SIDNEY CROSBY IS THE NEXT WAYNE GRETZKY!!

[LakesideMaiden]

QUOTE (MULTIPLIED REACTION @ Mar 5 2010, 01:01 PM)

The best, end of subject. http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/squee1993/BobbyOrr.gif

Edited March 5, 2010 by LakesideMaiden

[LakesideMaiden]

Oh and about Cindy Crosby being the next Gretzky?

 

In a word:

[RUSHHEAD666]

QUOTE (LakesideMaiden @ Mar 5 2010, 11:34 AM)

Oh and about Cindy Crosby being the next Gretzky? In a word:

[silver]

QUOTE (EmotionDetector @ Mar 5 2010, 09:43 AM)

QUOTE (ReflectedLight @ Mar 4 2010, 09:09 AM) try saying crosby is the next mario lemieux.  it's not happening. imo lemieux was better than gretzky and pain was not an issue. great player and a humble guy. one record that will never be broken. mario lemieux who scored 5 goals 5 different ways in 1 game even strength, power play, short handed, penalty shot, and empty net. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOf4y7t0dc   Yup...that will forever be one of the greatest feats IMO. Untouchable, and if anyone was ever going to do it, it would be OVECHKIN or MALKIN before Crosby.   Agree as well, Magnificant Mario was better than Gretzky IMO. Gretzky has feats that are also obviously untouchable, but Mario was an unbelivable talent. He had incredible patience and intellegence with the puck. Also, his play was flashy and innovative, and more importantly than all that, he took his team to the promised land without some of the talents that surrounded Gretzky during his time with the Oil. I am going to have to not agree with this statement. Lets go over a few players that surrounded Mario in the hey day.   Joe Mullen HOF Bryan Trottier HOF Ulf Samuelson Rob Brown 2 awesome seasons Jaromir Jagr Future HOF Tom Barrasso HOF goalie. Kevin Stevens Ron Francis HOF Larry Murphy killer D man Mark Rechhi should be close to HOF in the future 1000 points Rick Tocchet Scotty Bowman   To say Mario did the things he did to win a cup alone is untrue looking at this cast he had around him when they won back to back cups.

[*Limelight*]

QUOTE (LakesideMaiden @ Mar 5 2010, 10:33 AM)

QUOTE (MULTIPLIED REACTION @ Mar 5 2010, 01:01 PM) The best, end of subject. http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/squee1993/BobbyOrr.gif I 3rd this.

[WCFIELDS]

no love for Mr. Hockey?

[Gompers]

Ovechkin. Already way ahead of Crosby as an all-around player. While his playing could be deemed somewhat dirty at times, he CAN give a hit and CAN take one. I just can't see Cindy Crysbaby as the great player everyone plays him up to be. Yes he is one of the current best, but the NHL has also marketed him to be so.

[Ya_Big_Tree]

QUOTE (Gompers @ Mar 6 2010, 10:12 AM)

Ovechkin. Already way ahead of Crosby as an all-around player. While his playing could be deemed somewhat dirty at times, he CAN give a hit and CAN take one. I just can't see Cindy Crysbaby as the great player everyone plays him up to be. Yes he is one of the current best, but the NHL has also marketed him to be so.

I'm going to have to disagree with you Gomps. Marketed him to be that way?! I think his stat average and his increasing scoring average speak for themselves.

[WCFIELDS]

QUOTE (Ya_Big_Tree @ Mar 6 2010, 10:25 AM)

QUOTE (Gompers @ Mar 6 2010, 10:12 AM) Ovechkin. Already way ahead of Crosby as an all-around player. While his playing could be deemed somewhat dirty at times, he CAN give a hit and CAN take one. I just can't see Cindy Crysbaby as the great player everyone plays him up to be. Yes he is one of the current best, but the NHL has also marketed him to be so. I'm going to have to disagree with you Gomps. Marketed him to be that way?! I think his stat average and his increasing scoring average speak for themselves. I disagree also.....Crosby has lived up to all the hype around him. He's only 22 years old, and look what he's accomplished. Like I've said before, I'm not a huge fan of him but hate when people critize him because of the "media" bullshit......Like Ovechkin gets no publicity?? I'll pull for a Canadian boy anyday thanks......

[RUSHHEAD666]

I always thought Eric Lindros was going to be the NEXT BIG THING!

I remember spending a ton of money on his rookie cards.

That was obviously a mistake.

What ever happened to that BIG BUFFOON?

