treeduck Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Who wins the Premier League this year?Probably one of the usual big boys, not Leicester. And even if Leicester do win it again they won't be 5000-1. And no more 5000-1 shots will win it, that was a one-off situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Who wins the Premier League this year? Oops. Wrong thread. Moved to the right one. Ask a fight question while you're here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Which was the better fight.. Barrera v Morales 1 or Ward V Gatti 1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Which was the better fight.. Barrera v Morales 1 or Ward V Gatti 1 ?I think I'd go with Barrera v Morales because it was at a higher level and it wasn't expected, a lot of people thought Barrera was damaged goods after the Junior Jones losses. And it was back and forth round after round, I remember Jim Lampley with his commentary..."here comes Barrera, here comes Morales..." Incidentally I liked Larry Merchant's introduction just before the first bell: "The only reason this fight hasn't been described as life and death is because it's more important than that..." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Which was the better fight.. Barrera v Morales 1 or Ward V Gatti 1 ?I think I'd go with Barrera v Morales because it was at a higher level and it wasn't expected, a lot of people thought Barrera was damaged goods after the Junior Jones losses. And it was back and forth round after round, I remember Jim Lampley with his commentary..."here comes Barrera, here comes Morales..." Incidentally I liked Larry Merchant's introduction just before the first bell: "The only reason this fight hasn't been described as life and death is because it's more important than that..." I would agree with that. It was a very exciting fight. I love how Barrera reacted when he was on the ropes.Instead of covering up, he traded blow for blow. Really intense right to the end. I thought Barrera just edged it. Ward v Gatty was a strange one. They must have been running on fumes from about round 6 because those punches couldn't have been very "hard". It became a bit ridiculous with the stupid amount of punishment they seemed to be taking, yet still standing. It was like a Rocky movie, and both fighters had zero defense. Great spectacle the first time you watch it, but after a couple of views........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Oh and Larry was para-phrasing Bill Shankly who said.. "Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Which was the better fight.. Barrera v Morales 1 or Ward V Gatti 1 ?I think I'd go with Barrera v Morales because it was at a higher level and it wasn't expected, a lot of people thought Barrera was damaged goods after the Junior Jones losses. And it was back and forth round after round, I remember Jim Lampley with his commentary..."here comes Barrera, here comes Morales..." Incidentally I liked Larry Merchant's introduction just before the first bell: "The only reason this fight hasn't been described as life and death is because it's more important than that..." I would agree with that. It was a very exciting fight. I love how Barrera reacted when he was on the ropes.Instead of covering up, he traded blow for blow. Really intense right to the end. I thought Barrera just edged it. Ward v Gatty was a strange one. They must have been running on fumes from about round 6 because those punches couldn't have been very "hard". It became a bit ridiculous with the stupid amount of punishment they seemed to be taking, yet still standing. It was like a Rocky movie, and both fighters had zero defense. Great spectacle the first time you watch it, but after a couple of views........I liked the Gatti-Ward trilogy but if you watch each fight carefully most of the best action occurs in certain rounds, like three really great rounds or four really great rounds and the rest were much quieter. Morales-Barrera had more intensity and more action in each round on average. If you compare the two trilogies then I'd go with Gatti-Ward, the second and third Morales-Barrera fights were not as good. The first one was the best of all six fights though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Agree again. It was such a hard fight to follow, the second was good only in flashes as faras I remember.They were understandably not keen on another mutual beating. I didn't see the third. I thought the decisions were the wrong way round. The first fight was actually the first time I had seen Barrera fight!!!! Watching him fight,I was amazed he had lost before. He reminded me a bit of Roberto Duran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Agree again. It was such a hard fight to follow, the second was good only in flashes as faras I remember.They were understandably not keen on another mutual beating. I didn't see the third. I thought the decisions were the wrong way round. The first fight was actually the first time I had seen Barrera fight!!!! Watching him fight,I was amazed he had lost before. He reminded me a bit of Roberto Duran.The third one was similar to the second and like you said both guys were smart and boxed more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Which was the better fight.. Barrera v Morales 1 or Ward V Gatti 1 ?I think I'd go with Barrera v Morales because it was at a higher level and it wasn't expected, a lot of people thought Barrera was damaged goods after the Junior Jones losses. And it was back and forth round after round, I remember Jim Lampley with his commentary..."here comes Barrera, here comes Morales..." Incidentally I liked Larry Merchant's introduction just before the first bell: "The only reason this fight hasn't been described as life and death is because it's more important than that..."Barrera got robbed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Which was the better fight.. Barrera v Morales 1 or Ward V Gatti 1 ?I think I'd go with Barrera v Morales because it was at a higher level and it wasn't expected, a lot of people thought Barrera was damaged goods after the Junior Jones losses. And it was back and forth round after round, I remember Jim Lampley with his commentary..."here comes Barrera, here comes Morales..." Incidentally I liked Larry Merchant's introduction just before the first bell: "The only reason this fight hasn't been described as life and death is because it's more important than that..."Barrera got robbed!Yeah I thought Barrera won the first fight, but then I thought Morales won the second one. Bad judges are blight on the boxing landscape. