the playoffs, yes," Jocketty said. "We had a lot of people outside the organization that felt we certainly did."

 

The Reds plan to compile a list of managerial candidates next week. Jocketty said pitching coach Bryan Price and Jim Riggleman, who managed at Triple-A Louisville, would be among the in-house candidates considered. The coaching staff will be retained until the next manager is chosen.

 

Jocketty teamed with Tony La Russa to win championships in St. Louis. La Russa retired after the Cardinals won the World Series in 2011.

 

"I don't think he even wants to manage anymore," Jocketty said. "I don't think that will be a factor."

 

Asked whether he had any interest in returning to manage, La Russa said by phone, "No. The last time I saw Walt, he said he'd had more than enough of me."

 

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Dusty's gone.

 

CINCINNATI -- One very bad week clinched Dusty Baker's fate. The Cincinnati Reds decided they weren't going to bring him back.

 

Not after they ended the season with six losses in a row, including the wild-card playoff game. Not after they failed to get past the opening round of the playoffs for the third time in a row. Not with all the booing at Great American Ball Park.

 

Instead of keeping Baker around for one more try, the Reds fired him on Friday, parting ways with the manager who led them to their best stretch of success since the Big Red Machine but couldn't get them deep into the postseason.

 

"Maybe the time is long enough because I was starting to get quite a few jeers and some hate mail and stuff," Baker said during a conference call. "So maybe it was time for me to move on."

 

The move came after the Reds lost the wild-card playoff in Pittsburgh 6-2 on Tuesday night, their sixth straight loss. The final-week fade was a major factor in the decision, general manager Walt Jocketty said in a phone interview.

 

"Just the way we played lately was a factor," Jocketty said. "But I think the way the season ended was kind of the final decision.

 

"The last six games certainly played a big part in this," he added.

 

The Reds are the fourth team with an opening at manager. Davey Johnson retired after the Nationals' season, Eric Wedge left the Mariners and the Cubs fired Dale Sveum after finishing last in the NL Central.

 

Baker took over a rebuilding team in 2008 and led it to three 90-win seasons and three playoff appearances in the last four years, their best run since Sparky Anderson managed the Big Red Machine to two World Series titles in the 1970s.

 

The lack of playoff success built pressure for change.

 

"Although he's the one that ran the club every day, there are a lot of areas we can look at that could be to blame here, including the front office, the players, the coaching staff," Jocketty said. "It's not only just Dusty.

 

"We felt it was important going forward to provide new leadership, a new voice, whatever you want to call it," he said.

 

Though stunned by the late fade -- Baker said he felt "very helpless" as the offense went into a slump and the rotation fell apart -- he expected to return for the final year on his contract, which, according to ESPN sources, he will be paid for despite the move.

 

"Maybe it's something I said, maybe something I didn't say along the way," Baker said. "I know I had a conversation with Walt that they were going to look to replace (hitting coach) Brook Jacoby, and I was like, 'Oh, no, Brook's not doing anything as one of my coaches that deserved that.' It wasn't an ultimatum, but I just said, `Hey, man, if we get rid of Brook, you might as well get rid of me, too.'

 

"The next thing I was called up to the office," Baker continued. "I thought I was going to discuss Brook's future and the rest of the coaches' future, and I was told my services were no longer needed."

 

He thinks they might be somewhere else. The 64-year-old Baker is in good health and hopes to manage again.

 

"I've got a lot to offer somebody," he said. "I know it, and I think they know it, too."

 

He didn't get to celebrate the Reds' last two playoff-clinching wins. Last year, he was in a hospital in Chicago recovering from an irregular heartbeat and a mini-stroke when the Reds wrapped up the NL Central title in Cincinnati.

 

They decided not to celebrate when they clinched a wild card this year with a 90-72 record, hoping for that deep run in the playoffs. Instead, they went on that final fade.

 

Baker went 509-463 in his six seasons with Cincinnati, finishing third on the Reds' list for wins by a manager behind Anderson (863) and Bill McKechnie (744). His 1,671 wins rank 16th on the career list. He won three NL Manager of the Year awards.