 

Hell, I still have my Pat Falloon error rookie card. Remember that guy?

[-D-RocK-]

Crosby,

 

Stanley Cups: 1

 

Gold Medals: 1

 

 

 

Ovechkin,

 

Stanley Cups: 0

 

Gold Medals: 0

[Godeater2112]

QUOTE (LakesideMaiden @ Mar 5 2010, 01:34 PM)

Oh and about Cindy Crosby being the next Gretzky?  In a word:

This is my problem with Crosby, and why a lot of people can't stand the kid, even here in Canada, and the fault may not even entirely be his own.

 

Okay so even before the kid ever played a minute in the NHL he was being hyped as the "next great one". Even the other players in the league his whole rookie season, it is like the NHLPA told them they had all better refer to him as the second coming of Christ so that everyone could hype him to get the game and league revenues back up after the strike.

 

Honestly, I was tired of this guy from gay commercials and over exposure before I even ever saw him play for the Pens... then he came into the league as a very promising rookie, but spent half his first two seasons acting like a self entitled whining primadona most of the time. He really did, ank anyone now outside the delusions of rabid Penguins fans would probably agree with this. To his credit I am very happy that he has grown up a lot, really starting just this season, and carries himself a lot more like a man than a spoiled brat.

 

He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL. And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. Is he a superstar? Absolutely. Is he to be considered as maybe even going to be amongst the greatest ever one day? Absolutely not.

 

It's why they play the games. He had a great year last year and undoubtedly helped lead the Pens to the Cup, youngest captain ever to do so etc etc. But that is *pretty much* all he's done, so lets let him prove himself going forward. Sure he helped win gold at the Olympics with Canada, and sure he scored the "Golden Goal" but anyone could have scored it, so many of our players had an awesome game and awesome tournament, Crosby wasn't in our top 10 best players.

 

But somehow he walks away with half the hype all the time.

 

So yeah he is over hyped by sponsors and by often not super hockey history knowledgeable fans! Chicks love the guy which is great for him! I can see why any Pens fan just loves the guy and any other fan would love him on their team. But right now he is a just a big hockey star - not even dancing with the greats. He's not even the best player in the league right now, not even close. If anyone the past two seasons has been dancing with greatness it's been Ovechkin. I haven't seen a forward be able to single handed score at will and control the game like that since back when Jagr was in his absolute prime...

 

So yeah I love hockey would never rib anyone for being a mega fan of any particular player and that includes Crosby, but come on now and show some hockey sense, this whole conversation of greatness on the Gretzky scale really should happen in about 8 or 10 year, if it ever happens at all.

 

Edited March 6, 2010 by Godeater2112

[-D-RocK-]

QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM)

He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL. And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here.

I'd say you're wrong:

 

 

Sid the Kid -

 

Art Ross Trophy in '07.

 

Hart Trophy in '07.

 

Pearson Award in '07.

 

Stanley Cup champion in 2009.

 

 

 

For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments.

 

 

 

[WCFIELDS]

QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 07:13 PM)

QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. add....   -Gold medal olympics (with 2 game winning goals) -Gold medal (World Juniors) -PLUS he has 44 goals right now (LEADS the league).......   he sucks.....thats for sure.

Edited March 7, 2010 by WCFIELDS

[blackhawkrush]

QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Mar 6 2010, 11:23 PM)

QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 07:13 PM) QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. add....   -Gold medal olympics (with 2 game winning goals) -Gold medal (World Juniors) -PLUS he has 44 goals right now (LEADS the league).......   he sucks.....thats for sure. This isn't golf, is it?

[WCFIELDS]

QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Mar 6 2010, 10:29 PM)

QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Mar 6 2010, 11:23 PM) QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 07:13 PM) QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. add....   -Gold medal olympics (with 2 game winning goals) -Gold medal (World Juniors) -PLUS he has 44 goals right now (LEADS the league).......   he sucks.....thats for sure. This isn't golf, is it? i don't care.....Crosby still sucks and has done shit, that's my point.

[WCFIELDS]

I doubt Crosby will come close to putting up the numbers that Lemieux and Gretzky did. For him to even draw comparisons at this point of his career is pretty riduclous. Let's see how his next 5-6 years go before he gets compared to the legends of the game. He has accomplished alot so far, but has alot more to prove to move in the the elite group of NHL legends......