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Speaking of bad judges, some of the decisions given in Germany are truly shocking. I'm amazed outside boxers still risk fighting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Speaking of bad judges, some of the decisions given in Germany are truly shocking. I'm amazed outside boxers still risk fighting here.Money talks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsonmistymemory Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Is boxing a sport or a game? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Is boxing a sport or a game? :PIt's often referred to as the "fight game" but it ain't no game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallithrax Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Fury or KlitschkoBrooks or Golovkin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidcrystalcompass Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) Who wins in a bare knuckle fight with Mike Tyson in his prime? Tyson or.............. Mike Ditka? Edited September 7, 2016 by liquidcrystalcompass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Golovkin V Brooks could be a classic, but could any of them beat this guy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Fury or KlitschkoBrooks or GolovkinI think Fury will win again. In the last fight Fury with his size and movement showed how to beat Wlad and it was simple, take away his jab and it takes away everything else. Wlad cannot just let right hands and left hooks go without establishing his jab. If he's not throwing jabs then he's not punching. I see the same thing happening. When Brook first mentioned wanting to fight Golovkin back in March everyone scoffed and thought he was just talking shit because his bitter rival Amir Khan had signed to fight Canelo at 155. That's pretty much how I saw it too. As the weeks past though as the Khan fight got closer the more I began to like the fight. And then right after the Triple G vs Dominic Wade fight Golovkin and his promoter Tom Loeffler were asked about Brook's challenge. Triple G dismissed Brook as "too small" and called it "trash talk". Loeffler said he believed Brook was serious but didn't expect the fight to happen any time soon. After that we heard nothing and most people including me just assumed it was just talk and moved on. Then a couple of months later the fight was announced and I really liked the fight, unlike a lot of other people who see it as a mismatch. Right away, even though logic would suggest otherwise I could see Brook winning the fight. And I've not changed my mind in the 9 weeks since. I see Brook totally outboxing Triple G and knocking him out in 9 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Who wins in a bare knuckle fight with Mike Tyson in his prime? Tyson or.............. Mike Ditka?Ditka would be eating food through a straw to this day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeduck Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Golovkin V Brooks could be a classic, but could any of them beat this guy? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-_8HSSzWXQThe actor who played the Big Man was a little like that in real life. He assaulted a taxi driver in 2005, he dragged him out of the car and repeatedly punched him with the man needing hospital treatment afterwards. He also headbutted someone at Hamden Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghorn-leghorn Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 The Big Man can get a trifle wound up at the football This is the last video then back to the boxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 A little disappointing but not really surprising. I never thought Brook would handle the pressure and power that triple G brings. So ducky, GGG vs Jacobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony R Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I thought Brook did quite well but a good big one invariably beats a good smaller one. Brooks fight with Galovkin was more about raising his profile in the US than being a serious expectation of victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesweetscience Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 I thought Brook did quite well but a good big one invariably beats a good smaller one. Brooks fight with Galovkin was more about raising his profile in the US than being a serious expectation of victory.The argument was that brook is a natural middleweight who has to cut down to make welterweight. Tonight showed that he's not at the top fighting at middleweight. There could be some interesting matches for him at welterweight if he was looking to get name recognition. I don't think it was smart to come up to middleweight and try to topple the mountain that is GGG. My opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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