 

The former Braves and Dodgers star outfielder is one of only six managers to win at least 300 games with three different teams. He took the Giants, Cubs and Reds to the playoffs seven times without winning a World Series.

 

His closest brush came in 2002 with the Giants, who beat the Braves and the Cardinals before losing to the Angels in a seven-game World Series. He's 19-26 all-time in the postseason.

 

His successor in Cincinnati will take the job with enormous expectations from the outset.

 

Baker led the Reds out of one of their worst stretches in franchise history. After Johnson led them to the NL Championship Series in 1995, the bottom fell out. They failed to reach the playoffs under managers Ray Knight, Jack McKeon, Bob Boone, Dave Miley and Jerry Narron, going 15 years without a postseason appearance.

 

They won the division in 2010 with a young lineup that developed faster than expected, and got swept by Philadelphia in the first round of the playoffs -- a disappointment that was counted as a first step in building a championship team.

 

They won 97 games last year, the second-most in the majors and their highest total since the 1975-76 World Series championships. They won their first two playoff games in San Francisco, but dropped three straight in Cincinnati for a stunning exit.

 

Baker led the Reds to 90 wins again this season -- the eighth time one of his teams won 90 -- but the team went into a slump the final week.

 

"We felt we had the talent to go further into the playoffs, yes," Jocketty said. "We had a lot of people outside the organization that felt we certainly did."

 

The Reds plan to compile a list of managerial candidates next week. Jocketty said pitching coach Bryan Price and Jim Riggleman, who managed at Triple-A Louisville, would be among the in-house candidates considered. The coaching staff will be retained until the next manager is chosen.

 

Jocketty teamed with Tony La Russa to win championships in St. Louis. La Russa retired after the Cardinals won the World Series in 2011.

 

"I don't think he even wants to manage anymore," Jocketty said. "I don't think that will be a factor."

 

Asked whether he had any interest in returning to manage, La Russa said by phone, "No. The last time I saw Walt, he said he'd had more than enough of me."

 

http://espn.go.com/m...ati-reds-ouster

 

Clint Hurdle is ours :madra:

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Dusty's gone.

 

CINCINNATI -- One very bad week clinched Dusty Baker's fate. The Cincinnati Reds decided they weren't going to bring him back.

 

Not after they ended the season with six losses in a row, including the wild-card playoff game. Not after they failed to get past the opening round of the playoffs for the third time in a row. Not with all the booing at Great American Ball Park.

 

Instead of keeping Baker around for one more try, the Reds fired him on Friday, parting ways with the manager who led them to their best stretch of success since the Big Red Machine but couldn't get them deep into the postseason.

 

"Maybe the time is long enough because I was starting to get quite a few jeers and some hate mail and stuff," Baker said during a conference call. "So maybe it was time for me to move on."

 

The move came after the Reds lost the wild-card playoff in Pittsburgh 6-2 on Tuesday night, their sixth straight loss. The final-week fade was a major factor in the decision, general manager Walt Jocketty said in a phone interview.

 

"Just the way we played lately was a factor," Jocketty said. "But I think the way the season ended was kind of the final decision.

 

"The last six games certainly played a big part in this," he added.

 

The Reds are the fourth team with an opening at manager. Davey Johnson retired after the Nationals' season, Eric Wedge left the Mariners and the Cubs fired Dale Sveum after finishing last in the NL Central.

 

Baker took over a rebuilding team in 2008 and led it to three 90-win seasons and three playoff appearances in the last four years, their best run since Sparky Anderson managed the Big Red Machine to two World Series titles in the 1970s.

 

The lack of playoff success built pressure for change.

 

"Although he's the one that ran the club every day, there are a lot of areas we can look at that could be to blame here, including the front office, the players, the coaching staff," Jocketty said. "It's not only just Dusty.

 

"We felt it was important going forward to provide new leadership, a new voice, whatever you want to call it," he said.