[RUSHHEAD666]

QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 03:45 PM)

Crosby, Stanley Cups: 1 Gold Medals: 1 Ovechkin, Stanley Cups: 0 Gold Medals: 0

 

This post says it all D!

 

[Ya_Big_Tree]

QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 08:13 PM)

QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. I'd say so.   In todays game, Crosby scored 2 goals and is first in the league with 44 goals this season, better than Ovie or anyone else in the league right now.

[RUSHHEAD666]

QUOTE (Ya_Big_Tree @ Mar 6 2010, 09:55 PM)

QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 08:13 PM) QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. I'd say so.   In todays game, Crosby scored 2 goals and is first in the league with 44 goals this season, better than Ovie or anyone else in the league right now. He's a badass. All the haters crack me up with "Cindy Crosby."   To me he's more like SID VICIOUS!   Signed,   "NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS!"     "Fukk this, fukk that, fukk it all fukker, fukkin' brat!"   Great lyrics.

[blackhawkrush]

QUOTE (Ya_Big_Tree @ Mar 6 2010, 11:55 PM)

QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 08:13 PM) QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. I'd say so.   In todays game, Crosby scored 2 goals and is first in the league with 44 goals this season, better than Ovie or anyone else in the league right now. But can he juggle?

[silver]

QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Mar 6 2010, 11:37 PM)

I doubt Crosby will come close to putting up the numbers that Lemieux and Gretzky did. For him to even draw comparisons at this point of his career is pretty riduclous. Let's see how his next 5-6 years go before he gets compared to the legends of the game. He has accomplished alot so far, but has alot more to prove to move in the the elite group of NHL legends......

I totally agree. Only a rookie would draw the conclusions this early in a career. There are a lot of players that I thought could never reach a 1000 points in their careers but did. Brian Propp reached this goal. To get into the hall of fame these days the basic requirements usually are

 

500 Goals

 

1000 points

 

1 Stanley Cup

 

Glenn Anderson had 498 goals 1099 points

 

5 Stanley cups

 

Due to his off ice behaviour it took him way longer to get into the Hall then most.

 

As it sits by these numbers Sid only fits one of the them with a Stanley Cup ring and a lot of points/ goals to go to reach it.

[Alex]

QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Mar 6 2010, 11:30 PM)

QUOTE (blackhawkrush @ Mar 6 2010, 10:29 PM) QUOTE (WCFIELDS @ Mar 6 2010, 11:23 PM) QUOTE (-D-RocK- @ Mar 6 2010, 07:13 PM) QUOTE (Godeater2112 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:28 PM) He got a lot of credit for being so great, even though he never accomplish sweet FA in the NHL.  And he didn't accomplish too much since he's been here. I'd say you're wrong:     Sid the Kid -   Art Ross Trophy in '07.   Hart Trophy in '07.   Pearson Award in '07.   Stanley Cup champion in 2009.       For a 22 year old guy, those are some pretty major accomplishments. add....   -Gold medal olympics (with 2 game winning goals) -Gold medal (World Juniors) -PLUS he has 44 goals right now (LEADS the league).......   he sucks.....thats for sure. This isn't golf, is it? i don't care.....Crosby still sucks and has done shit, that's my point. Yeah I agree. Its too bad his career is almost over too eh? Hes running out of time

[Godeater2112]

Sorry to offend some of you who apparently are major stakeholders in Crosby industries.

 

Absolutely *no doubt* for his age Sid has his share of major accomplishments and it's looking like he will have a long and heralded career.

 

I stand by what I said though, to make comparisons to Gretzky-like greatness at this point though is asinine. Better get cracking Sid - here is just some of the shit on The Great One's CV, so if you ever want to stand a chance to be called the GREATEST you better pick up the pace and also keep it going for another 15 years at least.

 

NHL Stats

 

Season Team GP G A Pts

 

1979-80 Edmonton Oilers 79 51 86 137

1980-81 Edmonton Oilers 80 55 109 164

1981-82 Edmonton Oilers 80 92 120 212

1982-83 Edmonton Oilers 80 71 125 196

1983-84 Edmonton Oilers 74 87 118 205

1984-85 Edmonton Oilers 80 73 135 208

1985-86 Edmonton Oilers 80 52 163 215

1986-87 Edmonton Oilers 79 62 121 183

1987-88 Edmonton Oilers 64 40 109 149

1988-89 Los Angeles Kings 78 54 114 168

1989-90 Los Angeles Kings 73 40 102 142

1990-91 Los Angeles Kings 78 41 122 163

1991-92 Los Angeles Kings 74 31 90 121

1992-93 Los Angeles Kings 45 16 49 65

1993-94 Los Angeles Kings 81 38 92 130

1994-95 Los Angeles Kings 48 11 37 48

1995-96 Los Angeles Kings 62 15 66 81

1995-96 St. Louis Blues 18 8 13 21

1996-97 New York Rangers 82 25 72 97

1997-98 New York Rangers 82 23 67 90

1998-99 New York Rangers 70 9 53 62

 

NHL Awards

Year League Award

1979-80 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1979-80 NHL Lady Byng Memorial Trophy

1980-81 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1980-81 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1981-82 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1981-82 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1981-82 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy

1982-83 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1982-83 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1982-83 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy

1983-84 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1983-84 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1983-84 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy

1984-85 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1984-85 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1984-85 NHL Conn Smythe Trophy

1984-85 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy

1985-86 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1985-86 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1986-87 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1986-87 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1986-87 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy

1987-88 NHL Conn Smythe Trophy

1988-89 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy

1989-90 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1990-91 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1990-91 NHL Lady Byng Memorial Trophy

1991-92 NHL Lady Byng Memorial Trophy

1993-94 NHL Art Ross Trophy

1993-94 NHL Lady Byng Memorial Trophy

1998-99 NHL Lady Byng Memorial Trophy

 

Stanley Cups

- 4 (1984, 1985, 1987, 1988)

 

International Play

World Cup:

Silver, 1996

 

Canada Cup:

Gold 1991

Gold 1987

Gold 1984

Silver 1981

 

World Championships

Bronze 1982 Finland

 

World Junior Championships

Silver 1978 Canada

 

CAREER RECORDS

 

MOST POINTS:

2,856 (1,485 games, 894 goals, 1,962 assists)

Second: Mark Messier - 1,855 (1,756 games, 694 goals, 1,193 assists)

 

MOST POINTS, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS:

3,238 (2,856 regular season and 382 playoff)

Second: Mark Messier - 2,180 (1,885 regular season and 295 playoff)

 

MOST GOALS:

894

Second: Gordie Howe, 801

 

MOST GOALS, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS:

1,016 (894 regular season and 122 playoff)

Second: Gordie Howe, 869 (801 regular season and 68 playoff)

 

MOST ASSISTS:

1,962

Second: Mark Messier, 1,171

 

MOST ASSISTS, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS:

2,222 (1,962 regular season and 260 playoff)

Second: Mark Messier, 1,357 (1,171 regular season and 186 playoff)

 

MOST GOALS BY A CENTER:

894

Second: Marcel Dionne, 731

 

MOST ASSISTS BY A CENTER:

1,962

Second: Mark Messier, 1,171

 

MOST POINTS BY A CENTER:

2,856

Second: Mark Messier, 1,855

 

MOST 40-OR-MORE GOAL SEASONS:

12

Second: Marcel Dionne, 10

 

MOST CONSECUTIVE 40-OR-MORE GOAL SEASONS:

12 (1979-80 to 1990-91)

Second: Mike Bossy, 9 (1977-78 to 1985-86)

 

MOST 50-OR-MORE GOAL SEASONS:

9 (tied with Mike Bossy)

Second: Guy Lafleur, 6

 

MOST 60-OR-MORE GOAL SEASONS:

5 (tied with Mike Bossy)

Second: Phil Esposito, 4

 

MOST CONSECUTIVE 60-OR-MORE GOAL SEASONS:

4 (1981-82 to 1984-85)

Second: Mike Bossy, 3 (1980-81 to 1982-83)

 

MOST 100-OR-MORE POINT SEASONS:

15

Second: Mario Lemieux, 10

 

MOST CONSECUTIVE 100-OR-MORE POINT SEASONS:

13 (1979-80 to 1991-92)

Second: Six players tied with 6

 

MOST THREE-OR-MORE GOAL GAMES:

50 (37 three-goal games; nine four-goal games; four five-goal games)

Second: Mike Bossy, 39 (30 three-goal games, nine four-goal games)

 

MOST OVERTIME ASSISTS:

15

Second: Doug Gilmour, 13

 

HIGHEST ASSISTS-PER-GAME AVERAGE:

1.321 (1,962 assists in 1,485 games)

Second: Mario Lemieux, 1.183 (881 assists in 745 games)

 

SINGLE SEASON RECORDS

 

MOST POINTS, ONE SEASON:

215 (1985-86, 80-game schedule)

Next (fifth): Mario Lemieux, 199 (1988-89, 80-game schedule)

 

MOST POINTS, ONE SEASON, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS:

255 (1984-85; 208 points in 80 regular season games and 47 points in 18 playoff games)

Next (sixth): Mario Lemieux, 218 (1988-89; 199 points in 76 regular season games and 19 points in 11 playoff games)

 

MOST GOALS, ONE SEASON:

92 (1981-82, 80-game schedule)

Second: Gretzky, 87 (1983-84, 80-game schedule)

 

MOST GOALS, ONE SEASON, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS:

100 (1983-84, 87 goals in 74 regular season games and 13 goals in 19 playoff games)

Second: Gretzky, Lemieux and Brett Hull tied at 97

 

MOST GOALS, 50 GAMES FROM START OF SEASON:

61 (1981-82 and 1983-84)

Third: 54 - Mario Lemieux (1988-89)

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE SEASON:

163 (1985-86, 80-game schedule)

Next (eighth): 114 - Mario Lemieux and Wayne Gretzky (1988-89, 80-game schedule)

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE SEASON, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS:

174 (1985-86, 163 assists in 80 regular season games and 11 assists in 10 playoff games)

Next (tied for 11th): 121 - Mario Lemieux (1988-89, 114 assists in 76 regular season games and seven assists in 11 playoff games)

 

MOST POINTS BY A CENTER, ONE SEASON:

215 (1985-86, 80-game schedule)

Next (fifth): 199 - Mario Lemieux, 1988-89, 80-game schedule

 

MOST GOALS BY A CENTER, ONE SEASON:

92 (1981-82, 80-game schedule)

Next (third): 85 - Mario Lemieux (1988-89, 80-game schedule).

 

MOST ASSISTS BY A CENTER:

163 (1985-86, 80-game schedule)

Next: Gretzky holds first through fifth positions

 

MOST THREE-OR-MORE GOAL GAMES:

10 (1981-82, six three-goal games; three four-goal games; one five-goal game)

(Tied in 1983-84, six three-goal games, four four-goal games)

Next (third): 9 - Mike Bossy and Mario Lemieux

 

LONGEST CONSECUTIVE ASSIST-SCORING STREAK:

23 games - 48 assists (1990-91)

Second: Adam Oates - 18 games - 28 assists (1992-93)

 

LONGEST CONSECUTIVE POINT-SCORING STREAK:

51 games - 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points (Oct. 5, 1983 to Jan. 28, 1984)

Second: Mario Lemieux - 46 games - 39 goals, 64 assists for 103 points (1989-90)

 

LONGEST CONSECUTIVE POINT-SCORING STREAK FROM START OF SEASON:

51 games - 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points

 

HIGHEST GOALS-PER-GAME AVERAGE, ONE SEASON:

1.18 (1983-84, 87 goals in 74 games)

Second (tied): 1.15 - Mario Lemieux (1992-93, 69 goals in 60 games) and Wayne Gretzky (1981-82, 92 goals in 80 games)

 

HIGHEST ASSISTS-PER-GAME AVERAGE, ONE SEASON:

2.04 (1985-86, 163 assists in 80 games)

Next (eighth): 1.52 - Mario Lemieux (1992-93, 91 assists in 60 games)

 

HIGHEST POINTS-PER-GAME AVERAGE, ONE SEASON (AMONG PLAYERS WITH 50-OR-MORE POINTS):

2.77 (1983-84, 205 points in 74 games)

Next (third): 2.67 - Mario Lemieux (1992-93, 160 points in 60 games)

 

Single Game Records

SINGLE GAME RECORDS

 

MOST GOALS, ONE PERIOD:

4 (Tied with 10 other players)

Feb. 18, 1981, third period (Edmonton 9, St. Louis 2)

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE GAME:

7 (tied with Billy Taylor)

Feb. 15, 1980 (Edmonton 8, Washington 2)

Dec. 11, 1985 (Edmonton 12, Chicago 9)

Feb. 14, 1986 (Edmonton 8, Quebec 2)

Second: 6 - 23 players

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE ROAD GAME:

7 (tied with Billy Taylor)

Dec. 11, 1985 (Edmonton 12, Chicago 9)

Second: 6 - four players

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE GAME, BY A PLAYER IN HIS FIRST NHL SEASON:

7 - Feb. 15, 1980 (Edmonton 8, Washington 2)

Second: 6 - Gary Suter, April 4, 1986 (Calgary 9, Edmonton 3)

 

CAREER RECORDS - PLAYOFFS

 

MOST PLAYOFF GOALS:

122

Second: 109 - Mark Messier

 

MOST PLAYOFF ASSISTS:

260

Second: 186 - Mark Messier

 

MOST PLAYOFF POINTS:

382 (122 goals and 260 assists)

Second: 295 - Mark Messier (109 goals and 186 assists).