 

Though stunned by the late fade -- Baker said he felt "very helpless" as the offense went into a slump and the rotation fell apart -- he expected to return for the final year on his contract, which, according to ESPN sources, he will be paid for despite the move.

 

"Maybe it's something I said, maybe something I didn't say along the way," Baker said. "I know I had a conversation with Walt that they were going to look to replace (hitting coach) Brook Jacoby, and I was like, 'Oh, no, Brook's not doing anything as one of my coaches that deserved that.' It wasn't an ultimatum, but I just said, `Hey, man, if we get rid of Brook, you might as well get rid of me, too.'

 

"The next thing I was called up to the office," Baker continued. "I thought I was going to discuss Brook's future and the rest of the coaches' future, and I was told my services were no longer needed."

 

He thinks they might be somewhere else. The 64-year-old Baker is in good health and hopes to manage again.

 

"I've got a lot to offer somebody," he said. "I know it, and I think they know it, too."

 

He didn't get to celebrate the Reds' last two playoff-clinching wins. Last year, he was in a hospital in Chicago recovering from an irregular heartbeat and a mini-stroke when the Reds wrapped up the NL Central title in Cincinnati.

 

They decided not to celebrate when they clinched a wild card this year with a 90-72 record, hoping for that deep run in the playoffs. Instead, they went on that final fade.

 

Baker went 509-463 in his six seasons with Cincinnati, finishing third on the Reds' list for wins by a manager behind Anderson (863) and Bill McKechnie (744). His 1,671 wins rank 16th on the career list. He won three NL Manager of the Year awards.

 

The former Braves and Dodgers star outfielder is one of only six managers to win at least 300 games with three different teams. He took the Giants, Cubs and Reds to the playoffs seven times without winning a World Series.

 

His closest brush came in 2002 with the Giants, who beat the Braves and the Cardinals before losing to the Angels in a seven-game World Series. He's 19-26 all-time in the postseason.

 

His successor in Cincinnati will take the job with enormous expectations from the outset.

 

Baker led the Reds out of one of their worst stretches in franchise history. After Johnson led them to the NL Championship Series in 1995, the bottom fell out. They failed to reach the playoffs under managers Ray Knight, Jack McKeon, Bob Boone, Dave Miley and Jerry Narron, going 15 years without a postseason appearance.

 

They won the division in 2010 with a young lineup that developed faster than expected, and got swept by Philadelphia in the first round of the playoffs -- a disappointment that was counted as a first step in building a championship team.

 

They won 97 games last year, the second-most in the majors and their highest total since the 1975-76 World Series championships. They won their first two playoff games in San Francisco, but dropped three straight in Cincinnati for a stunning exit.

 

Baker led the Reds to 90 wins again this season -- the eighth time one of his teams won 90 -- but the team went into a slump the final week.

 

"We felt we had the talent to go further into the playoffs, yes," Jocketty said. "We had a lot of people outside the organization that felt we certainly did."

 

The Reds plan to compile a list of managerial candidates next week. Jocketty said pitching coach Bryan Price and Jim Riggleman, who managed at Triple-A Louisville, would be among the in-house candidates considered. The coaching staff will be retained until the next manager is chosen.

 

Jocketty teamed with Tony La Russa to win championships in St. Louis. La Russa retired after the Cardinals won the World Series in 2011.

 

"I don't think he even wants to manage anymore," Jocketty said. "I don't think that will be a factor."

 

Asked whether he had any interest in returning to manage, La Russa said by phone, "No. The last time I saw Walt, he said he'd had more than enough of me."

 

http://espn.go.com/m...ati-reds-ouster

 

Clint Hurdle is ours :madra:

Nice win over the Evil Empire (NL Edition) today.

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You're next Marvin Lewis ...you've been warned.

 

I think Marvin Lewis is still doing a decent job. The offense was completely inert against the Browns last week, so he does have to make some things happen this week to get it going back in the right direction. Favored against the Pats this week, right on, right on...

 

I think it's terrible that the Reds showed Dusty the door. He is by far the best manager they've had since Sparky Anderson. I understand that Dusty had a vexing problem with postseason play, but seriously, three 90-or-more win seasons in a row, and they boot him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

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You're next Marvin Lewis ...you've been warned.

 

I think Marvin Lewis is still doing a decent job. The offense was completely inert against the Browns last week, so he does have to make some things happen this week to get it going back in the right direction. Favored against the Pats this week, right on, right on...

 

I think it's terrible that the Reds showed Dusty the door. He is by far the best manager they've had since Sparky Anderson. I understand that Dusty had a vexing problem with postseason play, but seriously, three 90-or-more win seasons in a row, and they boot him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

Marvin Lewis is doing a piss poor job!!!

81-82-1 in 11 years?

0-4 in playoff games?

He is a "yes" man....

And a very poor "game day" manager!

 

Dusty Baker was fired because of his playoff record!

And his lack of control of the clubhouse.

 

You obviously do not watch the Bengals and Reds year after year after year!

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You're next Marvin Lewis ...you've been warned.

 

I think Marvin Lewis is still doing a decent job. The offense was completely inert against the Browns last week, so he does have to make some things happen this week to get it going back in the right direction. Favored against the Pats this week, right on, right on...

 

I think it's terrible that the Reds showed Dusty the door. He is by far the best manager they've had since Sparky Anderson. I understand that Dusty had a vexing problem with postseason play, but seriously, three 90-or-more win seasons in a row, and they boot him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

Marvin Lewis is doing a piss poor job!!!

81-82-1 in 11 years?

0-4 in playoff games?

He is a "yes" man....

And a very poor "game day" manager!

 

Dusty Baker was fired because of his playoff record!

And his lack of control of the clubhouse.

 

You obviously do not watch the Bengals and Reds year after year after year!

 

It still pains me that they even hired Dusty Baker.

 

I actually wanted Marvin Lewis and was there in the Dawg Pound when he won his first game , but I think he taken them as far as he can.

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You're next Marvin Lewis ...you've been warned.

 

I think Marvin Lewis is still doing a decent job. The offense was completely inert against the Browns last week, so he does have to make some things happen this week to get it going back in the right direction. Favored against the Pats this week, right on, right on...

 

I think it's terrible that the Reds showed Dusty the door. He is by far the best manager they've had since Sparky Anderson. I understand that Dusty had a vexing problem with postseason play, but seriously, three 90-or-more win seasons in a row, and they boot him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

Marvin Lewis is doing a piss poor job!!!

81-82-1 in 11 years?

0-4 in playoff games?

He is a "yes" man....

And a very poor "game day" manager!

 

Dusty Baker was fired because of his playoff record!

And his lack of control of the clubhouse.

 

You obviously do not watch the Bengals and Reds year after year after year!

 

And you obviously get a little too upset about sports. You don't need to yell about it, brother, and you don't need to go and make presumptuous statements about me.

 

So that's it; I'm done with this thread. Maybe you won't have to get all upset and start yelling again.

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And you obviously get a little too upset about sports. You don't need to yell about it, brother, and you don't need to go and make presumptuous statements about me.

 

So that's it; I'm done with this thread. Maybe you won't have to get all upset and start yelling again.

 

My apologies!

 

Sorry for going off!

 

:oops:

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You're next Marvin Lewis ...you've been warned.

 

I think Marvin Lewis is still doing a decent job. The offense was completely inert against the Browns last week, so he does have to make some things happen this week to get it going back in the right direction. Favored against the Pats this week, right on, right on...

 

I think it's terrible that the Reds showed Dusty the door. He is by far the best manager they've had since Sparky Anderson. I understand that Dusty had a vexing problem with postseason play, but seriously, three 90-or-more win seasons in a row, and they boot him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

Marvin Lewis is doing a piss poor job!!!

81-82-1 in 11 years?

0-4 in playoff games?

He is a "yes" man....

And a very poor "game day" manager!

 

Dusty Baker was fired because of his playoff record!

And his lack of control of the clubhouse.

 

You obviously do not watch the Bengals and Reds year after year after year!