 

MOST GAME-WINNING GOALS IN PLAYOFFS:

24

Second: 19 - Claude Lemieux

 

MOST THREE-OR-MORE GOAL GAMES IN PLAYOFFS:

10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games)

Second (tied): 7 - Maurice Richard (four three-goal games, two four-goal games, one five-goal game) and Jari Kurri (six three-goal games, one four-goal game)

 

SINGLE SEASON RECORDS - PLAYOFFS

 

MOST POINTS, ONE PLAYOFF YEAR:

47 (1985, 17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games)

Next: 44 - Mario Lemieux (1991, 16 goals, 28 assists in 23 games)

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE PLAYOFF YEAR:

31 (1988, 19 games)

Next (fourth): 28 - Mario Lemieux (1991, 23 games)

 

MOST POINTS IN FINAL SERIES:

13 - three goals and 10 assists (1988, four games plus suspended game vs. Boston)

Second: 12 - four players

 

MOST ASSISTS IN FINAL SERIES:

10 (1988, four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston)

Second: 9 - three players tied

 

MOST ASSISTS IN ONE SERIES (OTHER THAN FINAL):

14 - 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago)

(tied with Rick Middleton)

Second: 13 - Doug Gilmour, 1994 Conference Semifinals (seven games vs. San Jose) and Wayne Gretzky, 1987 Division Semifinal (five games vs. Los Angeles)

 

MOST SHORTHANDED GOALS, ONE PLAYOFF YEAR:

3 (1983, two vs. Winnipeg in Division Semi-Finals; one vs. Calgary in Division Finals)

(tied with five other players)

 

SINGLE GAME RECORDS -PLAYOFFS

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE PLAYOFF GAME:

6 - April 9, 1987 at Edmonton (Edmonton 13, Los Angeles 3)

(tied with Mikko Leinonen)

Next: 5 - 11 players tied

 

MOST POINTS, ONE PLAYOFF PERIOD:

4 (1 goal, 3 assists) - April 12, 1987 at Los Angeles, third period (Edmonton 6, Los Angeles 3)

(tied with nine other players)

 

MOST ASSISTS, ONE PLAYOFF PERIOD:

3 - Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions. Gretzky has had three assists in one period five times. (Ray Bourque, three times; Toe Blake, Jean Beliveau, Doug Harvey and Bobby Orr, twice.)

 

MOST SHORT-HANDED GOALS, ONE PLAYOFF GAME:

2 - April 6, 1983 at Edmonton (Edmonton 6, Winnipeg 3)

(tied with eight other players)

 

NHL ALL-STAR GAME RECORDS

 

MOST ALL-STAR GAME GOALS:

13 (in 18 games played)

Second: 11 - Mario Lemieux (in eight games played)

 

MOST ALL-STAR GAME GOALS, ONE GAME: 4 (1983 Campbell Conference)/b>

(tied with three players)

 

MOST ALL-STAR GAME GOALS, ONE PERIOD: 4 (1983 Campbell Conference, third period)br>

 

MOST ALL-STAR GAME POINTS, ONE PERIOD:

4 (1983 Campbell Conference, third period)br> (tied with Mike Gartner and Adam Oates)

 

MOST ALL-STAR GAME POINTS, CAREER:

25 (13 goals, 12 assists in 18 games)

Second: 22 - Mario Lemieux (11 goals, nine assists in 8 games)

 

MOST ALL-STAR GAME ASSISTS, CAREER:

12 (tied with four players)

Second: 10 - Paul Coffey

[-D-RocK-]

You guys......seriously........there's no point comparing Crosby to Gretzky, Lemieux or whoever played back in the 80's & 90's. It was a completely different game back then.

 

Nobody will ever score 93 goals in today's tight checking, trap style defensive NHL game. Crosby is on his way to the Hall of Fame because he will be a great player. Just leave it at that, nobody is detracting the accomplishments of the Great One. He will always be the Great One regardless of who comes along.

 

Same goes for the Magnificent One..........