And in the previous 12 years, they were 55-137. And 0-0 in the playoffs.

 

Marvin may not be able to take them much further, but he's way better than anything they had in the previous decade..

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You're next Marvin Lewis ...you've been warned.

 

I think Marvin Lewis is still doing a decent job. The offense was completely inert against the Browns last week, so he does have to make some things happen this week to get it going back in the right direction. Favored against the Pats this week, right on, right on...

 

I think it's terrible that the Reds showed Dusty the door. He is by far the best manager they've had since Sparky Anderson. I understand that Dusty had a vexing problem with postseason play, but seriously, three 90-or-more win seasons in a row, and they boot him? It doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

Marvin Lewis is doing a piss poor job!!!

81-82-1 in 11 years?

0-4 in playoff games?

He is a "yes" man....

And a very poor "game day" manager!

 

Dusty Baker was fired because of his playoff record!

And his lack of control of the clubhouse.

 

You obviously do not watch the Bengals and Reds year after year after year!

And in the previous 12 years, they were 55-137. And 0-0 in the playoffs.

 

Marvin may not be able to take them much further, but he's way better than anything they had in the previous decade..

 

Wow....

 

You sound just like the local folks around here in the Tri-State!

 

Sad!

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Cool video footage the last 3 innings of Jim Maloney's 10 inning no-hitter versus the Cubs in 1965.

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/...131124_14891344

Thanks for posting this! It's great!

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Cool video footage the last 3 innings of Jim Maloney's 10 inning no-hitter versus the Cubs in 1965.

 

http://wapc.mlb.com/...131124_14891344

Thanks for posting this! It's great!

 

You're welcome ...amazing how many Reds aren't wearing helmets.

Yep. Love the unis, too.

 

Brickhouse, Jim West, Lloyd Pettit, and Lou Boudreau were the soundtrack of my youth.

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All kinds of cool stuff here, watching a 1972 game between the Reds and Cubs now.

Probably watched that one live...

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All kinds of cool stuff here, watching a 1972 game between the Reds and Cubs now.

Probably watched that one live...

 

Date was 7/8/72 3 weeks and 1 day before my first Reds game a DH between the Reds and Giants ...damn I'm old.

 

Johnny Bench was leading the majors with 21 HR & 61 RBI's, Gary Nolan was 11-2 with a 1.90 ERA oh if he could have avoided injuries ..

 

Rookie Rick Rueschel was pitching for the Cubs , I watched about 5 innings because it was a game of the week and I can only handle so much of Curt Gowdy. :facepalm:

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All kinds of cool stuff here, watching a 1972 game between the Reds and Cubs now.

Probably watched that one live...

 

Date was 7/8/72 3 weeks and 1 day before my first Reds game a DH between the Reds and Giants ...damn I'm old.

 

Johnny Bench was leading the majors with 21 HR & 61 RBI's, Gary Nolan was 11-2 with a 1.90 ERA oh if he could have avoided injuries ..

 

Rookie Rick Rueschel was pitching for the Cubs , I watched about 5 innings because it was a game of the week and I can only handle so much of Curt Gowdy. :facepalm:

I remember Reuschel as a rookie. I don't ever remember watching Gary Nolan pitch though.

 

My first game was in 1968 between the Cubs and Astros at Wrigley. Joe Niekro was on the mound for the Cubbies.

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Reds trade Ryan Hannigan in a 3 way deal to the Rays , Reds get David Holmberg from Arizona a double A pitcher who had 2.75 ERA in 157 innings last year.

 

I always loved Hannigan , he was injured for most of last year.

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I'm ashamed to admit that I watched more L.A. Kiss football than Reds baseball this year. I knew they would struggle with all the injuries at the start of the season , but they got back into it at the all star break only to suffer more injuries.

 

I't their own damn fault, injuries are gonna happen , you gotta have a bench and they're not willing to build one then it is what it is.

 

Gonna have to pull for Bucs because I hate St. Louis and Ryan Braun.

 

GO BUCS !! :madra:

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